E-cig retailers in Hawaii or Las Vegas?

[mikea]

A friend's father wants to quit smoking, so I suggested e-cigarettes. My friend said his father hadn't heard of e-cigs before, and is interested. He lives in Hawaii (not sure which island). Does Hawaii have any e-cig retailers -- actual stores as opposed to overpriced mall-based kiosks?

He was in Las Vegas recently and saw some e-cigs at a kiosk in a mall. Fortunately, he didn't buy anything there. He'll be back in Vegas in a couple of months. Anyone know of any actual retailers there?

I learned of one LV seller that has a web site -- ujustpuff.com -- and thought I would order a small quantity of juice from them to see what their flavors are like. Despite some (apparent) bugs in their shopping cart, I managed to put together a small order and went to the check-out page -- where I saw a notice reading Minimum order is $100. Please continue shopping.

Uh, howzat again? That's the only e-cig vendor I've ever seen on-line that had a $100 min. order. Not goin' for that. I emptied the cart and left.

Any other retail shops for e-cigs in LV?

TIA . . .

 

[lordmage]

moving to the suppliers forum so they can answer directly as well

 

[vt100]

Volcano e-cigs are based in Hawaii, I don't know if they have retail locations. I bet shipping would be fast though. I won't post the link as one of their employees(?) has been posting as a regular member. They do have a 1 year warranty and reasonable prices.

 

[catholic83]

ecigsmokestore.com is here in las vegas....

 

[mikea]

ecigsmokestore.com is here in las vegas....

Unless their web site shows only part of the product line (or unless I missed something obvious on the site) -- they have DIY products but not e-cigs.

 

[catholic83]

they will have kits very very soon... it should be before you friend gets here in vegas cause you said a couple of months right?

 

[jimmybat]

IF you call Dawn Marie on the number from the ecigsmokestore.com she will do you a great deal you wont be sorry hope that helps you

 

[mikea]

they will have kits very very soon... it should be before you friend gets here in vegas cause you said a couple of months right?

Probably not until December.

But then the son of the guy who wants to quit came up with something downright diabolical. The man who wants to quit is crazy about his very young grandson. But the mother and father have said: if you're going to be smoking, you can't be around the kid, period. So it's the cigarettes versus being able to hang out with the grandchild. "Here, carry the baby for a while. Remember, you can't do that while you're smoking." It'll always be Grandchild 1, Cigarettes 0.

Clever. So who knows if he'll be needing e-cigs at all!

 

[sherid]

Probably not until December.

But then the son of the guy who wants to quit came up with something downright diabolical. The man who wants to quit is crazy about his very young grandson. But the mother and father have said: if you're going to be smoking, you can't be around the kid, period. So it's the cigarettes versus being able to hang out with the grandchild. "Here, carry the baby for a while. Remember, you can't do that while you're smoking." It'll always be Grandchild 1, Cigarettes 0.

Clever. So who knows if he'll be needing e-cigs at all!

Anyone who denies a grandparent and the grandchild a relationship based upon smoking is a despicable human being. I am assuming that the grandfather would not be smoking while holding the child or while the child is in the same room, but to deny him seeing the child because he smokes is outrageous. I loved my own grandmother, a chain smoker, and I cannot imagine being kept from her simply because she was a smoker. People like that will not be appeased with vaping BTW

 

[mikea]

Anyone who denies a grandparent and the grandchild a relationship based upon smoking is a despicable human being. I am assuming that the grandfather would not be smoking while holding the child or while the child is in the same room, but to deny him seeing the child because he smokes is outrageous. I loved my own grandmother, a chain smoker, and I cannot imagine being kept from her simply because she was a smoker. People like that will not be appeased with vaping BTW

No, that's not it at all. It isn't a matter of: stop smoking or you can't ever see the kid. It's: you can't sit next to the kid while you're smoking, and you can't go walking around, carrying him, while you're smoking. Lots of people who aren't nazi-esque about smoking nevertheless don't want smoke wafting into their kids' faces. No idea how they'll react to 'vaping' if he does get into it. IAC the situation isn't as dire as you've described it.

 

[sherid]

No, that's not it at all. It isn't a matter of: stop smoking or you can't ever see the kid. It's: you can't sit next to the kid while you're smoking, and you can't go walking around, carrying him, while you're smoking. Lots of people who aren't nazi-esque about smoking nevertheless don't want smoke wafting into their kids' faces. No idea how they'll react to 'vaping' if he does get into it. IAC the situation isn't as dire as you've described it.

Glad to hear these people are not complete NAZIS about it. However, it most certainly IS as dire as I described. ASH provides legal help to get custody from a smoking parent, based solely on smoking status. Considering ASH's stance on e cigs, they would include vaping as a custody issue. In the UK, smokers are not allowed to adopt or foster children. I assume the same will soon be true of vapers as the UK and ASH are so tight. All issues that affect smokers will also affect vapers unlesss someone STOPS them.

 

[mikea]

Glad to hear these people are not complete NAZIS about it. However, it most certainly IS as dire as I described. ASH provides legal help to get custody from a smoking parent, based solely on smoking status. Considering ASH's stance on e cigs, they would include vaping as a custody issue. In the UK, smokers are not allowed to adopt or foster children. I assume the same will soon be true of vapers as the UK and ASH are so tight. All issues that affect smokers will also affect vapers unlesss someone STOPS them.

You're right -- what you're describing is dire and awful -- and I don't think "nazi-esque" is too strong a term for it. The reason I think so is that the Nazis were intensely concerned with purity, and the fanatical anti-smoking and anti-vaping crowd strike me as being also intensely concerned with purity (masquerading as a concern for everyone's health -- but I think there is a pathological puritanism in it as well, with an alarming lust for control over other people that is apparent in extremists of the Left and the Right alike; the current administration is no exception, alas). The concept of "educate -- don't coerce" is alien to them. They do not look upon "the impure" as people who have any rights to speak of -- unless we're talking about the "right" to submit...to them.

Obsession with purity and willingness to coerce and punish "the impure" are illustrated very effectively in an outstanding documentary called The Architecture of Doom. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Run, don't walk, to rent that DVD. The documentary is about the Third Reich, but I think there are parallels w.r.t. modern puritanical personalities, especially the coercive ones, as well. Let's not forget history -- lest we be forced to re-live it. (My wife and I were so impressed by The Architecture of Doom that we bought the thing.)

The family I've been referring to surely don't suffer from some weird puritan-esque psychopathology. I think they just don't want the baby breathing in any smoke. That, I can totally understand. If a "side" benefit is to help their father cut down on his cigarette intake -- so much the better.

I seem to have gotten the father at least slightly interested in the idea of vaping, so I'm going to try steering him toward some e-cig products that might help him get off tobacco...