Hi guys, just wondering what are the pros and cons of smoking electronic cig. I heard that it may cause water retention in your lungs. Is that true?
Does smoking E-Cigg cause water retention in lungs?
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I'm not a doctor or a clinical researcher, but from the information I've read, it seems that vaping would, if anything, slightly dry out your lungs (but not as bad as smoking).
I normally stay pretty hydrated, I drink plenty of water during the day, so I don't have any ill effects from vaping.
As to the pros (again, this is my experience):
1. My smoker's cough was gone after about two weeks.
2. Within a month, I could take a deep breath without any pain or coughing
3. Before, if I had to speak for an extended period of time, I'd start coughing. That no longer happens.
4. My senses of smell and taste improved dramatically.
5. I don't find myself out of breath as often as I did before.
The cons?
I spend way too much money on shiny vape gear!
I normally stay pretty hydrated, I drink plenty of water during the day, so I don't have any ill effects from vaping.
As to the pros (again, this is my experience):
1. My smoker's cough was gone after about two weeks.
2. Within a month, I could take a deep breath without any pain or coughing
3. Before, if I had to speak for an extended period of time, I'd start coughing. That no longer happens.
4. My senses of smell and taste improved dramatically.
5. I don't find myself out of breath as often as I did before.
The cons?
I spend way too much money on shiny vape gear!
Thanks for Sharing! Well, I've been vapping for about 1 week. I did some research and they said that it may cause water retention. That's why I'm still kind or worried when I'm vapping (tho smokin an analog is worse).
YES! There is a ridiculous amount of misinformation out there about ecigs. Mostly by those that want to ban it. OP, be careful about the information you find in your research because a good bit of it is just lies. This community and casaa.org is your best bet for info.
I haven't heard anyone complaining about water retention in the lungs and I know I haven't experienced it. Vaping is known to dehydrate, so I imagine it would actually reduce the amount of water in your lungs like it dries out the rest of your body. Make sure to drink plenty of water.
^^ Exactly!
If it helps just saw my physician (and if you look through the forum you will see many an excited COPD post from ecig users with drastically improved lung scans) - physician was super excited - Best heart rate, blood pressure, blood oxygen (well all lab work was great as far as vitamins/minerals and the like) and she said the sound of my lungs last year and that day were DRASTICALLY improved.
So I am assuming she didnt hear any oceans in there!
Rickajho is right - who are "they" and "it"- most importantly WHO is behind the resource. Big Pharma, Big Tobacco etc will publish partial truths amongst other garbage from testing if it will make ecigs sound bad. Often times if you can find the FULL research story and see the whole paragraph they tacked a statement from - it changes the WHOLE ballgame. Good old "out of context" use for the purpose of a scare tactic.
All that being said - is it safe? Maybe??? IDK. Its a personal opinion and choice. I feel this is better than smoking for me. I feel like I have won the battle for the first time out of about 2980878457 times that I have "quit". I can BREATHE. And OMG I am like a bloodhound now. I smell everything 0.0
^^ Exactly!
If it helps just saw my physician (and if you look through the forum you will see many an excited COPD post from ecig users with drastically improved lung scans) - physician was super excited - Best heart rate, blood pressure, blood oxygen (well all lab work was great as far as vitamins/minerals and the like) and she said the sound of my lungs last year and that day were DRASTICALLY improved.
So I am assuming she didnt hear any oceans in there!
Rickajho is right - who are "they" and "it"- most importantly WHO is behind the resource. Big Pharma, Big Tobacco etc will publish partial truths amongst other garbage from testing if it will make ecigs sound bad. Often times if you can find the FULL research story and see the whole paragraph they tacked a statement from - it changes the WHOLE ballgame. Good old "out of context" use for the purpose of a scare tactic.
All that being said - is it safe? Maybe??? IDK. Its a personal opinion and choice. I feel this is better than smoking for me. I feel like I have won the battle for the first time out of about 2980878457 times that I have "quit". I can BREATHE. And OMG I am like a bloodhound now. I smell everything 0.0
WOW! AWESOME!!!! Couldn't have said it better myself CreepyLady! You ROCK GIRL!!!!
Here is a good discussion of this: http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/06/german-cancer-research-center-corrects.html
I just skimmed through the article again to refresh my memory. It seems that there was one case study where a user of electronic cigarettes was diagnosed with lipoid pneumonia. However, there were other factors that could have contributed to the pneumonia. They never proved that the electronic cigarette was the cause. A case study is just the study of one or a few cases, and generally these aren't taken as very strong scientific evidence. There are no control groups, just a write up of patient histories, symptoms, outcome, etc... In this particular case, there was nothing much to link the ecig to the pneumonia. If someone had a case study of 3-4 patients who used ecigs and developed pneumonia, that would be a little stronger. Also, a case study that wants to link a cause and effect is stronger if it proposes a plausible mechanism of action. This case study proposed it was oils in the liquid that caused the pneumonia, but ecig liquids do not usually contain oil, so the biological mechanism these researchers used to link the two events is implausible.
I just skimmed through the article again to refresh my memory. It seems that there was one case study where a user of electronic cigarettes was diagnosed with lipoid pneumonia. However, there were other factors that could have contributed to the pneumonia. They never proved that the electronic cigarette was the cause. A case study is just the study of one or a few cases, and generally these aren't taken as very strong scientific evidence. There are no control groups, just a write up of patient histories, symptoms, outcome, etc... In this particular case, there was nothing much to link the ecig to the pneumonia. If someone had a case study of 3-4 patients who used ecigs and developed pneumonia, that would be a little stronger. Also, a case study that wants to link a cause and effect is stronger if it proposes a plausible mechanism of action. This case study proposed it was oils in the liquid that caused the pneumonia, but ecig liquids do not usually contain oil, so the biological mechanism these researchers used to link the two events is implausible.
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The sense of smell improvement part has been a very noticable thing on my part, unfortunately, the aromas that were unpleasent before have taken on a whole new level of gross.
I read that a while back and thought then, as I do now, that it's just another pitiful attempt to discredit ecigs. It kind of makes one wonder why they're trying so hard?
i'm willing to bet the patients reffered too had a lot of other things going on.
there general health was probably pretty bad when they switched to ecigs.
what was there usage of alchohol or other drugs?
cogestive heart failure?water retention?i've been there and done that.
regards
mike
there general health was probably pretty bad when they switched to ecigs.
what was there usage of alchohol or other drugs?
cogestive heart failure?water retention?i've been there and done that.
regards
mike
Never heard water retention being a problem. The only problem I can report is I went from borderline needing ...... to fearing my wife will have me neutered.......;-)
As we all know, we did a lot of damage we did to our lungs smoking cigarettes. There are many side affects from quitting smoking in addition to weight gain, and everyone is different. There are tons of threads on these forums where members discuss the side affects they have experienced.
This is my second time switching from cigarettes to vaping. I have been smoking for more years that I care to admit and had developed the smokers cough. I am 49 and healthy, but I knew that if I continued smoking it would only be a matter of time.............
I successfully quit smoking a few years ago, but it only lasted a few months. I still don't know why I smoked that first cigarette again.
I switched back to vaping Oct 31. In these few short weeks my cough has almost disappeared, and I am breathing better. I would occasionally get this heavy feeling in my chest which I haven't experienced since switching to vaping. Right now there are no long term studies about the affects of vaping, but I can only tell you how much better I am feeling.
Lately there seems to be numerous scare articles regarding vaping in the media. Some of them do not appear to be based on facts, but there is some good information on the safety or lack of safety regarding vaping.
Electronic cigarettes as a harm reduction strategy for tobacco control: A step forward or a repeat of past mistakes? http://www.palgrave-journals.com/jphp/journal/v32/n1/full/jphp201041a.html
CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association http://casaa.org
This is my second time switching from cigarettes to vaping. I have been smoking for more years that I care to admit and had developed the smokers cough. I am 49 and healthy, but I knew that if I continued smoking it would only be a matter of time.............
I successfully quit smoking a few years ago, but it only lasted a few months. I still don't know why I smoked that first cigarette again.
I switched back to vaping Oct 31. In these few short weeks my cough has almost disappeared, and I am breathing better. I would occasionally get this heavy feeling in my chest which I haven't experienced since switching to vaping. Right now there are no long term studies about the affects of vaping, but I can only tell you how much better I am feeling.
Lately there seems to be numerous scare articles regarding vaping in the media. Some of them do not appear to be based on facts, but there is some good information on the safety or lack of safety regarding vaping.
Electronic cigarettes as a harm reduction strategy for tobacco control: A step forward or a repeat of past mistakes? http://www.palgrave-journals.com/jphp/journal/v32/n1/full/jphp201041a.html
CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association http://casaa.org
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The amount of bad info out there just boggles my mind. I was talking to an acquaintance the other day about the benefits of vaping (hoping to convert him from analogs), and he told me he had read that it causes water vapor to accumulate in your lungs, and that fungus or mold could start growing in there! I tried to tell him how crazy that is, but that ridiculous piece of misinformation has pretty much poisoned him against the idea of vaping.
On the other hand, i'm a little encouraged by the fact that our opponents have to resort to scare tactics, speculation, and outright lies because they don't have any hard science on their side.
On the other hand, i'm a little encouraged by the fact that our opponents have to resort to scare tactics, speculation, and outright lies because they don't have any hard science on their side.
Bodybuilders/people that work out actually eat vegetable glycerine to help their muscles retain water
Some body builders actually just eat a table spoon or two before a show to get that extra pump/vascularity
There are some supplements that actually have vegetable glycerine in it.
Some body builders actually just eat a table spoon or two before a show to get that extra pump/vascularity
There are some supplements that actually have vegetable glycerine in it.
e-cigarettes are considered harm reduction, not harm prevention. The reality is that e-cigarettes haven't been around long enough to know what the long term effects will be. There has been some concern regarding diacetlys in e-liquids. I also only buy e-liquids from reputable vendors.
A new “study” on chemical analysis of e-cigarette: nothing new but huge negative publicity and intimidation, http://www.ecigarette-research.com/...09-50-07/126-a-new-study-on-chemical-analysis.
A new “study” on chemical analysis of e-cigarette: nothing new but huge negative publicity and intimidation, http://www.ecigarette-research.com/...09-50-07/126-a-new-study-on-chemical-analysis.
If your e-cig produces smoke, and you inhale that smoke, it could cause lung problems. I'll pass on that experiment.
Orally consuming VG and vaping it are not the same thing. I wouldn't vape olive oil. The bottom line is that e-cigarettes have not been around long enough for any long term studies to exist.
There was a recent media scare regarding the safely to vaping cinnamon flavors, but it appears that the studies were flawed.
Cinnamon flavours in e-cigarettes: how inappropriate research can misinform the public and the (amateur) professionals, Cinnamon flavours in e-cigarettes: how inappropriate research can misinform the public and the (amateur) professionals.
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