DIY VIDS for NO-LEAK-ATTY AND TANK MODS

[doots]

Got the Awseome today Jon.Works nice. thanks.

 

[WillyB]

Sorry for what you had to deal with on the previous posts Jon. A CE2 tank mod is nothing more than a bigger CE2 container. They have their place, but it's not fair to compare your design with that. Creating an unobtrusive catch cup around the atty is a great idea to solve the leaking issues. Along with your top dripping feeding system it is a drippers dream since many vapers have a tendency to over drip. Your finish product (heat shrinking and painting to a nice clean finish) is well worth the price your selling them IMO, and making tutorials just go to show what a stand up guy your are and that your helping out the vaping community by giving them options. I wish you all the best Jon

I agree, a nice approach for people who like to vape with real atties and not have to use syringes to re-load.

A cool and unique approach.

 

[John Phoenix]

I'm curious. You said it was Patent Pending. How much did this cost you? Did you submit a patent application?

Seems like to me they should approve it as long as there is no other patents with your designs. Did you patent All of your models? I think it's like a thousand bucks for each patent. Has any been approved yet? Do you have a patent number so I can look it up on the patent office website?

 

[venkman]

having the excess juice sitting in a copper tube is questionable. i've seen copper turn juice green. just throwin that out there.

 

[joncammarata]

I'm curious. You said it was Patent Pending. How much did this cost you? Did you submit a patent application?

Seems like to me they should approve it as long as there is no other patents with your designs. Did you patent All of your models? I think it's like a thousand bucks for each patent. Has any been approved yet? Do you have a patent number so I can look it up on the patent office website?

I do plan to try and patent all ideas as money is available. I use a poor mans patent for the time being. I send a certified USP package with all the information about the intellectual property to my self. That is sufficient to prove the property belongs to me if someone takes the ideas. A real patent would make it easier to sell the Property. By posting all my idea in he forum I further time stamp my ideas.

 

[joncammarata]

having the excess juice sitting in a copper tube is questionable. i've seen copper turn juice green. just throwin that out there.

Others have mentioned the same concerns. I have not had any issues. Juice is a pretty neutral substance. But, if someone still wants the mod with out the copper, I am sure there are plenty of other tubing material hat can be used.

 

[John Phoenix]

I do plan to try and patent all ideas as money is available. I use a poor mans patent for the time being. I send a certified USP package with all the information about the intellectual property to my self. That is sufficient to prove the property belongs to me if someone takes the ideas. A real patent would make it easier to sell the Property. By posting all my idea in he forum I further time stamp my ideas.

Oh No.. you fell for that urban myth.

I hate to tell you but that is not legal and binding. If I were you, I would save a copy of everything NOW, web pages, videos etc and then delete all pages ASAP. Anyone can steal your exact details and use it to make a product they can resell.

Here, let me Google that for you. Let me google that for you ( click here and it will search it for you) I'll just post a few below.

http://www.inventionpatent.net/patent/poor-man's-patent.html intellectual property law

A patent protects an invention, and gives an exclusive right to the benefits of an invention. It is possible for an individual inventor to file a patent themself. We do not recommend this, as a poorly drafted patent is basically worthless. If your invention is worth protecting, then it is a wise investment to spend several thousand dollars and use a patent law firm- you will have much stronger patent protection.

Additionally, common myths such as the "poor man's patent" and common law patent protection do not protect an invention. A "poor man's patent" is essentially an urban legand that claims by writing a description of your invention, and mailing it to yourself or someone else by mail or certified mail, will protect your invention. This is not true at all, and can in fact hurt your later patent rights.

Sending a a certified letter sent to yourself or someone else can legally only prove one thing- that you sent a letter to yourself or someone else. It does not prove what is inside the envelope itself, and will not stand up in any court or before the USPTO.

From another source:

http://patentpending.blogs.com/patent_pending_blog/2004/11/the_poor_mans_p.html

The urban myth is that the poor man's patent is to send yourself a sealed envelope with a description of your invention. If Mega Corporation then comes up with the same idea, or rips off your idea, you can prove that you invented it first. Because look, the envelope is sealed, and that proves its never been opened, right? And it has a postmark on it to prove when it was mailed, so that's a slam dunk. Right?

Wrong! What this myth is centered around is that in the U.S., unlike other countries, the first person who conceives of an invention gets the patent on it. However, that conception has to be followed by due diligence to reduce it to practice. Filing a patent application is considered reducing it to practice. So you can't conceive of an idea, then do nothing for 5 years, and still get the patent over a person who filed during the 5 years you were asleep. However, there are times when you acted with due diligence, and someone still filed a patent application one day before you did. Then you want to be able to prove when you conceived the invention. Then whoever has the best evidence of conception gets the patent, after a long and costly contest to prove first conception. It's far easier and cheaper to the be first to file, than to have to prove first conception.

And another:

Read this whole thread from the Intellectual property forum http://www.intelproplaw.com/ip_forum/index.php?topic=1097.0


You should have researched if that was legal or not before you did that. It's not legal anyplace on the planet. It's a myth. Research it.

I suggest you get those U.S. patent applications filed asap.

Best of Luck.

 

[daisyd]

This is good to know. I first heard of the poor man's patent in a book for apparel manufacturing and design. It was implied that that was a legitimate way to protect your designs. As it turns out, clothing designs aren't really patentable anyway...