Do I need an ohm meter?

[Kaezziel]

No problem...
Check out this thread: Rayon Wick: Better Flow, Flavor, Saturation and Nic Hit
It is quite a long thread, but there is a LOT of good information on wicking and everyone over there is super friendly and helpful if you have any problems... if I ever meet JeremyR I'm going to owe him a lot of beers for the awesome suggestion/innovation to use rayon as a wick!

 

[mwjones]

I'm not an expert by any means, but if you're using wire of known resistance, a mandrel of known diameter, and are keeping your coils over 1ohm, you can be reasonable assured that your coils are pretty close to what you were looking for.

 

[twall]

I'm wondering this myself. Also wondering why we get stuff like "Wo-ho-ho-ho there, trigger. You can't go using the Ohm meter on a $40+ device. You need to go buy ANOTHER thing. Buy a multimeter at XXX, they are like $15."

REALLY?? You can't trust the built in Ohm meter in a device, but a $15 RadioShack Special is scientific, and good enough for all your building needs?

How much of a kickback does this forum get from multimeter sales? I've owned dozens of these crappy things. Most of the time, the probes fall apart right out of the box. And a loose connection on your probe (the wire or the tip, or where it plugs into the device) will mess with resistance readings.

The duality around here is astounding.

 

[Kaezziel]

I'm wondering this myself. Also wondering why we get stuff like "Wo-ho-ho-ho there, trigger. You can't go using the Ohm meter on a $40+ device. You need to go buy ANOTHER thing. Buy a multimeter at XXX, they are like $15."

REALLY?? You can't trust the built in Ohm meter in a device, but a $15 RadioShack Special is scientific, and good enough for all your building needs?

How much of a kickback does this forum get from multimeter sales? I've owned dozens of these crappy things. Most of the time, the probes fall apart right out of the box. And a loose connection on your probe (the wire or the tip, or where it plugs into the device) will mess with resistance readings.

The duality around here is astounding.

You'll never see me recommend a $15 RadioShack Special DMM... this is what I use to measure my crazy sub-ohm builds: Vici 4-Wire Milli-Ohm Meter

I don't trust anything that claims to measure to the hundredth of an ohm for < $20...
On the other hand, if you are not going sub-ohm, then the +/- $20 ohm reader/DMM or built in ohm reader in most regulated mods is accurate enough to detect shorts and keep you from firing an unsafe build...

 

[twall]

You'll never see me recommend a $15 RadioShack Special DMM... this is what I use to measure my crazy sub-ohm builds: Vici 4-Wire Milli-Ohm Meter

I don't trust anything that claims to measure to the hundredth of an ohm for < $20...
On the other hand, if you are not going sub-ohm, then the +/- $20 ohm reader/DMM or built in ohm reader in most regulated mods is accurate enough to detect shorts and keep you from firing an unsafe build...

There it is. Indeed my very thinking. I have no desire to sub-Ohm (at least not by much - not out of the .8 limit on my MVP) and feel what I have is fine as wine.

Another thing to consider: around here, it seems to be the consensus that you are only being dangerous when you attempt to build your own coil. Yet 7 year olds in China will give you consistently safe replacement screw ins for your clearo. Rubbish. In only 3.5 weeks, I would have blown a mech sky high 3 times, because my clearos dead shorted.

The duality I speak of is in regard to this very mindset. That somehow no name generic coils mass produced at a dizzying pace are somehow safer than what I wrap myself. That because it is "just a clearo" is is somehow benign. A short is a short. It doesn't matter WHO built it.

Honestly, I would think anything built by you is inherently MUCH safer and consistent than anything built by people who by nature couldn't care less as long as they get paid.

So, when going whole hog on the safety, I think it would be a good idea to point out all the dangers. If you're going to preach, preach consistently. If you are averse to any risk whatsoever, then this is not your bag. Then again, neither is smoking - another inconsistency.

 

[Kaezziel]

I completely see your point. I, for one, would never put a pre-built clearo/carto/whatever on my mech mod... I don't like crap vaping... mechs are not intended to run 2+ ohm coils anyway... the whole purpose of a mech is to get around the safety features of older vaping gear in an effort to get more power. Hence the lower resistance with a set voltage.

Then came along the regulated mods... this allows for a variation of said voltage in order to get more performance with higher resistance coils... safety features were also built in to protect the user from dangers, such as a faulty/shorted coil.

Much of what you are calling inconsistency is nothing more than calculating risk... a cheapo meter can detect a short just as well as a $400 Fluke... the Fluke is going to be more accurate on the resistance reading though... at 1.8 - 3 ohms, it's no big deal to use either meter... at .2 ohms, it becomes a very big deal and you need to know how to use your equipment as well as using accurate equipment...
I use this type of equipment for a living... I know what to use and how to use it... this is not the case for a lot of vapers. Those of us who have more experience just try to impart as much as we can to help keep everyone safe, but also try to understand budgets and necessity of equipment...

 

[twall]

When I finally get a Kayfun, I only plan to run it on regulated mods. By deciding to do that is far safer than trying to understand every aspect and possible formula in Ohm slaw. I will let the device tell me if my build is okay, and use its' built in meter to get the resistance I want. If it's too low, or too high, or whatever - it just won't fire.

I guess my points between this and posts in another thread are that chicken little BS irks the stuffing out of me. Not everyone who has a question about building a coil wants a mech and wants to sub-Ohm.

Preaching safety about that stuff and shuffling those posters off to blogs that give you a bunch of scientific and mathematical blah blah blah complete with disturbing pics is highly un needed. I just have an itch to build a coil on a $13 Kayfun clone and see what I get. If it's wrong, or it's shorted - the device won't fire it. THAT is a FAR better safety measure, then assuming I want to be l33t, and telling me (or anyone) that they better know their poo before ordering those cotton balls and Kanther wire.

 

[Kaezziel]

I get where you're coming from... I really do... but understand that we see a LOT of posts where people are using mechs... do NOT own any way to measure their resistance, and buy crappy trustfire batteries on top of everything else.... those people are the one's that will have mangled fingers and then we'll all get the blame for it... as well as the punishment of strong regulations

 

[twall]

I get where you're coming from... I really do... but understand that we see a LOT of posts where people are using mechs... do NOT own any way to measure their resistance, and buy crappy trustfire batteries on top of everything else.... those people are the one's that will have mangled fingers and then we'll all get the blame for it... as well as the punishment of strong regulations

I understand right back. But, I also know stupid is as stupid does, and no amount of warning will stop it.

I fully get it's CYA. I also know that makes it no less annoying.

 

[Kaezziel]

I understand right back. But, I also know stupid is as stupid does, and no amount of warning will stop it.

I fully get it's CYA. I also know that makes it no less annoying.

Agreed... ya can't fix stupid... but it's the 1 out of 100 that makes repeating it worth it for me... every now and then, someone will actually listen and wants to learn... those are the reason that I continue to try to help others... but I get it... trust me, it's annoying to have to try to talk some people down from the ledge for an hour or more only to have them go off and buy a clone mod that's based off of a poor design in the first place... (I'm looking at you Manhattan mod!)

 

[Mooselips84]

Get a multi meter from any hardware store.. $10-30, some guys use that little black box but I like the multi meter because I can check my batteries voltage as well. The multi meter is pretty simple to use as well! vape on!!

 

[Kaezziel]

Read the rest of the thread, Moose... question was answered and he's up and running now....

 

[Apoxing]

You don't "need" a ohm meter, but it's good to have

 

[Kaezziel]

Does anybody read past the first post anymore?

 

[edyle]

I understand right back. But, I also know stupid is as stupid does, and no amount of warning will stop it.

I fully get it's CYA. I also know that makes it no less annoying.

by the way, this is the New Members forum, so people do tend to respond to posts in the New Members forum differently from other forums.

 

[twall]

by the way, this is the New Members forum, so people do tend to respond to posts in the New Members forum differently from other forums.

Oh, I get ya. Added assumptions and patronizing condescension?

I'll keep that in mind, so as not to become "confused".

 

[rodeo302]

Oh, I get ya. Added assumptions and patronizing condescension?

I'll keep that in mind, so as not to become "confused".

The idea is to make sure everyone has an enjoyable vaping experience.