I know there is plenty of controversy surrounding PVs in America and the FDA might possible ban then if they havent done so already. I just want to know if there is any chance that UK/EU countries might follow in their footsteps??
E-cig laws
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If our governments are in the pockets of big tobacco and pharmacuticals then I'd guess the chances are the same.
I'll be stockpiling big time if it starts to look like a reality.
I know it such a great product, havent touched a analog since the day i got it. HA if you ever feel like thats going to happen do give me a heads up so I can start stockpiling as well
Yeah, same. Not touched an analog since starting full time, not even been tempted. I've never actually enjoyed smoking, I've always hated the addiction. But e-cigs are something I look forward to 
Personally I don't think it's likely, packaging and age related legislation maybe but I can't see it going much further than that.
They'll be nothing aimed at them specifically but there are enough regs out there to make life very difficult;
Nickel release
Total cadmium
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RoHs
General product safety regs
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Transformers
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Nickel release
Total cadmium
Weee
RoHs
General product safety regs
Batts & Accums
EMC
Transformers
etc. etc.
Well I just really got concerned because as of July 1st advertising smoking in Ireland is banned, when you go to the shops all the cig racks are covered by this big plastic thing that say's no smoking if you're under 18. Thier reasoning behind all this is "they dont want children to see cigs being advertised" so the next step I assume would be to ban people from smoking anywhere in public so kids dont see it. Quiet a ridiculous law in my opinion.
There was talk of doing that here too. I can see that becomming closer to a reality now.
Is it the sight of cigarettes behind a counter that starts children smoking? Or seeing their elders and peers doing it?
One more step towards the Orwelian nanny state
well, it's pretty bad for you... and although some people may smoke happily till they're 80, most people will die from some smoking-related disease. although some people may find it quite easy to kick the habit, for a lot of people it's very very difficult. i find it sad to see people smoking while they're pregnant or are already experiencing problems due to the habit. if the cigarette was introduced today no way would it pass regulatory laws, but it continues to be available to profit large corporates and the govt via taxation. no matter what the measure is, i think any action to stop more people dying from smoking is positive.
i totally agree with you on that statement, but how far are we willing to go to stop people from smoking?? in the end it is a personal choice and it is extremly sad when you see a pregnant woman smoking, and personally i do believe cig's should be banned if they're so bad for you. The governments are all fired up about passing new laws to prevent kids from smoking but if the product is so bad why not just ban it?? The government should be looking out for the best interest of the people not corporate monopolies.
I blame the NHS, it it wasn't for them Darwins laws of evolution would have rid of brain dead smoking mums, chavs and anyone else without the capacity for common sense, self contol or those willing to take responsibity for their own actions decades ago.
let us smoke, take crack, drive cars, cross roads etc etc, it's our lives we know the risks, I don't need a one eyed scottish ****er or any other politician telling me how to live it, well not whilst he's living off the taxes raised from it
Because they get good headlines from it "Hey we are saving your life", well they can jog on double time.
If the current laws were enforced as they should be you'd not see an underage person smoking ever, we don't need more laws on the books we need a government and police force that can do their job
Because they get good headlines from it "Hey we are saving your life", well they can jog on double time.
If the current laws were enforced as they should be you'd not see an underage person smoking ever, we don't need more laws on the books we need a government and police force that can do their job
I agree I've never seen anyone carded when buying cigs in Ireland. And i'm unclear as to what is the governments job? Is it to tax us to death or help give us better lives? The current price of a pack of smokes in Ireland is 8.35 euro 3 years ago it was 7.15. Thats a pretty big increase, and if they think raising taxes will prevent people from smoking well they're idiots. Smoking is an addiction i suppose just like drinking coffee (caffine) i dont see them raising taxes on coffee prices. I think we're living in a society where everyone is too concerned about eliminating smoking because of the halth risks and being over protective over children, its annoying. I think they just have an alternate agenda of putting more money in their pockets, because as long as ciggs are being produced people are going to smoke them, raising taxes is just a scam to make the goverment wealthier, oh and might I add Irish politicians are the highest paid politicians in the world, yet the country is falling apart. (sorry if all that doesnt make any sense its just a bunch of random angry thoughts, i'm sick of high taxes and people trying to force their will on me (smokers))
I was thinking about this, but I think the big thing that will prevent them banning this in the UK is the NHS. In the US they get the tax revenue and none of the cost, here we get the revenue and the cost, and while the revenue is higher most won't see that and will only see this as a way to reduce the NHS bill.
We also have the power of the red tops, who I think would be quite happy to take up the e-cig cause if it came to it, and as much as I het them, sometimes they can do an aweful lot.
I agree with all the nanny state comments, but then I came up with a plan to stop smoking all together (and I came up with this plan when I was about 18, now if only I could get someone to listen). All they have to do is raise the legal age of smoking by 1 year every year, by the time it hits 30 there will be no excuse for selling to 16 year olds, the 25 year olds who could pass are a hell of a lot less likley to try, and after 30-40 years the country is smoke free...I think it's too simple for the govt to take it up though
We also have the power of the red tops, who I think would be quite happy to take up the e-cig cause if it came to it, and as much as I het them, sometimes they can do an aweful lot.
I agree with all the nanny state comments, but then I came up with a plan to stop smoking all together (and I came up with this plan when I was about 18, now if only I could get someone to listen). All they have to do is raise the legal age of smoking by 1 year every year, by the time it hits 30 there will be no excuse for selling to 16 year olds, the 25 year olds who could pass are a hell of a lot less likley to try, and after 30-40 years the country is smoke free...I think it's too simple for the govt to take it up though
Excellent idea yoshimi - by the time the legal age is 30, most people who are currently smoking will had quit or died! Smoking irradicated in only 12years.
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I don't know about you Rusty, but I plan on being around for another 40+ years, quit or not
I wana say something but I dont really know much about the uk government system but i dont think smoking should be eradicated like a disease, if people want to suck on it and give themselves cancer so be it. there are loads of ways to quit, and most of us on this forum are living proof that it is possible to give up smoking. the government how ever needs to start enforcing the current laws instead of starting up a new one every few months.
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