e-cig haters?

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horton

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Let me ask you this, Guitar ---- Have you tried to delete your account? I have tried and it keeps coming back like a bad penny. I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. I'd like to get rid of it completely. Emails sent have not been replied to.... big surprise....lol.
I'd really like to just ditch it, but it's like it is glued to my computer somehow. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance..... horton
 

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I ran across a site not too long ago that explained all the hate in a way that made a lot of sense to me. They said that most hate is created from fear. Ex smokers fear going back, and as we all know, the itch is always there, no matter how hard they try to deny it. Smokers who are not yet ready to quit, those that haven't lost a loved one to smoking related diseases or hacked up a lung every morning, fear giving up their life long companion. Heck, I feared it even when I wanted to quit and was riding the NRT roller coaster. To them it probably seems like just another NRT, and the addiction won't let them hear what we have to say any more than we listened before we were ready to. The antis fear losing their funding and positions of power, or are simply sheeple that blindly buy into what the first group of antis are selling.
 

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So true, StormFinch. The antis I know (family members) are more hateful because they don't like the aesthetics of smoking. I always thought it was health-related, until my sister got pissy about seeing a guy using an e-cig at a mall kiosk. She was clearly annoyed at having to see someone "smoke." No amount of information can change that.
 

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Yeah a lot of people are like that who are un educated about e-cigarettes. Especially people in bars, restaurants, people who work in public places who do not know what e-cigarettes are and do not care to know what it is, and how it works, but the fact is they do not want it being used in their place of business. I think people will come around and people will become familiar with it and know what it is and how it benefits people.
 

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Here's what bothers me. Why announce it to anyone? It is simply a change from Marlboros to e cigs. Why is that anyone's business? I have found that if I announce that I am going on a diet, I fail. Too many people asking how it is going. If I keep it to myself and am successful, then a few months later; people say, "wow, you have lost a ton of weight." I say, yes, I have, and go on my way. It is for myself that I choose to lose weight or switch to e cigs. Why the big deal? You only open yourself to criticism by making it public.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't brag about my other habits so I don't feel the need to advertise my new one. I'm hard enough on myself without an audience.

The problem with social media (and maybe me turning into my Dad) is the compulsion to share TMI along with immediate gratification. I just don't get it. You got to have some discipline around what's appropriate and important enough to waste someone else's time with.

My favorite "back when I was your age" story was sitting at my grandparents dinner table one night and the phone rang. And rang. And rang. Back when phones were leased from AT&T, had real bells ringing in them, and no voice mail. Grandma was a little edgy about sitting there with that phone ringing off the hook but damn sure wasn't getting up. 8 yr old me asked Grandpa why he didn't answer the phone. He very quickly responded that he paid the GD bill on that phone and he would answer it when he felt like it. To this day I think about that nearly every time my phone rings at an inconvenient time.
 

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Here's what bothers me. Why announce it to anyone? It is simply a change from Marlboros to e cigs. Why is that anyone's business? I have found that if I announce that I am going on a diet, I fail. Too many people asking how it is going. If I keep it to myself and am successful, then a few months later; people say, "wow, you have lost a ton of weight." I say, yes, I have, and go on my way. It is for myself that I choose to lose weight or switch to e cigs. Why the big deal? You only open yourself to criticism by making it public.

This is very selfish... How would you feel if no one ever educated you on something that was good?

Funny enough, I spent like 45 mins writing my perspective on the vapers vs smokers debate and I tried to submit it but I got auto-logged out and when I went back my post was deleted :( It was actually really well written too. None of this transcribed verbal vomet ;)
 
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