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Though I may be wrong, I get the impression that you might be confused as to what a "doubler" really is. I've seen many others similarly confused, because "doubler" is a bit ambiguous and not a very good name to call it, IMO. As others have said, a doubler is just a zero-nicotine eliquid. But it is NOT a flavor doubler, it has no more flavor in it than any other eliquid. It is used to cut down the nicotine strength of the same flavor eliquid. For example, you have a 30ml of 36mg of Tobacco flavored eliquid and you want 18mg nicotine strength. You combine the 30ml of the 36mg Tobacco with 30ml of the Tobacco doubler, and you get 60ml of 18mg nicotine strength eliquid without losing any flavor. What gets "doubled" is the volume, not the flavor.

Without a doubler, if you had 36mg Tobacco and wanted to reduce it to 18mg, the only way you could do it would be to add an equal amount of plain PG or VG, but that would also dilute the flavor. The existence of doubler allows you to do it without losing flavor.

Sorry if you knew this already, but I'll bet at least one person reading this thought that doubler had "double" the flavor of regular eliquid.
 
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yes that is true... and I guess some people take knowledge/experience for granted... and if one is new to vaping may be taking doubler in it's common usage... BUT if one knows or has DIY juice before.. or cut strength down from juice that they already have KNOW that cutting it with straight VG and/or PG will cut the flavor down considerably and TV's "doubler" in the traditional cutting sense would be a true statement.... because you are not only increasing the volume, but maintaining the flavor as well...



well... half a dozen to one , six to another :D

That was an unseen needed post for this thread by the way

EDIT: after rereading my post maybe the proper terminology would be "Maintainers" rather than "Doublers" :D


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That's the thing though, another reason the name "doubler" is not a good one (besides being ambiguous as to what's getting doubled) is that depending on how you use it, it could also be called a "tripler" or "quadrupler" etc. In that case, nothing is getting doubled, and the flavor is only being maintained.

If I sold such a thing, I would call it a "nic-reducer" or some such to prevent confusion.

ETA: Yeah, or how about a "nic-reducing flavor saver"
 
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Volt & Duck, thanks, I was one of the ones who did not know until you clarified the difference on the two ways in which "Doublers" are used, thats why I started the thread. I wanted extra flavor without cutting the nic content too much. Now I am more educated because you both explained it so I could understand better what I was doing and searching for. Thanks again, it was very handy info!!;)
 

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Volt & Duck, thanks, I was one of the ones who did not know until you clarified the difference on the two ways in which "Doublers" are used, thats why I started the thread. I wanted extra flavor without cutting the nic content too much. Now I am more educated because you both explained it so I could understand better what I was doing and searching for. Thanks again, it was very handy info!!;)

Glad we could help, and thanks for validating my point!

Your best bet for boosting flavors without decreasing nic too much is with a similar FlavourArt condensed flavor. It won't be exactly the same flavor as your existing eliquid, but it may turn out even better with the blend.

ETA: It was you asking for smaller sizes that clued me into the fact that you might not know what they're supposed to be used for.
 
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ETA: Yeah, or how about a "nic-reducing flavor saver"
but then I would be confused with your meaning of "flavor saver".. I mean who would want a mustache in their juice :p

Volt & Duck, thanks, I was one of the ones who did not know until you clarified the difference on the two ways in which "Doublers" are used, thats why I started the thread. I wanted extra flavor without cutting the nic content too much. Now I am more educated because you both explained it so I could understand better what I was doing and searching for. Thanks again, it was very handy info!!;)

Glad you got the info you needed.. and I am ashamed that I didn't pick up on it sooner like Volt did

Glad we could help, and thanks for validating my point!

Your best bet for boosting flavors without decreasing nic too much is with a similar FlavourArt condensed flavor. It won't be exactly the same flavor as your existing eliquid, but it may turn out even better with the blend.

ETA: It was you asking for smaller sizes that clued me into the fact that you might not know what they're supposed to be used for.

always nice to be validated :D..... +1 on the catch
 

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Glad we could help, and thanks for validating my point!

Your best bet for boosting flavors without decreasing nic too much is with a similar FlavourArt condensed flavor. It won't be exactly the same flavor as your existing eliquid, but it may turn out even better with the blend.

ETA: It was you asking for smaller sizes that clued me into the fact that you might not know what they're supposed to be used for.

Sounds good, because I bet this is also more cost effective as well.
Customize it to your own strength of the flavor itself. :cool:
 

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Not to add to the confusion ~ which ya'all seem to have straightened out very nicely ~ But doesn't the name Doubler refer to the fact that you are doubling the amount of liquid?

Then again, depending on the nic level you want, I guess they could also be called Triplers or Quads.

Oh well...: )
 

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JMA, Quadeler, now I like that! Well, might be a bit comfusing. Comfusing = even more confused. :~) What you are saying is right though.

Donley, I like your small bottles of flavor idea! Folks can kik up their flavor a notch or two if they want. With the bottles you can test it out in your carts first... instead of messing up a larger bottle of juice.

Geoff has a good marketing idea. Who doesn't want to double their juice at a reduced cost. Just flavored pg/vg mixes that you can add to your high nic juices. Then the nic strength gets cut in half so you need nic that is twice as strong as what you want to end up with. Confused??? Figure this out and you can save some $$$. Many customers have figured it out.

Now to figure out how to make pocket aces hold up on tha river at Texas Holdem. *&^%#@
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That's the thing though, another reason the name "doubler" is not a good one (besides being ambiguous as to what's getting doubled) is that depending on how you use it, it could also be called a "tripler" or "quadrupler" etc. In that case, nothing is getting doubled, and the flavor is only being maintained.

If I sold such a thing, I would call it a "nic-reducer" or some such to prevent confusion.

ETA: Yeah, or how about a "nic-reducing flavor saver"
instead of doubler, what about cutter
 
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