Dripping vs Cartomizers vs Carts

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the_antisheep

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Well, I have been at this for some time now (a few months maybe?) and have tried every method from Cartomizers to Carts to Dripping and have come up with some solid research on these...

1. Carts. I started out with these and they seemed to leak and I constantly ended up filling them up, and I am convinced that a great deal of the juice just goes to waste as the snow cone thing always needs to be refilled. Juice in the mouth was common, and these will get gunked up over time and make it hard (if not impossible) to "ungunk."

2. Cartomizers. I *thought* these were the greatest things in the world, but juice in the mouth was also common as you have to be scientific in the proportions of juice you use to fill. These also have a short life span (meaning they get gunked up and are hard to pull vapor out of after a while). I am not sure if there is an "easy" method to fixing this, but I haven't found one yet (tried boiling, blowing through it, etc). Don't even think about not completely vaping the cart as the left over crap will solidify and hasten the death of your cartomizer.

3. Dripping. This is where I ended up. I don't have a "drip tip" or any kind of special equipment. When I bought my ego, it came with some carts that didn't have any filling in them. I found this odd, but I now find this invaluable for dripping. Basically, I take the atty, drip 4 drips into it (or until there's a puddle around the heating element), put the empty cart back on, and vape. You *can* get juice in the mouth, but I find this only happens when it's dark and you're not paying attention and flood the atty with a stupid amount of juice. It should be noted that this method seems to maximize the flavor from your juices as well. I have also found that the atty I am using has seemed to last forever (I haven't had to change the one I'm using since I started this method)... So there's got to be a downside, right? Yep... You go through a ton of juice in short periods of time, and the juice will only last about 30 mins max.

I'm no expert, and I only have one vapor device, so I can't be considered a vapophile, but I've been through the ringer trying to find the right vaping method, so maybe this will help someone else.
 

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i dunno - i've developed a ZFM for my 901 ( made 4 of them actually) and they do me well i go through 4 carts/day so it works 4 carts 4 flavors 2 strengths. i get the no-filler taste, haven't had any juice in my mouth had a few leaks b4 i got the plugs right but now don't seem to have any problems except when i take a dry vape (because the cart is empty)
 

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i dunno - i've developed a ZFM for my 901 ( made 4 of them actually) and they do me well i go through 4 carts/day so it works 4 carts 4 flavors 2 strengths. i get the no-filler taste, haven't had any juice in my mouth had a few leaks b4 i got the plugs right but now don't seem to have any problems except when i take a dry vape (because the cart is empty)

Carts or cartomizers? Sorry, but the terminology is so vague... I wouldn't figure carts would last you the whole day?
 
the_anitsheep, you have saved like millions I think your counter is off or analongs are wayyyy more there than they are here! LOL

When you say you are dripping do you mean on exposed atty? I have like a m901 or something and the atty is exposed. It seems when it gets too much juice it stops working until it airs out and I blow it out. Can you drip on this type of atty?
 

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Well, I have been at this for some time now (a few months maybe?) and have tried every method from Cartomizers to Carts to Dripping and have come up with some solid research on these...

1. Carts. I started out with these and they seemed to leak and I constantly ended up filling them up, and I am convinced that a great deal of the juice just goes to waste as the snow cone thing always needs to be refilled. Juice in the mouth was common, and these will get gunked up over time and make it hard (if not impossible) to "ungunk."
Most cart filler mods need to be tweaked to user spec (more than once) B4 getting good use from them, just an observation. BTW been 4 months on the one I have now, I change the filler monthly-- don't think a carto can do that.
2. Cartomizers. I *thought* these were the greatest things in the world, but juice in the mouth was also common as you have to be scientific in the proportions of juice you use to fill. These also have a short life span (meaning they get gunked up and are hard to pull vapor out of after a while). I am not sure if there is an "easy" method to fixing this, but I haven't found one yet (tried boiling, blowing through it, etc). Don't even think about not completely vaping the cart as the left over crap will solidify and hasten the death of your cartomizer.
Cartos work good for the gas-n-go vapehedz
3. Dripping. This is where I ended up. I don't have a "drip tip" or any kind of special equipment. When I bought my ego, it came with some carts that didn't have any filling in them. I found this odd, but I now find this invaluable for dripping. Basically, I take the atty, drip 4 drips into it (or until there's a puddle around the heating element), put the empty cart back on, and vape. You *can* get juice in the mouth, but I find this only happens when it's dark and you're not paying attention and flood the atty with a stupid amount of juice. It should be noted that this method seems to maximize the flavor from your juices as well. I have also found that the atty I am using has seemed to last forever (I haven't had to change the one I'm using since I started this method)... So there's got to be a downside, right? Yep... You go through a ton of juice in short periods of time, and the juice will only last about 30 mins max. I dripp when tasting new flavs.

The main thing is just finding what worx 4U, keep @ it!
 

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Carts or cartomizers? Sorry, but the terminology is so vague... I wouldn't figure carts would last you the whole day?
i mean cartridges not cartomizers (the way i understand it it's cart=cartridge, carto=cartomizer)
i don't like cartomizers because i prefer flat tips.

as for y i go through 4 a day:

the thing never leaves my side and i'm using it constantly - i bought 2 batteries but i'm going through 3 charges/day and god help me when i'm fishing - i go through both batteries in 5 hrs. that's y i go through 4 carts/day - but those claims that a cart last a day are complete nonsense - even my first day using it i burned through a cart (and i didn't receive it until like 4pm) a cart might b closer to 10 cigs than a whole pack. though i think it's closer to 7 or 8 cigs
 
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I own an M-401. I've tried dripping, especially when I was having problems with overfilling/underfilling the carts. But since I got the knack of filling them consistently, I just use the carts. For me, it's more convenient carrying spare carts in my PCC than carrying bottles of juice.

My only experience with cartos was an old Green Smoke (E9?) type model. They seemed to hold a lot of juice, but (at least at the time) the Green Smoke batteries would only let you draw for like 2 seconds before it would shut itself off.

I'm looking at getting a "big" 510 (ego,tornado,etc.) so it might be fun to try the 510 cartos.
 

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I agree with your dripping sentiments - so much easier than any other method.

after - ZFM, blue foam, spring mod, straw mod... some worked ok but not great and all have draw backs and inconsistency.

Cartomizer burning scares me and refilling is a pain.

dripping - simple, fuss free vaping.

I suggest you grab a cheap drip tip - eastmall and heaven gifts have them - makes dripping even better again.
 

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I liked normal Carts for a long time,with a drip tip....
However recently I got some 510 Cartomizers (blank) from Madvapes...
I love em, heck I can fill them over and over...
so far so good.
They are easy to fill, pop top fill pop top back on and vape for a hour or so.
When dripping, it was take a few big drags off of the cart tip, then 2-3 drops and repeat.
I suppose, that cartomizers have their place , I personally love mine.
Anyone know of a link to any information,as to how long the Cartomizers can / or have lasted....I.E. lifespan??.....
 

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the_anitsheep, you have saved like millions I think your counter is off or analongs are wayyyy more there than they are here! LOL

When you say you are dripping do you mean on exposed atty? I have like a m901 or something and the atty is exposed. It seems when it gets too much juice it stops working until it airs out and I blow it out. Can you drip on this type of atty?
I'm rolling back the Federal deficit with my abstinence!

I drip on the atty, but I use an empty cart (no filler) as the tip...


So why drip?
One of the biggest reasons is because the ATTY seems to last forever and doesn't get gunked up... Aside from that, it really isn't a hassle to pull the cap off, throw a couple drips in there and close it up. You get a decent amount of time from those drips. Vapor production is above and beyond any other method I have tried as well.



I own an M-401. I've tried dripping, especially when I was having problems with overfilling/underfilling the carts. But since I got the knack of filling them consistently, I just use the carts. For me, it's more convenient carrying spare carts in my PCC than carrying bottles of juice.
It seems to me, based on my observations, that anything that has the possibility to maintain residue for long periods of time on the atty (more than a couple hours / overnight) creates the gunking up situation. Dripping seems to avoid this... Of course, using your cart all at once, or taking it off and finding some sealed storage may be an option, but opening a bottle and throwing in a few drips seems like much less of a hassle (and fewer small parts to carry around and keep track of).

Cart filler also tastes like ...., so babysitting is a requirement on a cart...

I have just had a whole bunch of cartos go bad and a few attys and decided I needed to find something that didn't gunk them up and didn't take much effort.

I suggest you grab a cheap drip tip - eastmall and heaven gifts have them - makes dripping even better again.

This may be worth the investment... What's the benefit?
 
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