Totally disagree. He's using a MINI and wants a realistic TH. eGo plus right juice will work, and at a reasonable price.
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Totally disagree. He's using a MINI and wants a realistic TH. eGo plus right juice will work, and at a reasonable price.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with starting out on something else - I started out on something else. But the OP did the same thing, and wasn't satisfied with what he got. He went back to analogs, because close wasn't close enough.
I've ordered the GLV-2 Mini because I don't want that harsh throat hit. I tried one, and it darned near ripped my throat out. I guess I'm not as tough as I like to think I am. The OP, on the other hand, specifically said a harsh throat hit is crucial to him. I honestly believe his best bet is to get one of the higher voltage mods. I also don't think you can automatically assume people don't understand or will be confused by the way different voltage and resistance play into this. Electricity all works the same, no matter what the circuit is designed for, and there are plenty of people who understand electricity.
Ditto this!
I just got mine last night in the mail, and OMG, what a difference to what I was using.
I am a newbie, still learning the ropes.
Telling a person to buy a fixed voltage PV in the world that already has VV devices in it, with less expensive ones hitting the market each month is like suggesting a Stereo ot Television that only plays at one volume.
If people are smart enough to adjust the volume on the TV, they are smart enough to adjust their vape.
This isn't rocket science.
The train has left the station for fixed voltage. The suggestion I made about getting a VV is a good one, based on solid experience. Vaping just gets SO much easier and better with VV. If you disagree and have not tried VV, then you have no way to compare.
It's like saying you don't like PEAS, yet have never tried them...
If people are smart enough to adjust the volume on the TV, they are smart enough to adjust their vape.
This isn't rocket science.
The train has left the station for fixed voltage. The suggestion I made about getting a VV is a good one, based on solid experience. Vaping just gets SO much easier and better with VV. If you disagree and have not tried VV, then you have no way to compare.
It's like saying you don't like PEAS, yet have never tried them...
Juice is part of it, but certainly not all (or even most). I've used my eGo with everything from 16mg to 36mg. I've tried a few dozen different flavors, and settled on Menthol as my daily go-to. But my menthol, using my 510 cartomizer at 2.5 ohm, is what nearly ripped my throat out on a 5v mod. I started coughing and hacking like I was going to cough up a lung. I tried it after I'd already ordered a 3.6v GLV-2 Mini, and I wanted to see if I'd made a mistake - should I have gone with something more? I'm more convinced than ever that the GLV-2 Mini is the right one for me, but it doesn't follow that my choice is the right one for everyone.
I'm going to throw in my two cents here.
Not to refute other suggestions as they are all fine, what has worked the best for me has been a classic RN4081 kit, with cartomizers. (Got mine at aquavapor, but there are other shops like TW that have them as the super E cig). These are reliable and bloody consistent. I find two of these with a personal charging case, and around four filled carto's lasts me all day. They are a right fit for consistent vaping, (meaning it lasts for dozens of hits), and refilling the cartos is a piece of cake.
The RN4081 gets a bad rap because mall kiosks sell inferior ones for outrageous prices, but a good 4081 kit is fabulous. I prefer this one over my 510 any day of the week. The trick is a long slow draw, and you'll get loads and loads of flavor/hit/vapor.
As for juice, I'm not sure where to get it and I've never tried it, but somewhere on this forum people were raving about a juice called Purecig, which supposedly tastes like an ashtray LOL, thats about as close as you'll get to real cig flavor. I imagine that in a high nic level on a carto of a 4081 would be pretty throat hitting.
Not to refute other suggestions as they are all fine, what has worked the best for me has been a classic RN4081 kit, with cartomizers. (Got mine at aquavapor, but there are other shops like TW that have them as the super E cig). These are reliable and bloody consistent. I find two of these with a personal charging case, and around four filled carto's lasts me all day. They are a right fit for consistent vaping, (meaning it lasts for dozens of hits), and refilling the cartos is a piece of cake.
The RN4081 gets a bad rap because mall kiosks sell inferior ones for outrageous prices, but a good 4081 kit is fabulous. I prefer this one over my 510 any day of the week. The trick is a long slow draw, and you'll get loads and loads of flavor/hit/vapor.
As for juice, I'm not sure where to get it and I've never tried it, but somewhere on this forum people were raving about a juice called Purecig, which supposedly tastes like an ashtray LOL, thats about as close as you'll get to real cig flavor. I imagine that in a high nic level on a carto of a 4081 would be pretty throat hitting.
Well, yes but no. Because with the right set up, it won't matter what kind of juice you use. I had found that to get a good, satisfying hit with my small 510, I had a very hard time finding juice and was wasting money on it and they sat in a box. And even the juice that did offer a decent hit would never be consistent with it--but it's not the juice, at least in my case. Now, with the setup I have, it doesn't matter what juice I use. I am currently using LR cartomizers with an ego/riva battery set up and for now, I am very satisfied. I do know the risk in burning up battery life faster or killing switches but to me, the benefits outweigh the risk, which isn't that terrible anyway. Batteries are a consumable product and if I have to buy one a month (which I haven't blown one yet), it's still well worth it. I am itching to getting a good mod soon, though. Just because I can.
The best advice I can give is to just keep trying until that "oh, yeah" moment is reached.
No matter which kit you use (eGo, Riva, 501, or the kit you already have), the CART or the CARTO is probably the problem with inconsistent hitting (and that seems to be your biggest concern). Carts and cartos have to have time to wick the liquid between hits, and if you puff on your kit before it is done wicking then you get a crappy hit. They also tend to have less and less flavor/throat as they run lower on juice.
I would strongly recommend that you give dripping a decent shot. I find the extra "work" to be annoying, but I drip 90% of the time just because each hit is so freaking great - it is very, very consistent vapor, throat hit, etc.
Another problem might be if you have an automatic battery. They are flakey, and sometimes just don't come on at all when you puff.
In terms of "real" flavor, here is my take .... "authentic tasting fake menthol flavor" is way, way easier to produce than "authentic tasting fake tobacco flavor". I did NOT smoke menthol cigarettes, but I vape menthol exclusively since it actually tastes (to me) exactly like menthol should taste. I also find that the menthol adds to the throat hit, which I really like. I use Dekang 18Mg. I think all of the tobacco liquids are way too sweet.
I would strongly recommend that you give dripping a decent shot. I find the extra "work" to be annoying, but I drip 90% of the time just because each hit is so freaking great - it is very, very consistent vapor, throat hit, etc.
Another problem might be if you have an automatic battery. They are flakey, and sometimes just don't come on at all when you puff.
In terms of "real" flavor, here is my take .... "authentic tasting fake menthol flavor" is way, way easier to produce than "authentic tasting fake tobacco flavor". I did NOT smoke menthol cigarettes, but I vape menthol exclusively since it actually tastes (to me) exactly like menthol should taste. I also find that the menthol adds to the throat hit, which I really like. I use Dekang 18Mg. I think all of the tobacco liquids are way too sweet.
It's from Freedom Smoke USA. It's my go-to vape right now. And it tastes nothing like an ashtray. It's a "simple" juice--no caramel or sweet undertones or overtones. It just tastes like what we thought that a cigarette should taste like. Just my 2 cents worth.
And then there's this. I haven't used it because I don't need killer TH.
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...as am I.
I bought my first kit on August 6th. It wasn't great, but it got me off of a 36 year analog addiction. I had NO CLUE what an eGo was, or most of what I was reading about on this forum. I was happy with the menthol juice the store had, but then I discovered that their prices were high compared to vendors I found on this site.
Fast forward....wow, tomorrow is my 5 month anniversary...I have progressed to using my eGo for a backup. Right now I am dripping Backwoods Brew Malty Toffee, on a mini copper mod with a Joye 306 LR atty. I have a 3.7/6v Saber Touch and a mini Saber Touch from VaporMoon, and a Vapemate and stainless steel drip tips from Super T Manufacturing. I have bought and tried and disliked more juices than I ever want my husband to know about. I haven't vaped anything menthol in well over a month. Using LR attys makes me realize I should lower my nic level.
My point is that vaping has a huge learning curve, and there are soooooooooooo many choices, it can be extremely overwhelming. I don't know about anyone else, but when I was 14 and took my first drag off of a Marlboro Red outside the skating rink, I didn't end up smoking those. Kools, Newports, Newport Lights, Capri Menthols, Marlboro Menthol Lights, and probably a few I'm forgetting about were all my cigarette of choice at one time or another. Had there been Marlboro Cinnamons, I might have been smoking those. When you first switch to vaping, you want someone to hand you a Golden Ticket to YOUR perfect vape. Unfortunately, the only way to find what works is through trial and error. You'll know when YOU find that golden ticket, and in the end that's much more satisfying.
My advice would be to read this forum until your eyes hurt, come to terms with the fact that you'll be spending money on juice you end up hating, and hardware that just isn't for you. Eventually you'll open a package that contains a juice that makes you happy (one of my favorite juices, Velvet Vapors Bear Claw, is a free sample she included that I NEVER would have ordered on my own), an atty that you hope never dies, and a battery that snuggles into your hand and is activated in a way that makes you smile every time you put it up to your lips.
I can recommend the Ego with the passthrough battery. For your heavy smoking you will definitely need a serious battery. Due to your habit size (no offense intended) ciggy looking vaporizers don't even factor in. Like someone else mentioned for TH you should get 25 mg nic. I don't recommend higher due to the stimulant propeties and the fact that it will keep you up. Vaped 30mg last night! Bad idea. Lastly, IMHO tobacco flavors although are nostalgic are just a step in the wrong direction. Nobody has yet created the realistic vape taste of burnt tobacco and all of the other carcinogens. why are we searching for this? Flavors are the way to go, especially as your tastebuds and breathing start to recover. Lastly, the different flavors take you away from the "old habit" and just in case you do slip up it will taste like what it is, burnt tobacco and carcinogens. (Okay off my newbie soapbox now)
Just quoting this whole response because it is THAT good... it needs to be read twice.
Well, I am going to agree with scottinsocal.....and totally disagree with some that suggested that a "noob" should NOT be going to a mod unit !!! This is soooo not so!. I started with a Provape mod with LR cartomizers as "throat hit" was VERY important
and after doing my reading and resarching here, it appeared that a higher volt mod would be needed as well as a couple more things.
And it DID the trick, 100% !!! I do have to have some of the correct juice as well, so it is a combination of things.
Now for comparison with the Riva/Ego.
I was completely happy with my Provape set up, but I wanted to be able to experience different aspects of vaping, which would include trying different models and be able to comment with experience, which I now can do. I received my Riva last week from Liberty Flights, 510.
The Riva/Ego does NOT give the "same" throat hit that the Provape 3.7 with LR cartos does....Does NOT in the same way at all. IMO!!! we all have them, of course.
Do I get a sorta throat hit, yes, but again comparing to the higher voltage, it does not compare.
So I have to agree with a higher voltage unit, variable as well. As others have stated, it does not take a rocket scientist to use one...and that is where ALOT of people/vapers end up, so why cannot a "noob" start there ???
If needed, you can ask some of the one's with suggestions for Riva/Ego....HAVE YOU EVER USED AS HIGHER VOLT MOD 3.7 OR HIGHER VOLTAGE UNIT ??? and yes, the cartomizers, juice, need to be considered as well.
Does the OP need to read, watch and learn to help elevate his overall experience in vaping,
100% YES. I so agree with Brewlady and all she said !!!!
But, take heed to some of the suggestions for a higher voltage unit. I believe it's the way to go for you and what you are looking for.
Hope this all works out for you and I hope that you spend some additional time learning about vaping. It is soooo worth it in the long run. It is not as simple as walking in a store and buying a pack of cigs. Wish I could tell you it is, but it is not. But the benefits far outweigh some extra time/and or money you might spend learning.
The best to you, no matter what you decide.
and after doing my reading and resarching here, it appeared that a higher volt mod would be needed as well as a couple more things.
And it DID the trick, 100% !!! I do have to have some of the correct juice as well, so it is a combination of things.
Now for comparison with the Riva/Ego.
I was completely happy with my Provape set up, but I wanted to be able to experience different aspects of vaping, which would include trying different models and be able to comment with experience, which I now can do. I received my Riva last week from Liberty Flights, 510.
The Riva/Ego does NOT give the "same" throat hit that the Provape 3.7 with LR cartos does....Does NOT in the same way at all. IMO!!! we all have them, of course.
Do I get a sorta throat hit, yes, but again comparing to the higher voltage, it does not compare.
So I have to agree with a higher voltage unit, variable as well. As others have stated, it does not take a rocket scientist to use one...and that is where ALOT of people/vapers end up, so why cannot a "noob" start there ???
If needed, you can ask some of the one's with suggestions for Riva/Ego....HAVE YOU EVER USED AS HIGHER VOLT MOD 3.7 OR HIGHER VOLTAGE UNIT ??? and yes, the cartomizers, juice, need to be considered as well.
Does the OP need to read, watch and learn to help elevate his overall experience in vaping,
100% YES. I so agree with Brewlady and all she said !!!!
But, take heed to some of the suggestions for a higher voltage unit. I believe it's the way to go for you and what you are looking for.
Hope this all works out for you and I hope that you spend some additional time learning about vaping. It is soooo worth it in the long run. It is not as simple as walking in a store and buying a pack of cigs. Wish I could tell you it is, but it is not. But the benefits far outweigh some extra time/and or money you might spend learning.
The best to you, no matter what you decide.
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