DIY

[Obsync]

Hi I'm new to vaping! Just started a week ago and I've stopped smoking since!

I have certain questions regarding diy juice :

Glycerin from PH - has anyone tried it? I didn't know if it was reliable so I went ahead and got the Wilson one.. 5bucks for 50+ml

I was looking on the forum and see some of you guys talking about strawberry and rose flavor from PH. Do they contain PG? Because the labels only indicate natural flavoring.

Also, wanted to diy mango juice and I'm wondering if I can do 30% flavor(with pg) and 70% Vg. Or do I have to add the sweetener?
Do you guys have good mango flavoring to recommend?

Has anyone tried vg/pg from Singapore soap? Is their menthol crystal safe for consumption?

Hope you vets could provide me with more insight on diy! Just got banana flavoring from PH with a 30/70 mix to Vg!

Cheers and happy vaping

 

[WarA]

• Their glycerine(VG) is not thick enough consistency imo as compared to singapore soap VG. Not too sure about Wilson
• Typically you should avoid natural flavoring as those usually are not soluble. (Do a water test first)
• Generally the flavorings from PH should be used in the range of 10-15%. Should be sweet enough but if not try stevia or sucralose
  
• If you looked back a few page there's a thread of me saying banana flavoring from PH is not suitable for use

 

[Obsync]

Hey WarA, thanks for the prompt reply.

Guess I made a wasted batch then

So I should just get Vg and pg from Singapore soap then?
What about their menthol crystal?

So let's say the flavoring already has PG inside. Can I do a 30/70 mix or 15 flavoring 15 pg 70Vg?

I gotten peppermint and coconut from PH also leh can or not ah

 

[WarA]

you can do a 15/85 or even 20/80 but 30 i think too much.
just test the flavoring by dropping some into a cup of water see if they form droplets(oil!) or merge together(should be good to use).

the peach and lychee should be pretty good but i have yet started working with them yet. Dont get me wrong glycerin is still very usable as a VG. You can still do max VG provided the device you are going to use them on can keepup with the thick syrup. Menthol I'm not too sure will have to wait for the others to chime in

As to the last 2 flavoring you got high chances are they are not usable unless artificial flavoring

Check out the other subforum for more https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/forums/diy-e-liquid.38/

 

[sibehsteamsiah]

i tried TFA flavorings recently. 50v 40p and 10% flavoring. No taste .. jus a hint of the flavor. Wondering what is missing out.. sweeteners? I am using ripe strawberry and peach. 2 different batches

 

[WarA]

try bumping them up to 15-20%, if you followed recipe it should be correct. Also make sure everything is shook well and lastly what kind of measurement method?

 

[sibehsteamsiah]

i use a syringe and needle...

yup I just put another ML in and shook it. i leaving it overnight

 

[WarA]

Good luck! [emoji106] needle syringe is good way to go

Also shake that mf bottle hard, can't really emphasize this enough.

 

[Obsync]

You were rightright. Went home to check on my banana liquid and there were two layers. Had to pour away

Tried mixing my peppermint with water first in a syringe. Seems soluble for now... We'll see how tmr.

Btw any other flavourings to introduce from PH that's not oil based? It doesn't say much on the bottle. No other alternatives clementi PH the nearest in the West side to get supplies

 

[WarA]

i've only tried this few flavours, konyaku series should all be fine but they have a strange aftertaste (some likes it, some don't)

 

[plumeofred]

DIY need a lot of trial and error. Mistakes will be made. At the start will be expensive. Always try to follow recipe. I but my stuff from the local soap supplier online. So far I'm satisfied. Fast shipping and its free. And price is ok for the 1litre bottles of pg and vg.

Flavours I buy from TFA. It is ex but to me it is kinda noob safe cos got so many diff recipe out there that you can try.

If anyone here is using TFA try this mix.

10% peach Juicy
5% raspberry ripe
70vg/30pg

Can tweak to your taste buy TFA flavours I try not to go above 20% total flavourings. And I use the weighing method. No need to wash so many items. Do check out the tutorial available on YouTube.

 

[WarA]

Alternatively flavourart offers no tracking postage(cheap post! but bear risk of lost postage) and their flavourings are pretty good as well

 

[Obsync]

Ya it's kinda pricy Haha. Wanna start on flavors I can get locally as a benchmark of how well I'm doing before ordering online.

The flavors from TFA and flavor art do they have pg in them?

What do you mean by 70/30 10%peach and 5% rasp? Is it 70 vg 15pg 15 flavor?

Thank you guys so much for your input

 

[WarA]

Most if not all flavourings are in PG, if you're really .... about % you need to ask for their specific PG which typically is about 75% of flavouring(1:3 Aroma substanceG).

Pretty sure he meant just that, use ejuicemeup calculator or if you're on android e-juice lab does the .... calculation of 75% PG flavouring. I would recommend ordering flavourart with no tracking since its much cheaper than TFA and also their flavourings are specifically made for this (check out PBusardo visit to the factory!)
Alternatively you can find forum suppliers website who consolidates flavours and repack them to sell hence passing down the savings. These suppliers do however require forwarding.

 

[sibehsteamsiah]

May i ask which flavourart it is? UK, italy, aussie?

 

[WarA]

italy thats where I ordered mine, will check other site of theirs.
Aus ones lack quite some flavourings and does not ship here.
Can try ordering from UK as their tracked package seems reasonable at 19USD up to 24bottles of 10ml. However their per bottle price is 4.04USD compared to 2.801USD from main site (40bottles @ 10.083USD no tracking).

 

[plumeofred]

If you want some TFA from me just pm me. I don't mind sharing. Got a few I might not use if you're interested.

 

[Obsync]

Okay just gotten strawberry lychee and konnyaku green apple from PH.

I know strawberry doesn't have pg inside but for the other two if I do a 20/80 vg should be fine right?

 

[WarA]

should be fine just do water soluble test

 

[Conanfan]

If you want some TFA from me just pm me. I don't mind sharing. Got a few I might not use if you're interested.

Can I get some TFA too? Want to start to diy as the cost is really too high here