Due for an upgrade...Options?

[gutter22]

So I've been on my Vision Spinners since Feb. (Works great still!), I feel I'm ready for an upgrade.

I've narrowed my options down to the Silver Bullet (Olive Drab!), kicked w/ a (Black) sleeve & Panasonic CGR18650CH's (2250mah).

I also plan on using rba's. I've narrowed my main one down to RichMan's rba. Will test with digital multimeter.

I need to know how well this setup will work and also more recommendations on dripping RBA's and perhaps more tank options that would look nice atop a Silver Bullet.

On a side note, has anyone used the DboxTech Puritank?

 

[Foxman]

Silver Bullett is a great straight device. Might want to look into AGA-T2. great easy to set up RBA.

 

[Dr33m]

For the price I love the IGO-L dripper, inexpensive and easy to setup.

 

[gutter22]

Foxman, would you go silver bullet route over the provari?

 

[Dr33m]

What, is it because I'm a Bama fan? Or my low post count? In state love Anyway, Both are nice in their own right. I have a Provari because it was the only variable anything when I bought it. The Darwin has always been sold out, and I'm not a fan of how it looks. Provari = big $$$, for the money these days I would go with a EVIC or similar. Variable wattage makes life easier by far. I do have a Kick ordered along with a Super-T ELA and I know I'm going to have to pull it out every so often to clean the brass contacts to keep it consistent. I've alwasy heard the Silver Bullet's are a solid mod but no experience with them. Virtually every atty I have is rebuildable so really all I need is an ohm checker. If you build the coil to low ohms, no need for VV/VW. My

 

[Sniffle]

I have both the AGA-T and the Richman RBA, they are basically the same mod, and i am not saying that because they are RBA's they are very similar in top deck design, construction, accessories provided with the device, and accessory packaging. The box is a littel nicer on the Richman, and the top thumb screws are larger which makes the top wire easier to clamp down. I honestly think they are built in the same place the Richman is like an AGA-T with tweaks that fix some minor issues with the AGA-T.

Oh and FYI the Richman comes from Hawaii so order it Priority Mail so you don't wait forever.

The setup itself will work fine, just be prepared to play with it to get it to work.

Good luck and have fun

 

[Foxman]

Foxman, would you go silver bullet route over the provari?

Depends on whether you want to use RBA or silica tanks. Bullet is Direct connection so a Sub 1.0 ohm tank won't work on a Provari. BUT the silver bullet in almost industrible, lol. Really depends on what you want, lol. A RBA built to atleast 1.3 ohms will work on anything, lol Provari is EXPENSIVE. You can get a Vamo for half of a Provari.

 

[gutter22]

I want something with a warranty, that's basically the only reason I'm wanting a Provari/Silver Bullet. I've seen way too many stories about Vamo's, Evic's, Zmax's...etc crapping out after a few months. While I could buy multiple mods for the price of one Provari, I wouldn't want to keep flushing money down the crapper. I'm not one to change flavors or tanks often so I'm not too concerned with VW. In fact, I just ordered 4oz bottles of me and my wives main flavor. Butterscotch and Extreme Ice.

Dr33m, while Bama does suck, it's nothing personal. I've just followed Sammy and Fox since I joined I love the ELA, but that's getting a little crazy on prices. Since they are moving the manufacturing in house you would think the prices would actually go down, not up. It sure is sexy though.

Sniffle, as for the Richman vs AGA-T2, are the differences that small? I really liked that the top came down over the tank more on the Richman. I figured it would offer more protection.

Any news on the AGT Titanium?

 

[Foxman]

Gutter, you might think about a Bolt. It's bascially a Silver Bullett but not as expensive. It's a straight device like the Bullett. An anodised alum is about 35.00 almost anywhere. Madvapes has the plastic ones for 11.99 right now. Spend an extra 7 bucks or so for an upgrade on the button and VHALLAH, lol. There a Great straight device and it won't kill your wallet.

 

[the wind]

this may not help matters but here is a nifty mechanical.Super T ~ Precise Simplicity

 

[gutter22]

this may not help matters but here is a nifty mechanical.Super T ~ Precise Simplicity

If only they made something similar that works with 18650's.

 

[the wind]

they do just out of stock for two weeks.Super T ~ PrecisePlus Units

 

[Sniffle]

give me a little bit as i am at work i will take some pics(i have them both with me) so you can see them side by side. Don't hold your breath though it may be later tonight when i get home. I work in the biggest hospital in B'ham so if it gets busy i'll be lucky to make it outside to vape much less take pics

 

[gutter22]

they do just out of stock for two weeks.Super T ~ PrecisePlus Units

Then it gets up to the same cost as the Provari though lol

 

[Sniffle]

 

[Sniffle]

i had a few min, there are subtle differences, but for the most part they are the same. and yes the skirt is much longer on the richman.

edit: I should add, they sent some 400 mesh with 32AWG wire(unknown type) and some 500 mesh with 30AWG wire(unknown type) with my richman order. I didn't compare the mesh received to what i already have but i have had nothing but wicking troubles from the 500 they sent me, the juice in it is MBV Blood Orange 12mg, max VG content, and my own 500 mesh has no trouble with 12mg High Caliber Red & White in their max VG liquid which i believe is in the 80/20 range. After this weekend of working i plan to pull the wick and coil to rebuild it with my own wire and mesh to verify whether it is the juice causing the trouble or the mesh that was sent with the order. This isn't really a big deal as you will need to buy your own mesh eventually anyway, but it is something to be mindful of, and you may not have any trouble at all.

 

[Sniffle]

after messing with it some more, it wasn't there mesh so much to say that I was in a hurry and used there mesh(which was too short for the tight wicks i roll) and it has been giving fits because i didn't roll a correct wick, not because there is any issues with the material they sent.

i roll between 90-100mm of 500 mesh for my stock aga-t and will probably use close to that for my richman as well.

 

[gutter22]

Thanks for all the info Sniffle! Its nice being able to see them side by side like that.

Also, I noticed you mainly use mesh, are there major advantages to using mesh vs silica? 400 vs 500?

I always run 50/50 mixes. I've been mixing my own juice for the past 2 or 3 months.

Edit: I noticed the RSST's wick hole is insulated to help with the wicks shorting out. Do either one of them (AGA, Richman) have this feature?

 

[Sniffle]

I'm about to start mixing my own as well

umm honestly the taste of mesh seems cleaner to me than silica and to clean it i can pull the wick out put it to a torch to burn anything that might have collected off and put it back in, but as far as setup goes it can be a little more troublesome.

The rule of thumb I have learned is that with mesh the tighter rolled the better and the smaller holes in the mesh itself the better because it relies on something called capillary action to pull juice up from tank. That being said 500 is the better of the two if you follow that rule of thumb.

As far as ease of use, and setup silica is much more forgiving because you don't have to worry about silica shorting out.

There was a thread in the rebuildable section i believe that discussed silica potentially at high temps breaking off in microscopic slivers and being inhaled with the vapor, but on the same note there has been speculation of chromium being produced when oxidizing mesh wicks. I personally don't worry about that too much because either way it is better for you than real smokes, and nothing besides not inhaling anything foreign is the only way to remove all of the potential risks and we know that.


EDIT: The RSST(which i do not own) is doubly insulated. The juice actually sits in a cup that the wick sits in, and because of this cannot touch the bottom and become part of the circuit, as well at the wick hole itself is insulated to isolate the SS mesh wick completely from the coil circuit. I have read that many many people say that if you plan to do a rebuildable with SS mesh that the RSST is where to start because you basically wrap your coil and vape, and don't have to worry about shorts. you just have to worry about caustic juices killing your cup.

EDIT2: no this feature is only available on the RSST to date that i know of but i could be wrong if there are other, custom models.

 

[gutter22]

The RSST sounds great, but I sooooo don't want to buy anything from SmokTech. I'd rather take my chances with the AGA-T2 or Richman lol

I noticed you use MBV, you can order straight from Flavor West and Wizardlabs and you'll be set. Get syringe's of multiple sizes (1,3,10,20) and I use a metal meat injector for my VG. If you try it with a normal low gauge (14ga) needle and syringe you will see why lol. Wizardlab's bottles are the exact same as MBV as well. However, after doing this for months, I would recommend going with glass. Much easier to clean! Ordered my PG and VG off Amazon in Qt sizes and saved a bunch too.