Disappointed in Halo's Customer "No" Service

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nyabzns

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If you expect Halo to be in the same class as your cable company , good luck. My cable company has turned off my cable by accident and took 3 days to schedule a technician to rectify the situation. Halo has always been top notch with customer service for me and I've been dealing with them since the first test batches of Freedom went out. I've seen people complain about not getting a response for customer service on a weekend and even during the hurricane that wreaked havoc on NJ. Sometimes a little patience will get you better results than pulling the trigger on a half cocked rant on a forum.
 

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Allow me to chime in. I am an active consumer and at the same time I manage the e-commerce site for my place of employment, so I’d like to think that I can see things from both sides’ POV.

Obviously, the quicker a customer inquiry is answered, the better it is. I especially like the convenience of Live Chat. While it is very easy for a customer to say “hire more people”, it is really not as easy as a customer may imagine, especially for a small company. Among other things, the cost needs to be justified and the new hires need to be trained. Having said that, a vendor needs to realize that CS is second to – sometimes as important as - product quality in determining the company’s success or failure. So, no matter how many legitimate reasons you have, you’d better get on with it ASAP.

I have learned in my career that 1 negative review is more than enough to wipe out 10 positive reviews! 1 dissatisfied customer will cost you 10 potential customers! So, a lot of times, you simply needs to appease a dissatisfied customer even though a) it’s not your fault, b) it’s going to cost you and c) you suspect that the customer is trying to take advantage of you. It’s painful for a small company, I know, but at the end of the day, it’s worth it. Trust me, the $10, $20 or so you may lose in an exchange/return not only is worth the good word-of-mouth that is going to help you – consider it the cost of an advertisement – but also save you from the bad word-of-mouth that is going to hurt you – also consider that it saves you the time from having to defend yourself in forum like this one and instead you can use the time to concentrate on growing the business. Trust me on this. There is already one person posts in this thread that s/he will not buy from Halo b/c of the review. God know how many more people who think the same but don't bother to post. And each one of these people has the potential to tell friends and families the same. It's exponential.

What my company does is to set a max. $ amount we can live with for “no argument” return or exchange. Both the $ amount and the policy is solely internal that are not revealed to the public. The $ amount is based on the cost to us, not the price to the customers (two different products may be priced the same at $10 but a high-margin item may cost the company only $2 whereas a low-margin item may cost the company $7). We keep a good record of return/exchange and we red flag any customer who consistently complaints and asks for return/exchange. For those few people we would deal with differently in other diplomatic ways.

Hope this helps.
 
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markk

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<snip> I have to return a couple defective parts and I have to pay shipping. Sure, shipping is only about $5, but $5 is $5.)

I'm having the same issue... I just received a dead G6 battery. Now I have to ship it back for them to look at before I get a replacement. I consider this poor customer service. I've had things like this happen on several different occasions with various vendors - e-cig and otherwise. So far, every vendor has sent a replacement along with either return postage or instructions to simply toss the defective item. That's good customer service.

I haven't decided for sure, but I'm leaning toward just tossing the battery. It's just doesn't seem worth my time and money to do otherwise. In the future I'll simply support vendors who put the customer first. There are certainly plenty of them out there.
 

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I don't know. While I do not disagree that it would be preferable as a customer if they would send me the new part first - then allow me to ship the defective part back, to me it isn't a deal-breaker unless this was a recurring issue. FWIW, the largest ecig company in the US has the same return policy...not defending it, just saying it is by no menas rare.

Of far greater concern to me is doing business with a company that rarely has defective products in the first place (and ecig parts including battereis and clearomizers are often lacking in quality control. Compared to other ecig vendors that I've dealt with, Halo ranks up amongst the best...I have yet to receive anything that wasn't packed with a clear intent to ensure proper delivery, but no one bats 1000...
 

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Hmmm... I've been vaping for a very long time and can't recall ever receiving an actual "defective" item from any other vendor. I've had items go missing or received them in the incorrect style/size/color, etc., but it was always handled promptly and at no cost to me. I guess it just annoys me to know that if they send me a defective item then I have to pay extra for the privilege.

BTW, if memory serves, I spent about $180 in the past month - none of it for my own use (gifts and giveaways for friends and family). From now on I'd rather see that money, as well as my recommendations about where to make future purchases, go to the vendors that sell the best products AND have the best customer service.
 

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Hmmm... I've been vaping for a very long time and can't recall ever receiving an actual "defective" item from any other vendor.

Huh? You just said in your previous post: "I'm having the same issue... I just received a dead G6 battery. Now I have to ship it back for them to look at before I get a replacement. I consider this poor customer service. I've had things like this happen on several different occasions with various vendors - e-cig and otherwise" Those statements would appear to be a mite conflicting...

No offense, but a lot of angst over one poor little G6 battery.

It should come as no surprise if you have been vaping awhile that there are any number of folks out there who will claim a defective or missing part of an order, when it is neither...so I have no beef with Halo's return policy...OUTSIDE of their not covering the postage differential...I do think that they should take another look at that.

I am very picky who gets my vaping dollars, and Halo is on my short list of trusted vendors. Their quality, order fulfillment, and customer service I find more than satisfactory, if not 100% perfect.
 

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If you read my posts more carefully you won't find a conflict. Just to clarify, I don't consider a defective item to be the same as missing or incorrect items.

No offense taken and no angst here. At first, I was more surprised than anything else that they'd want me to ship something back at my expense when it's a defective item, since my experiences with other vendors have been quite different. After I thought about it I, decided that it was just an annoyance so I've chosen to disregard it, learn my lesson, and move on.

Like you, I'm picky about where my vaping dollars go. That's why they'll always go to vendors that I feel put the customer first.
 
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Like you, I'm picky about where my vaping dollars go. That's why they'll always go to vendors that I feel put the customer first.

Yeah, and I didn't mean to come across quite so "heavy"... my apologies. :)

Not in your case, but I wager that a full 50% of "defective" parts turn out not to be defective at all, and are either from confused customers who are mistaken, or those that obviously trashed the product.

In fact, my good friend who is a new vaper, just got his Triton kit and called earlier this week to tell me that although being charged, it didn't work! Despite the fact that I had told him to do this, and he had the downloaded manual, it turned out that he simply did not click the battery "on!" (Glad that he called me first!)

Maybe my view point is shaped from my wife being an electronics store manager for over 20 years. I can't tell you the number of times she would get attempted returns for "defective" cell phones that once opened up had obviously been submerged in water, surprisingly not an uncommon occurence.

I am an honest (and knowledgeable) customer, as I am sure that you are, but I just can't fault a company having due diligence concerning product returns...I've seen too much customer ignorance, or downright malfescance to dun them for that.
 
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I myself have had no problems with Halo,all of my items ordered arrive in 3 days from NJ to Vegas.
Hopefully after some growing pains, they will implement some type of RMA return policy. There products are IMO top notch, and with the right direction i can see this company becoming a world class company.
With so many choices as consumers, companies must realize customer service should be there number one priority.
 

F Bailey

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If you read my posts more carefully you won't find a conflict. Just to clarify, I don't consider a defective item to be the same as missing or incorrect items.

No offense taken and no angst here. At first, I was more surprised than anything else that they'd want me to ship something back at my expense when it's a defective item, since my experiences with other vendors have been quite different. After I thought about it I, decided that it was just an annoyance so I've chosen to disregard it, learn my lesson, and move on.

Like you, I'm picky about where my vaping dollars go. That's why they'll always go to vendors that I feel put the customer first.



Uggh...I hear you Mark, After posting the above, I've had my first defective mini tank sent to me from Halo, First they were not even going to replace it,now they want me to ship a $4.00 defective part back on my dime to tell me if its defective or not. I'm done with Halo for now until they change there policies. There are plenty of other companies that would love to have my business and have world class customer service.
 

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This is one of my pet peeves when the vendor requires me to pay the postage to ship a defective item back to them. They send me a defective product, why should it costs me money to return it to them. So even if they send me a good replacement, I'll still lose money. Essentially, I pay for their mistake. I won't do do it. Usually I'll try to reason with the vendor first but if they insist, I'll just call my credit card company to dispute the charge. I tell the c.c. that the vendor send me a defective item and refuse to take it back without me paying for postage. The c.c. then call the vendor to ask them to pay for the return postage. If they still insist, the c.c will just reverse the charge and tell me to throw away the item. It works every time.
 

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Sorry, but I disagree with your statement that 28-hour CS response times are acceptable.

You're going to have a real bad time in the e-cig world if you're getting this upset over a day turnaround from an email you sent first thing Monday morning. And it's not a "28 hour" turnaround. If you want to put it in those terms, it's an 8-9 hour turnaround. Halo isn't open 24 hours/day.
 
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Coincidentally... I've tried to email customer support from the Halo website. When I choose 'General', there's no window that opens to allow me to write anything. And I did call the Halo phone number that was on my order this entire week, and there has been NO answer. 'Live Chat' seems to be always Offline as well.

Who do I contact? How do I contact them? When do I contact them?
 
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Coincidentally... I've tried to email customer support from the Halo website. When I choose 'General', there's no window that opens to allow me to write anything. And I did call the Halo phone number that was on my order this entire week, and there has been NO answer. 'Live Chat' seems to be always Offline as well.

Who do I contact? How do I contact them? When do I contact them?

You can contact customer service at this address. cs@halocigs.com
They're closed on weekends but they'll see it on Monday. My experience with customer service has been very positive.
 

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Do you have JavaScript disabled in your browser? If you do, you will get the pop-up after clicking the e-mail button, but not the form to ask them a question after clicking general.

After testing with Java on and off, I noticed that I had to be on the main page to get it to work. If you log into your account, and then actually go into your account... and then try to click on the link at the bottom, it didn't work. Don't know why. Probably Java issues.

Thanks ckmeyers.
 

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Halo's Customer "No" Service is something else

Get a bad battery (missing intake holes)
Call CS - CS not available
Leave Message

Get Email about a different order and they are OOS on some Tank Replacement Coils, they will send a different ohm unless I respond by a set amount of time. Now this is on an order that I had already received delivery confirmation on.

Get call from Shalor at CS she agrees the lack of intake holes is an issue and says she will email me RMA info

Get email back about Tank Replacement Coils order saying that the delivery confirmation is not correct, it has not shipped we still need an answer about the Ohms.

I return Shalor's email asking about cross shipping because I do not want to be short a battery for an extra week, and I have another order sitting ready to be shipped from halo. I'm told I can buy another battery and be manually charged on my CC and they will put that battery in the box with the Tank Replacement Coils. When they get the bad battery back they will refund the battery price to my CC. Don't like the idea of being charged for another battery, but whatever it gets the job done.

Except for one little problem, they manually charge my CC, they ship my Tank Replacement Coils, but they DO NOT put the battery in the box. Makes me wonder if that delivery confirmation was correct after all.

So now I'm back to calling Halo for help and guess what. CS not available.

You might have good juice but everything else has been a nightmare
 

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Hello,

Sorry to hear about the frustration and confusion, please PM me your email address and name used for your Halo account and I will see what i can find out.

Halo's Customer "No" Service is something else

Get a bad battery (missing intake holes)
Call CS - CS not available
Leave Message

Get Email about a different order and they are OOS on some Tank Replacement Coils, they will send a different ohm unless I respond by a set amount of time. Now this is on an order that I had already received delivery confirmation on.

Get call from Shalor at CS she agrees the lack of intake holes is an issue and says she will email me RMA info

Get email back about Tank Replacement Coils order saying that the delivery confirmation is not correct, it has not shipped we still need an answer about the Ohms.

I return Shalor's email asking about cross shipping because I do not want to be short a battery for an extra week, and I have another order sitting ready to be shipped from halo. I'm told I can buy another battery and be manually charged on my CC and they will put that battery in the box with the Tank Replacement Coils. When they get the bad battery back they will refund the battery price to my CC. Don't like the idea of being charged for another battery, but whatever it gets the job done.

Except for one little problem, they manually charge my CC, they ship my Tank Replacement Coils, but they DO NOT put the battery in the box. Makes me wonder if that delivery confirmation was correct after all.

So now I'm back to calling Halo for help and guess what. CS not available.

You might have good juice but everything else has been a nightmare
 
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