E-liquid base vendors in EU

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Greets,

Can anyone recommend decent vendors that are located in EU and offer pre-mixed e-liquid bases?
So far I've found a few, but every single one of them have had some "problems".
Looking for a 75VG/25PG mix with 6mg/ml of nicotine and so far it seems that no one has it. :(

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Thanks! Will give these two a look!
Any other suggestions?

I'd consider getting both VG and PG separately, but I'm really not a fan of the idea of messing around with pure nicotine just yet... (I'm just starting out :))
Might be a little off topic, but perhaps someone can answer a question regarding H2O instead of PG? Pros, cons?
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Thanks! Will give these two a look!
Any other suggestions?

I'd consider getting both VG and PG separately, but I'm really not a fan of the idea of messing around with pure nicotine just yet... (I'm just starting out :))
Might be a little off topic, but perhaps someone can answer a question regarding H2O instead of PG? Pros, cons?
Thanks!

Don't mess with pure nicotine! That stuff can be lethal.

Get yourself a high nicotine base. I use 72 mg/ml as a absolute maximum. Pure nico will sell as 990 or 999 mg/ml.

For a good high nic base look at hisvape.net.
 

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Don't mess with pure nicotine! That stuff can be lethal.

Get yourself a high nicotine base. I use 72 mg/ml as a absolute maximum. Pure nico will sell as 990 or 999 mg/ml.

For a good high nic base look at hisvape.net.

I hear ya! That's why I want to stay away from pure nicotine and order a pre-mixed base, with nic already in the mix. 72mg/ml is a total overkill, when all I need is 6ml/mg... I don't see any reason why I should bother with dilluting a pre-mixed base to get the right nic content, when I can order one right away.
One thing I did understand today, is the fact that I had not taken into account that flavours/essences are PG based as well, which means that after mixing in the flavour, the 75/25 base in no longer 75/25... guess I have some more reading to do, before I can actually figure out what I have to order... :)
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One thing I did understand today, is the fact that I had not taken into account that flavours/essences are PG based as well, which means that after mixing in the flavour, the 75/25 base in no longer 75/25... guess I have some more reading to do, before I can actually figure out what I have to order... :)
Thanks everyone!

Not only will the PG/VG ratio change, depending on the recipe your nic will also drop. Some of the DIY or clone recipies will require up to 20% of flavours.
 

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Not only will the PG/VG ratio change, depending on the recipe your nic will also drop. Some of the DIY or clone recipies will require up to 20% of flavours.

Is it uncommon to get flavours with added nic? So far, I've looked into Pink Mule's offerings and for some flavours you can choose the desired nic level, just like you would choose when ordering the base. Also, for some flavours they suggest you mix it with 100% VG, to end up with "recommended" propotions of VG/PG and nic.

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One thing I did understand today, is the fact that I had not taken into account that flavours/essences are PG based as well, which means that after mixing in the flavour, the 75/25 base in no longer 75/25... guess I have some more reading to do, before I can actually figure out what I have to order... :)
Thanks everyone!

Do you really think the PG that comes with a (hopefully) not very big amount of flavour is that important? Are you sure you can taste the difference between 70:20:10 and 60:30:10 ....

Anyway, a European producer I trust (and buy from), his ready VPG nic bases are 60:30:10, is --> this one.
 

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Do you really think the PG that comes with a (hopefully) not very big amount of flavour is that important? Are you sure you can taste the difference between 70:20:10 and 60:30:10 ....

Anyway, a European producer I trust (and buy from), his ready VPG nic bases are 60:30:10, is --> this one.

Certainly not...
I'm actually just waiting for my first mod box and tank to arrive, heh. Until then I'm just shuffling around and soaking up what information I can. From what I've read so far, for nice clouds and flavour on sub-ohm tanks, juice with VG above 70 is recommended. Hence I'm pretty much focused on that number as my starting point and from there I can experiment and look what my personal prefrences are.
Thanks for the link!
 

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Oh sorry my bad - normally people specify the base "PG:VG:water" (I mean, PG first ;-). This is why I read your 75:25 as PG:VG which it is not, sorry.

VG makes vapor, yes. But for flavor, PG is better. On the whole, there are so many components that play a role for optimum vape - the PG-VG ratio is really only one of them and maybe not really the most important one. As a rule of thumb, subohm/hot vaping usually means less intensive flavor.
 
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