E-juices are the secret

[quovadis]

I have only been vaping for a few days now, but it seems that the e juice selection the most important aspect of this whole operation.
When i first joined, i was extremely worried about what piece of hardware to buy.
Now that i have bought a few models of e-cigs which all work more or less well, the important thing is to find the perfect e-juice that will help me quit smoking analogs.
This is not easy. Some are too strong and harsh, some are too pungent and sickening, some are too weak in nic, and so on and so forth.

In order to have the vastest variety of choices, I have found the 3 main Chinese suppliers that supply 99% of all e-juices.
They sent me a long list of different e-juices.
I ordered 10ml bottles of every flavor from each company, that's around 450 small bottles. Each bottle is $0.7.

What i did notice is that all 3 companies are very paranoid about sending these liquids to the USA.
I suggested they use my DHL account, but they wanted to use regular mail.
In the end i convinced them to use DHL, and to write "Aromatherapy samples" on the commercial invoice.
Hopefully in a few days i will get all this stuff.
I will try to select some really nice ones and keep you guys posted with results.
Then again, i may be dreaming, the customs officer may just smoke my aromatherapy samples himself.

 

[Elendil]

I have only been vaping for a few days now, but it seems that the e juice selection the most important aspect of this whole operation.

Battery is actually the most important aspect. If you buy unflavored juice you can add your own flavors to taste...........

 

[wv2win]

Battery is actually the most important aspect. If you buy unflavored juice you can add your own flavors to taste...........

........+1

 

[Zofryer]

I have only been vaping for a few days now....

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Kent <---

Also, even though I'm not a huge Johnson Creek fan, their Original Tobacco flavor is close, and a lot of people like it.

You are definitely going to want to drip those flavors, or it will take forever. Good luck. As a recent ex-smoker, it normally plays out like this:

First Week:

I like things that taste kinda like tobacco, especially this one because it's like my old brand.

Second Week:

omfg, my tastebuds are changing. I have a new favorite every day

Third Week:

Yanno, I don't HAVE to have just one favorite. There's at least ten flavors I like better than anything I've ever set fire to.

Fourth Week:

I'm partial to (pick one) Fruity/Tobaccoy. And I like _____ the best out of those, but I'm going to keep some of these ten flavors because I'm not locked into one flavor. I'm free. I'm not just maintaining an addiction anymore. I'm actually enjoying this immensely.

Hope this helps.

 

[Tori]

Battery is actually the most important aspect. If you buy unflavored juice you can add your own flavors to taste...........

soooo true as I'm finding out... the juice is the simple part lol

 

[sund79]

what do you mean by the battery being the most important part? ( i would have thought atomizer, but i'm new too...so..)

 

[Flitzanu]

i think the most important part is your lips. without those you fail at vaping.

you ordered 450 bottles?

 

[quovadis]

I think he means that you can mix and match your juices to fit your taste by adding nicotine and flavoring to the virgin liquid. Hence you have the ability to control e-liquids.

I'm not sure what the battery has to do with this?

Maybe he means that if the battery is not fully charged the hardware performs badly?

One other thing.
When i first started on the forum most people said this vaping stuff was not the same as analogs.
True it's not the same but it's pretty darn close.
1. Your are holding a cigarette-like item
2. placing in mouth and inhaling
3. throat and lung hit (personally i think the lung hit is larger than the throat hit)
4. you exhale vapor that looks like smoke.

I really do think it's pretty close. In fact , the throat and lung hits are quite similar to analogs in tactile sensation.

It's all good...
Obviously a little more organization is involved, but all good things come at a price.

 

[Circuit]

I think they're referring to battery life - how many vapes until you get to the center of a...something like that.

As a new vaper, the juice is important to me too. The flavor can satisfy those urges for an analog. Initially, at least, if you're trying to get off the analogs, it seems logical to me that trading it for an e-cig with a tobacco flavor similar to your previous brand will help you ween yourself slowly.

I have a few bottles of Ecopure, and a bottle of RY4, and I crave the taste of an analog. Even if I only vaped it a couple times a day, it would make things easier (although, I'm going on 36 hours on no analogs, and only have very minimal cravings).

 

[quovadis]

Dude!!
36 hours...that's good.
One hour at a time!!

 

[Meltbanana]

Atomizers are the most important part to me...they control how warm the vapor is, throat hit, how much vapor actually comes out, how much flavor you get from your juice, and consistancy of each hit.

A powerful battery and great juice can still be disapointing with a bad atomizer.

Anywho, your taste buds may change the longer you vape. When I was new to vaping I prefered tobacco flavors of my old brands, but now I'm liking more exotic flavors like cappucino and rum. Most tobacco flavors now seem weak and boring to me.

 

[Robert]

The Battery he is refering to - is a bigger battery - see his Signature- that is a Janty stick- it uses bigger batteries- some people around here have bigger batteries in modded PV's the 510 bat is what 3.7 volts well his Janty stick is 4.5 volts I think- some sd, Prodgigys and GG are 5 to 6 volts. More volts equlals bigger vaper and if you don't know what those last 3 PV's were you haven't done enought research here..

for me my 3,7 volts is fine but I also need good juice, so I am definetly not going cheap again. I will not buy juice from China.

I smoked Premium Cigarettes and I am only going to Vape Premium Juice, and yes I know it all comes from China but here in America we care what stuff taste like and there are companies here that are improving the chineese juice and reselling something I want!

 

[Zofryer]

Seasonal midwestern muskrat injected nitrous oxide tainted valve compressors are the most important thing!!!!! I SWEAR

Your tastebuds...
Your lungs...
Your preferences...
The particular way tobacco has completely #@#$'d your pleasure centers of your brain.

It's a hundred things, but most importantly, much like an ... trip, it's what you think it's going to be since this all falls into the realm of high octane alkaloids.

If YOU are convinced that the Juice is the one ring that rules them all, then by GOD it will be. The important thing is, you'll find your linus blanky that leads you away from tobacco if you want to. All the ingredients are there. You already seem to have a battle cry and mantra. Keep yours, and humor yourself with ours. Yours is a fun one.

 

[Boredoftheworld]

I smoked Premium Cigarettes and I am only going to Vape Premium Juice, and yes I know it all comes from China but here in America we care what stuff taste like and there are companies here that are improving the chineese juice and reselling something I want!

Several things are driving me nuts, none of them in a good way.

There's been quite a bit of Chinese bashing going on and a lot of it is just jingoism. In the general discussion forum someone said that ordering from China was always a little "shady". Some of it is borderline racism, I don't know how else to look at "in America we care what stuff taste [sic] like". I'm sure it wasn't meant that way, it couldn't have been, people don't think like that anymore.

Beyond that, I'm seeing a lot of claims that just don't match up with my own experience or what's showing up in the subforums of the Chinese suppliers. Yeah, that's another thing, there are at least 2 Chinese companies that are sponsoring suppliers of this forum, for the life of me I can't understand why they put up with the kind of stuff that goes on around here sometimes. Go look in the Chinese supplier subforums, consumers are just as happy with the delivery speed, customer service and warranties as people are in the US supplier subforums.

What I want to know is which US companies are buying bottles for resale, which US companies are buying bulk liquid and rebottling it, which US companies are buying flavorless liquid in bulk and then flavoring and rebottling it and which US companies are brewing their own from the ground up.

I don't want to spend $30 on a 30ml bottle that someone bought by the crateload that's identical in every way to what I could buy from a Chinese company for $10. I also don't want to spend $15 on a 30ml bottle that someone filled from a metric assload that's sitting in his garage. I'm not really thrilled by the idea of buying a bottle of juice at any price from someone who's mixing flavors in his kitchen.

Come to that, unless a US company can certify in some way exactly how their juice is handled in a way that is even remotely as impressive as Dekang (I just googled them, good grief) then I don't think we Americans have anything to crow about.

I think, for the good of the community, and for the industry, there should be a master list of who's getting what from where and what level of reprocessing is happening before the final product is shipped to the consumer. We don't accept any less from any other product we ingest, inject or inhale. Considering the scrutiny the entire ecig concept is going to endure as tobacco taxes continue to rise and more people look for alternatives to their smoking habit I don't think we can afford any less than that.

 

[Robert]

Anyone interested

Please send me your address and I will send you 5 ml in a ziplock bag of what I just got from Ruyan uou can test it yourself

and You can read about it here- http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/26771-horible-metalic-tasting-juice.html

 

[DC2]

which US companies are brewing their own from the ground up.

I believe Johnson Creek is the only one.

I don't really care what freaking country I buy juice from.
But I do care what is in the juice I buy.

Johnson Creek says exactly what is in their juices.
There is something to be said for that.

-Propylene Glycol
-Glycerol
-Distilled water
-Nicotine
-Vegetable Glycerin
-Natural and Artificial flavors

It isn't being (necessarily) jingoistic to feel comfortable with what you are inhaling.
Especially when there are track records of various things in the paint of children's toys and such.

I've seen disclosures of what is in the juices of other manufacturers.
And the lists are often well over 15 ingredients long.

And some of them have names like benzopontificate and aluminasalpassage.

 

[Robert]

Several things are driving me nuts, none of them in a good way.

There's been quite a bit of Chinese bashing going on- Some of it is borderline racism, I don't know how else to look at "in America we care what stuff taste [sic] like". I'm sure it wasn't meant that way, it couldn't have been, people don't think like that anymore

I meant it exactly the way it sound- I am an American- I have American taste buds that like - Hamburgers, Pepsi, Potatoe Chips, and Marlboros

Now have you ever had Hamburgers, Pepsi, Potatoe Chips, and Marlboros in Tijuana, Mexico or some other country? The labels may all be the same but the taste is not.

Send me your address and I will send you 5ml of the juice I just got from Ruyan- it horible and gave me a bad headache- and it's yours for free. If I was a China basher I never would have ordered from them in the first place.

 

[nitewriter]

To the OP, these Chinese companies ship supplies to the US every day and they know the best method of transport. You may wish you had stuck with USPS, because DHL has refused all shipments of e-cigs.

Good luck

 

[Boredoftheworld]

I've seen disclosures of what is in the juices of other manufacturers.
And the lists are often well over 15 ingredients long.

And some of them have names like benzopontificate and aluminasalpassage.

The jingoism to which I was referring was the statement that "buying from China is always shady", what, we're not up to our necks in criminals and idiots running businesses over here? My bank, previous mortgage company and both credit card companies I use all collapsed, failed or imploded this year due to criminal idiocy, to my knowledge they were all proudly and pointedly American and not even remotely Chinese.

FWIW I was eleven when lead paint was outlawed in the US, I believe we were about half a century behind the major European nations in doing that.

But yes, I think we should know exactly what's in what we're inhaling. I think we should know how the product is being handled, prepared and packaged. I think we need to know what metal is being used in the production of the ecigs themselves. I have some concerns about the plastic cartridges come to think of it.

My wife recently emailed our congressman about something completely unrelated and received an actual response that required someone in his office to go look stuff up and I thought, this guy is actually paying attention, maybe I should write an email to him about this whole ecig thing. I started thinking about the kind of questions he'd want answers to and realized I didn't have many answers, then we had a few threads around here where figurative rocks were lobbed at the Chinese... the people who supply ALL of our atomizers, most of our batteries, most of our juice and almost all of our accessories like PCCs and passthrus.

But even if we manage to nail down a paper trail for everything that comes from China to the US we still have a massive number of US suppliers distributing stuff and while I doubt anyone is sneezing into atomizers before shipping them out to us I have absolutely no idea what they're doing with the juice between the time they receive it until they ship it.

 

[Robert]

FWIW I was eleven when lead paint was outlawed in the US, I believe we were about half a century behind the major European nations in doing that.

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There is a big differance in banning all led paint and using led paint on childrens toys.

Poison Toothpaste- The Chineese made toothpaste with anti freeze in it. The Goverment official who took bribes was a member of there FDA- he was EXECUTED !

Poison in Pet Food to make more MONEY

The best thing I found out is Johnsons Creek is made here in the USA. At least I can walk up to the factory and start shooting a bunch of people if I do get some wierd affliction from vaping nicotine juice! ha lol Chineese bashing you still are 11 Sir.

We all want to stop smoking so bad- well I just got juice from china that seemed like vaping poison- and if you want some send me you f@cking address.

Ruyan Direct has asked me to let others try it. Not please send it back so we can test it, give it to your friends, so you want to try it friend?