dunno why but recently keep getting dry hits on my kayfun, i just switched to cotton after months of ekowool. Using 100% sterile cotton. The thing i don't get is that the dry hits come right after i rewick. Im using single coil 1.3 ohms kanthal 28 gauge wire. Should i go back to ekowool? Or will double coil help me. vaping at 20 watts only on my grape juice from KS and 16 watts on my suicide bunny mother's milk. The burnt taste is mild, but it really puts me off and i want to vomit.
Dry hits on kayfun 3.1
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Your watts are too high for a 1.3 ohm
Try changing your cotton. Juice it first and fire, and add some juices again close up and fill up
Also remember to dry burnt your coil fist prior re wicking with cotton
Set around 12.7W should be fine
I am using MM 1.2ohm at 12.3 on authentic DNA
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Try changing your cotton. Juice it first and fire, and add some juices again close up and fill up
Also remember to dry burnt your coil fist prior re wicking with cotton
Set around 12.7W should be fine
I am using MM 1.2ohm at 12.3 on authentic DNA
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How do u stuff the cotton on the deck? Maybe u're stuffing too much cotton that it blocks the juice channel. After rewicking, try to vape without firing it while your index finger covers and open the airhole a few times.. Cotton works better for me compared to ekawool
Should i use double coil? Then it will be around 0/6/0.7 ohms. I always dry burn my coils and test fire. What ohms is best for 25-30watts?
no i dont use too much cotton, use the amount i see on riptrippers videos, and also they arent too thick, they slide through the coils easily when very mildly twisted.
no i dont use too much cotton, use the amount i see on riptrippers videos, and also they arent too thick, they slide through the coils easily when very mildly twisted.
kayfun's wicking can't keep up at high watts. i usually do 12-14 watts on a 1.4 coil. Anything higher will taste dry. You can also try using koh gen do organic cotton. It wicks faster than sterile cotton and dry hits are less harsh
Try wicking with rayon then u will be able to crank the watts. I have trouble with WET hits since i started using rayon in my kayfun. Be advised that u will go thru A LOT of juice.
Couple of things. That's a lot of power for the kayfun unless it's been modified. I can push about 25 with a superb coil and perfect wicking, but that's about the max. And I generally use a bit more metal. I'm guessing your biggest problem is wicking. With the top of the chimney off, but the bottom on, you want to look down and make sure you can see the juice channels fine. They should not be blocked by the cotton. Cotton shouldn't be anywhere near them. Also you have to make sure you have enough cotton. It can't be tight, but there should be a little resistance when you pull it back and forth in the coil. If it's not enough the coil won't stay wet. Too much and it'll choke and give you dry his. Again, most important thing is keep the cotton well clear of those ducts.
25 watts > are usually for sub ohms. You can try buildin lower on drippers but I don't think it will work on kayfun like what mewtwo said haha the wicking can't keep up
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My KF insulator melted after weeks of sub ohms so now all my current build are always 1.2ohm and above..
If you want high wattage build, KF is out..
I disagree. In fact, when talking about higher wattage I actually prefer higher ohm builds. I'll give you an example. Right this minute I'm using a fogger tank. Running at 50 watts. Inside? Dual 3.4 ohm coils, meaning a total resistance of 1.7 ohms.
Let's take for instance an unmodified kayfun. If I build a single half ohm coil, let's say it's 4 wraps of 26. If I throw 20 watts on it. That means I'm dissipating 5 watts per wrap. That's going to be a lot of heat in a very small portion, and hard to keep wet.
Now on the other hand, let's say I do the same, but make a 2 ohm coil. Now I've got 18 wraps of 26.
Now even if I double the wattage and put 40 watts on it. Now I'm only putting 2.2 watts per wrap, less than half of what I was doing at half the wattage. The heat is now dissipated over a much larger surface area. The result is a lot more vapor and density, yet it's much easier to keep the coil wet.
Uhm I'm talking abt drippers not kayfun. Let's say you're using 15 watts on 1.5 ohm, that's just 4v.
If you run exact 15 watts on an 0.1 ohm is way less than 4v, I use 30 watts on a 0.3ohm coil and it's perfect .
If you're runnin at 50 watts on 3.4 ohm coil. That's a total voltage of 14.7+ (P=VI) in case you don't know. Tht burns out the battery fast and dosent produce as much flavour
But if you insist you're right then up to you. 18 wraps of 26g is possible in a rda but I'm not sure if it's possible in a kayfun.
Mind showing me a picture of a 18wraps building on kayfun? Pls I'm Interested
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Uhm I'm talking abt drippers not kayfun. Let's say you're using 15 watts on 1.5 ohm, that's just 4v.
If you run exact 15 watts on an 0.1 ohm is way less than 4v, I use 30 watts on a 0.3ohm coil and it's perfect .
If you're runnin at 50 watts on 3.4 ohm coil. That's a total voltage of 14.7+ (P=VI) in case you don't know. Tht burns out the battery fast and dosent produce as much flavour
But if you insist you're right then up to you. 18 wraps of 26g is possible in a rda but I'm not sure if it's possible in a kayfun.
Mind showing me a picture of a 18wraps building on kayfun? Pls I'm Interested
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I run the same way on drips. The same principle applies. The only exception in my opinion is mechs, since you can't change the voltage. So to get more heat your only choice is to lower the resistance.
Now as for battery life... Let's say we have a .35 ohm coil at 50 watts. (And yes, I'm well aware of ohms law, I'm an ee.
at 4.2 volts on a fresh cell that's starting 12 amps. If we then take a 1.4 ohm coil at 50 watts we're only drawing 6 amps. However it now requires 8.4 volts to drive at that wattage, we've double our voltage, so at the battery we're going to double the current, since we're trading current for voltage in our regulator. So we'll still be drawing 12 amps off the battery at 4.2 volts. The point is, 50 watts is 50 watts is 50 watts. The battery is going to drain the same no matter how you look at it.What changes is the surface area you're spreading that 50 watts over. And more surface area means more vapor (within reason) and less heat over a given area.
As for the 14 volts, I said they are dual coils, for a total resistance of 1.7 ohm. It's throwing 8.37 volts on them to get 50 watts.
Last but not least, in regards to an 18 wrap coil on a kayfun, that's not a build I use, I was simply giving a comparison as an example, 4 wraps compared to 18 in that case. Though if you did a double barrel coil it shouldn't be hard, I do run 9-12 wrap coils in them, so as a double barrel it should be manageable.
I'm not dissing sub ohm here, I've ran many many sub ohm builds in my time. With mechs they are absolutely the way to go to get the flavor and vapor. But in my honest opinion, now that we have regulated mods that can put out 9+ volts instead of the 3.7 average our mechs put out, I personally feel like you can get a higher quality vape running at higher resistance and higher voltage. Dripper or no. I think a lot of it was just carried over from the days before these mods were available.
I had a guy in the local b&m not long ago hit my tobh and then told me I was screwing with him, cause there was no way a 1.6 ohm build could hit like that. I popped the cap and showed him the build before he believed me. Prior to this he had told me on several occasions that you had to be sub ohm to get the flavor and vapor he likes. He said he was arguing with a guy the day before who claimed you didn't need sub ohm on the newer high voltage mods. The next day I brought in my tobh. I knew there was no need in arguing with him, so I just showed him. He admitted Asher that he had never tried a higher resistance build like that. He had just transferred his knowledge from mechs over and that was that.
unless u are a very experienced builder, I suggest getting a dual coil for such high watts. KF in general not very suitable for so high wattages as some of the bros here had mentioned. generally because the wetting of the cotton cannot keep up with the heat. and normally, after 2 puffs, u get dry hits.
since u like warm vape, I suggest to get a astro or a v4. even those, I do get dry hits once in a while. and build it correctly, u can even go for 30w. However, take note that ur juice will be used up in doubly quick time. lol
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