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TonyTT

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For me and possibly a few more out there this is exactly where I want to get to and beyond. There are many that may continue because it has become a hobby or they enjoy it. I'm not going to put a time frame on it. But, maybe someday I'll lay the PV down just as I did cigarettes.

I think my favorite part about vaping, is the lack of cues...you have to learn to be in tune to when you actually physically want nic. It's internal rather than external. Once you get to recognize your internal cues, you realize how much smoking had to do with the environment. Everything would set off the "I need a smoke" reflex. With vaping, I feel much less like my life is ruled by craving....
 

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I often don't even start vaping until late afternoon, even though my Chucks are sitting right in front of me on my desk.
I could probably quit using them if I wanted to, but I most definitely don't want to.

When I was smoking, you would have to shoot me in the head to keep me from having that first morning smoke.
And it was highly advised not to talk to me until I had finished it.
:)
 

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Hi! Was wondering where you been!

Interesting. What do you mean by all your liquids seem "too strong" now? Is it the flavor? Or do you feel like you are getting too much nic out of them? Or is the experience, in general, just too much?

I wonder if the length of time being a smoker and how bad the habit was has anything to do with this? I can't recall how much you were smoking. For me, as a 30 year 1.5 PAD ex-smoker, at 10 months of vaping my vaping habit is pretty steady right now. If anything, in the last month or so I have found myself vaping more - been having more "wanna cigarette" cravings lately and I don't know why. But like you, I can't fathom ever smoking another one again - they are just too much of a turn off. Can't stand the smell of second hand smoke now.
 

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I feel the same way.
Back when i was smoking I always had to make sure the cigs and lighter was with me at all times.
Now I rarely bring the pv with me when i know i'm gonna be out a couiple of hours.
I've even gone to work a few days without bothering to take it with me.
I mostly use it in the evening in front of the tv or computer..I do find myself chainvaping when browsing this forum though..lol
I could probably cut down and just use it when im out drinking,but I guess its grown into a hobby.. :)
 

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I think my favorite part about vaping, is the lack of cues...you have to learn to be in tune to when you actually physically want nic. It's internal rather than external. Once you get to recognize your internal cues, you realize how much smoking had to do with the environment. Everything would set off the "I need a smoke" reflex. With vaping, I feel much less like my life is ruled by craving....

So true, and I think that is the thing that cig smokers miss the most, its not so much the nicotine, it's that exciting "I need a smoke" reflex. Since I have quit smoking and started vaping, I no longer need to go outside to do it, and since I am not restricted by a physical limitation get my nicotine, I no longer get those urges. If I go outside now and vape, it seems utterly pointless, because I don't actually need to go out there to do it. I do really miss going outside and puffing away, especially during the rain or when the weather was strange. Now I feel like a recluse as I never have to leave the safety of my computer chair or bed in order to vape. And it makes it a lot less interesting.

Part of the whole smoking thing was the 'taboo' side of it, and being limited to where and how you could smoke. If you knew you couldn't smoke somewhere or didn't want to bother others with your smoking, you would be anxious to have a smoke once you were able and you really looked forward to it, I always got a bit of the 'butterflies in stomach' feeling, especially when smoking in public. But this made it interesting and was a HUGE reason I got so hooked on them. I got so programmed into smoking at certain times or in certain areas, like when I drove somewhere, that was always a nice opportunity for me to have a smoke, and I always looked forward to it. Not so much now, as it no longer is a concern as I can just puff away nearly anywhere I want and I don't have that 'restricted' feeling I did with analogs.

Vaping is just so different and lacks that "I can't wait to vape" moments that analogs always gave us. With all the complexity and 'upkeep' in order to vape (charging batteries, keeping cartos/carts wet, constant dripping, figuring out the best way to carry a huge PV in your pocket while you are at work or out and about etc etc), it starts to become more of a chore than fun. Which is likely why people get so obsessed with having so many different pieces of equipment and are always buying new stuff, as that is one way to keep up the excitement that was so easily and effortlessly obtained with analogs.

It is mind boggling how effective cigarettes are at hooking you in, and I think the nicotine part of it is only the tip of the iceberg of why it is so addicting. Funny thing is, the more laws that get passed to 'ban' cigarettes, the more effective they become in getting somebody addicted (as for the reason mentioned above, being more limited/restricted heightens its grab on you because it becomes even more taboo).

There is a lot to be said about the inherent human nature of wanting what you can't have. If I know I can vape practically any time or anywhere I want, a large part of it's attraction goes away and I start to think "Why bother".
 
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So true, and I think that is the thing that cig smokers miss the most, its not so much the nicotine, it's that exciting "I need a smoke" reflex. Since I have quit smoking and started vaping, I no longer need to go outside to do it, and since I am not restricted by a physical limitation get my nicotine, I no longer get those urges. If I go outside now and vape, it seems utterly pointless, because I don't actually need to go out there to do it. I do really miss going outside and puffing away, especially during the rain or when the weather was strange. Now I feel like a recluse as I never have to leave the safety of my computer chair or bed in order to vape. And it makes it a lot less interesting.

Part of the whole smoking thing was the 'taboo' side of it, and being limited to where and how you could smoke. If you knew you couldn't smoke somewhere or didn't want to bother others with your smoking, you would be anxious to have a smoke once you were able and you really looked forward to it, I always got a bit of the 'butterflies in stomach' feeling, especially when smoking in public. But this made it interesting and was a HUGE reason I got so hooked on them. I got so programmed into smoking at certain times or in certain areas, like when I drove somewhere, that was always a nice opportunity for me to have a smoke, and I always looked forward to it. Not so much now, as it no longer is a concern as I can just puff away nearly anywhere I want and I don't have that 'restricted' feeling I did with analogs.

Vaping is just so different and lacks that "I can't wait to vape" moments that analogs always gave us. With all the complexity and 'upkeep' in order to vape (charging batteries, keeping cartos/carts wet, constant dripping, figuring out the best way to carry a huge PV in your pocket while you are at work or out and about etc etc), it starts to become more of a chore than fun. Which is likely why people get so obsessed with having so many different pieces of equipment and are always buying new stuff, as that is one way to keep up the excitement that was so easily and effortlessly obtained with analogs.

It is mind boggling how effective cigarettes are at hooking you in, and I think the nicotine part of it is only the tip of the iceberg of why it is so addicting. Funny thing is, the more laws that get passed to 'ban' cigarettes, the more effective they become in getting somebody addicted (as for the reason mentioned above, being more limited/restricted heightens its grab on you because it becomes even more taboo).

There is a lot to be said about the inherent human nature of wanting what you can't have. If I know I can vape practically any time or anywhere I want, a large part of it's attraction goes away and I start to think "Why bother".

I feel like you've also just shed light on the mystery of women dating bad boys, and marrying nice guys...
 

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Hi! Was wondering where you been!

Interesting. What do you mean by all your liquids seem "too strong" now? Is it the flavor? Or do you feel like you are getting too much nic out of them? Or is the experience, in general, just too much?

I wonder if the length of time being a smoker and how bad the habit was has anything to do with this? I can't recall how much you were smoking. For me, as a 30 year 1.5 PAD ex-smoker, at 10 months of vaping my vaping habit is pretty steady right now. If anything, in the last month or so I have found myself vaping more - been having more "wanna cigarette" cravings lately and I don't know why. But like you, I can't fathom ever smoking another one again - they are just too much of a turn off. Can't stand the smell of second hand smoke now.

Hi! :D

The too strong thing is the nic strength. I can feel it like a spiciness or burn in my throat. TH... way too much now. And honestly I don't feel motivated enough to even order a very low or no nic strength. I am more like... "meh...." I can take it or leave it. My DH is the same way too. I just don't have a craving at all. I guess that is a good thing.

I smoked for about 17 years. And was a light to heavy smoker... depending. I started out really heavy then backed off before I quite I was between .5 to 2 pad averaging about 1 pad. I honestly do not want ANYTHING to do with cigs. If I even smell one I have to go as far from it as I can, because it makes me nauseated. Sometimes If I smell it I start to choke and cough. I don't mean to. I know smoker think its rude. It just happens.
 

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I am just way more obsessed about health and fitness now. Now that I can exercise! Thank you E-cig for everything... it was nice to have you. I will visit on occasion I promise. lol Ah my e-cig... it's going to be kinda lonely.

I'm a cyclist, I have recently quit smoking. It's amazing how, after two months, I got my breath back. I think if I quit vaping now, the health benefits would be so miniscule that it wouldn't be worth it. don't forget about your dopamine that comes from doing things you like to do. I have friends who are bike messengers, they cycle at least 40 hours, 150 miles a week. Most of them smoke rolling tobacco and drink heavily on the weekends and they are in great shape. Smoking was terrible for me as a cyclist though.
 

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Lots of insight in there. I find that, if I am in a situation where I can vape, I do. If a situation simply will not allow vaping, obviously I don't do it, but I also don't even crave it. I don't need it or even want it at all in those situations. It's actually liberating. Slave to vaping. Great.

So true, and I think that is the thing that cig smokers miss the most, its not so much the nicotine, it's that exciting "I need a smoke" reflex. Since I have quit smoking and started vaping, I no longer need to go outside to do it, and since I am not restricted by a physical limitation get my nicotine, I no longer get those urges. If I go outside now and vape, it seems utterly pointless, because I don't actually need to go out there to do it. I do really miss going outside and puffing away, especially during the rain or when the weather was strange. Now I feel like a recluse as I never have to leave the safety of my computer chair or bed in order to vape. And it makes it a lot less interesting.

Part of the whole smoking thing was the 'taboo' side of it, and being limited to where and how you could smoke. If you knew you couldn't smoke somewhere or didn't want to bother others with your smoking, you would be anxious to have a smoke once you were able and you really looked forward to it, I always got a bit of the 'butterflies in stomach' feeling, especially when smoking in public. But this made it interesting and was a HUGE reason I got so hooked on them. I got so programmed into smoking at certain times or in certain areas, like when I drove somewhere, that was always a nice opportunity for me to have a smoke, and I always looked forward to it. Not so much now, as it no longer is a concern as I can just puff away nearly anywhere I want and I don't have that 'restricted' feeling I did with analogs.

Vaping is just so different and lacks that "I can't wait to vape" moments that analogs always gave us. With all the complexity and 'upkeep' in order to vape (charging batteries, keeping cartos/carts wet, constant dripping, figuring out the best way to carry a huge PV in your pocket while you are at work or out and about etc etc), it starts to become more of a chore than fun. Which is likely why people get so obsessed with having so many different pieces of equipment and are always buying new stuff, as that is one way to keep up the excitement that was so easily and effortlessly obtained with analogs.

It is mind boggling how effective cigarettes are at hooking you in, and I think the nicotine part of it is only the tip of the iceberg of why it is so addicting. Funny thing is, the more laws that get passed to 'ban' cigarettes, the more effective they become in getting somebody addicted (as for the reason mentioned above, being more limited/restricted heightens its grab on you because it becomes even more taboo).

There is a lot to be said about the inherent human nature of wanting what you can't have. If I know I can vape practically any time or anywhere I want, a large part of it's attraction goes away and I start to think "Why bother".
 

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Interesting discussion. Personally, I smoked in the house, so there was no change in location-based urges. I often didn't bring cigarettes with me when I left the house, but smoked like a chimney in private. Now I keep at least a 510-sized PV on me anywhere I go, and honestly hope that someone will ask what I'm doing, as I've become very evangelical about vaping.

But I do notice that my cravings are significantly reduced from where they were when I *needed* to vape to keep me away from a cigarette. Doesn't mean I'll quit any time soon, though. It's both a lifestyle choice and rapidly becoming my livelihood at this point, so I figure I'll stick with it for years.
 

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I think that's really neat that you and your other half both ended up in the same place at the same time.

This is really great that things worked for you this fast and so well. Still, not one who believes in absolutes, don't forget that you now have options! You know what you can do, rather than smoking a cigarette should you ever get the urge. Keeping the e-cigs on hand, and maybe picking up some 0 mg liquid, is probably a good idea. At least for a while

And don't forget to refer any desperate smoker's you will still run across to ecf!

Gonna miss ya Ms. poo! :cry: scnhiffle Congrats!

Rick
 
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