Duel Coil Carto's

[wyetterp]

I just don't get it. I can't find a single advantage of a duel coil carto over standard 3.0ohm boges (or any single coil for that matter). Logically, it seems like they should be so good on a V2, but truthfully they just don't seem any where near as good as a single coil. I've tried duels from 1.5-3.0ohm. Used them in tanks & with out on ever setting.

Am I missing something here? Are they better on other devices?

 

[Nomoreash]

Have to agree with you, I've had a pack sitting in the drawer for months designated as emergency use only. Aside from a stronger throat hit if ones likes that sort of thing I'll take a Boge or Kanger horizontal coil over it any day. IMO they least longer without burning or the draw tightening up, cost less and don't put as much stress on the battery.

 

[Slurp812]

They taste different, some like them. I still prefer singles. Iv got a box of 2.5 ohm duals, only use one of them once in a while. Still haven't used it enough to wear it out yet...

 

[wyetterp]

I got several sitting in a drawer also. As far as more throat hit, I don't really get any added TH over a single, but that's just me I guess. I've only used Smoketech's & wonder if that's it. I've also only bought the ones with out the flange & just punch them myself. Don't really see the point in spending extra money to buy punched, considering how easy it is. I do know the ST duel's flood super easy & I have to make the hole as small as I possibly can.

Is there another brand that work better on the provari? The ST's I have don't even really crackle that well, even cranked all the way up.

I would think if the duels would be good on anything it would be the V2. Maybe somethings going on with the regulator that just holds them down or restricts them..?

 

[Frick]

I would think if the duels would be good on anything it would be the V2. Maybe somethings going on with the regulator that just holds them down or restricts them..?

From here:

Some more details on the limits:
The new output limit (when you will get an E2) is 3.5 amps from 2.9 v to 4.2v. Above 4.2v the output limit is set to 14.5 watts. So above 4.2v each step has a little bit different current limit based on a power calculation. You will find that you can go much higher voltage with LR, but you won't be able to crank it all the way up to 6 volts with a LR..basically cooking the atty

You may be hitting the wattage limit, although 14.5 is 7.25 from each coil, which should be a huge amount of vapor.

I don't get dual-coils either. I don't get what they're meant to accomplish. I think they were designed for the long tanks, and the thought may have been that a single coil wouldn't vape all the juice, but they just don't work well for me, while Boge cartos work fine in tanks. I have some dual-coils sitting here that I bought when I first got into tanks, but I imagine I'll just keep them for emergency use now.

 

[wyetterp]

From here:



You may be hitting the wattage limit, although 14.5 is 7.25 from each coil, which should be a huge amount of vapor.

There's something going on I can't figure out what. I know it surely doesn't fell like 14.5watts. Yeah, there's no way. I'd fall over with 14.5watts. It really feels like I'm only getting the lower end wattage wise. To me it actually feels more like the 7.25 is getting split between the two coils. Also, out of all the duel I have they don't really cook & crackle. I just barely hear them.

After posting this thread I decide to fill a tank with another 3ohm duel & I've been vaping it just to try to figure it out. I'm starting to wonder if it may just be my device..? It really fells anemic compared to boge singles. Right now I have a new ST 3ohm duel in a tank set to 5.0 & I have to hold the button a really long time to get a decent hit. With a 3ohm single, it only takes a quick button push to get what I'm getting.

Does this sound right to any one else using the same type set up?

 

[Frick]

I don't think any of the ones I've tried were as high as 3 ohm. I know I had some 2 and 2.5 ohm, and both work fine, I'm just not a fan of the vape. They sure do crackle and snap, though.

But yeah, it takes a lot more of a drag to get a decent hit than it does on a single-coil Boge, no doubt.

 

[wyetterp]

Thanks Frick. Not getting a good crackle out of the 3ohm duel was starting to make me think maybe something was wrong with the pv. I had to go get a old 1.7 & 2.0. The 1.7 really popped & the 2 just a little less. The 3.0 was minimal.

I guess I just really don't care for the dual's. I can't find any advantage.

Ok, all the duels are going back in the drawer till a rainy day.

 

[Frick]

Thanks Frick. Not getting a good crackle out of the 3ohm duel was starting to make me think maybe something was wrong with the pv. I had to go get a old 1.7 & 2.0. The 1.7 really popped & the 2 just a little less. The 3.0 was minimal.

I guess I just really don't care for the dual's. I can't find any advantage.

Ok, all the duels are going back in the drawer till a rainy day.

I'm home now and able to check: none of my DC cartos are 3 ohm.

I don't care for them either. I have several sitting in the "emergency use only" pile.

 

[lunchbox91]

I'm with the, don't get it group. When I was experimenting with them I noticed that as i vape the coil near the bottom would still be wet but the upper coil would be all dried out and burning the poly. Standard bogs's work just fine. The Provari is fancy enough, no need to add a fancy carto on top of it.

 

[wyetterp]

That's what it feels like to me as well.

 

[jkmtwo]

I got into the dual coils, and they were fine for me, until I got some of the 3ohm boges, man I hate the dc's now, the 3 ohm boges hit great, have great flavor, and are more versital, depending on the juice, they perform well at 4.2 all the way up to 6. I'll only ever use the DCs now in an emergency situation.

 

[wyetterp]

Exactly!!!

 

[Sanity Challenged]

Vaping my ProVari w/ a dual coil right now. I mostly use Boge 3 ohm but the dual coils give a moister, cooler vape with the same volume, which I like for certain juices. Makes my Juicy Peach juicier.

 

[Paradox28]

wrong thread.

 

[hairball]

Dcc's show their true colors at high voltages and will out perform a boge in all aspects.

 

[sandscards]

Hairball, which DCC's do you use and at what voltage. I have 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5 that I have been using with my ego and lavatube. Just got a Provari and wondering where you vape at on the DCCs. I don't think the lavatube would go high enough to use to their full potential in that I also have a 5v box mod that would work them pretty hard with good results. Just curious where you ended up since I utilize a tank with them and would like to settle on one ohm for my DCCs and play with the voltage for different juices. Thanks, sandscards

 

[wyetterp]

I guess it's subjective. I've cranked duels up as high as they'd go & they still don't hit as hard as a 3ohm single coil. I've tried 1.5, 1.7, 2.0, 2.5, & 3ohm. I feel like I'm having to take the longest draw possible to get what I do out of single & a regular draw. The hit just seems harsher on the duels.

But, that's just me I guess.

 

[Stownz]

Its the higher voltages that they shine. In particular, its the burning of the juice or polyfill that a lot of us were trying to get away from. The ability to crank a carto up and produce tremendous vapor and flavor without that burnt tire taste in your mouth=heaven. High VG juices take particular advantage of higher voltage. Certain flavorings can also take advantage of dual coils @ high voltage and avoid the burnt plastic taste.

In the end, if your sick of the burnt plastic taste in your mouth because you keep cranking up single coils trying to find your sweet spot: Use a Dual Coil. If you don't burn juice in a single coil, then there is no need for DCs.