e-liquid manufacturer - supply over 90% of the e-liquid on the market

[lordmage]

well i got this to say in the least they have been more open about their product and company then most just to bad that they could not get permission from their customers to list them here so we could have an official list of places to get their official juice from. besides their uk sales arm. what about a us sales arm or are you waiting for fda approval.

 

[wegster]

It's not uncommon to not list your customers, it can technically be seen as a breach of contract for many OE type of deals.

Either way, bumping this, as I am hoping Dekang continues to post back in this thread, and appreciate the info we've gotten so far from them.

 

[scintar]

It's not uncommon to not list your customers, it can technically be seen as a breach of contract for many OE type of deals.

Either way, bumping this, as I am hoping Dekang continues to post back in this thread, and appreciate the info we've gotten so far from them.

Dekang had stopped answering in the forum. Their supplier in the UK is answering for them now. I don't know if your gonna get what your looking for here.

 

[The Rain Man]

why do you think

Dekang had stopped answering in the forum. Their supplier in the UK is answering for them now. I don't know if your gonna get what your looking for here.

 

[dekang]

Dekang had stopped answering in the forum. Their supplier in the UK is answering for them now. I don't know if your gonna get what your looking for here.

Sorry, I have been quite busy recently. We will continue to answer questions on this thread. Y&C TECH (ecisdirect.com) is not our supplier, but part of DEKANG. Our UK subsidy is an important arm to our company; they provide services to our client in their time zone.

 

[dekang]

It's not uncommon to not list your customers, it can technically be seen as a breach of contract for many OE type of deals.

Either way, bumping this, as I am hoping Dekang continues to post back in this thread, and appreciate the info we've gotten so far from them.

Thank you for your support

 

[dekang]

That reads interesting. May I ask for some explanation of what this actually means? Does it refer to accomplishments regarding consumer safety, such as a certification of compliance with LFGB requirements? Or does it refer to the as yet open question of legal classification? Has it been established if Dekang's products fall under the scope of LFGB [German law on food and consumer goods], not under the scope of MPG [German law on medical products]? I would appreciate if could elaborate on this point.

We have passed German's LFGB (Food and Feed code) test. The test was carried out by TUV Rheinland, an US FDA accredited testing centre for food and medical devices. The test show our products are compliant with LFGB requirment. With these results, our next step will be to apply for German approval.

 

[dekang]

Dekang,
Although your posts seem authentic and sincere, I am quuite skeptical of your authenticity....I am not trying to direspect you but your statements are getting a touch absurd...There are quite a few sources of eliquid in the world, and the technology to mix nicotine is far from unobtainable in labratories throughout USA and can be contracted for reasonable fees...I do respect your intentions in coming to ECF and discussing your policies, but after scanning this thread I am unable to find any clean cut answers.
Best Regards
Drew

It is possible to obtain synethic laboratory grade nicotine from certain sources. Athought in high purity, laboratory grade are not consumable, as are products made in non-food laboratory.

 

[dekang]

well i got this to say in the least they have been more open about their product and company then most just to bad that they could not get permission from their customers to list them here so we could have an official list of places to get their official juice from. besides their uk sales arm. what about a us sales arm or are you waiting for fda approval.

We currently do not have plan to start a US sales arm. However, we are keen to working directly with suppliers in the US.

 

[Tom09]

We have passed German's LFGB (Food and Feed code) test. The test was carried out by TUV Rheinland, an US FDA accredited testing centre for food and medical devices. The test show our products are compliant with LFGB requirment. With these results, our next step will be to apply for German approval.

Thanks for reply and the exceptional good news, the certification of compliance. Next step, approval within the LFBG framework (and avoiding the medical trap) would be huge! I certainly hope you’ll succeed. Can’t continue to type, have to keep all my fingers crossed for you. Thanks again, please keep us updated.

 

[Tom09]

test show our products are compliant with LFGB requirment.

Btw, you might think about putting up a certification of LFBG compliance on your web page. Would be much more convincing than a certification for just a sheet of paper (referring to the SGS report certifying accordance of the cherry flavor MSDS/SDS sheet with certain regulations). All the best.

 

[nitewriter]

I have a few questions:

What is the difference between being LFBG "compliant" and being LFBG "certified"? Is it similar to the difference between ISO compliant or certified? If so, there is a difference.

By eliminating the 36mg liquid, does that mean the the FDA has contacted Dekang, or vice-versa? Are they are working together to do testing for future approval? Has there been any conversation between Dekang and the FDA? Or are they dropping the 36mg for approval elsewhere?

I'm sorry if I've overlooked it, but I've also not seen anything anywhere on Dekang's return policies? I purchase in larger ammounts and would hate to get stuck with a bunch that was an order mix-up, or just not to my taste buds.

Thanks in advance

 

[wegster]

It is possible to obtain synethic laboratory grade nicotine from certain sources. Athought in high purity, laboratory grade are not consumable, as are products made in non-food laboratory.

Hi,

Can you explain more on this? Is this due to regulation, or actual danger/inappropriateness of use? While I'll agree that my *preference* would be to buy, say, 48mg unflavored from you, sealed in a bottle, assembled in lab conditions (but even your pictures show e-cig cart fills done by bare handed people..), I'm unsure what the basis of this statement is.. ??


Also, can you tell us anything about flavorings, anything that has been found to be 'unsafe,' or general guidelines?

What about the use of VG/Vegetable glycerin/glycerin/glycerol versus Propylene glycol, or PEG400?

Thanks..

 

[dekang]

I have a few questions:

What is the difference between being LFBG "compliant" and being LFBG "certified"? Is it similar to the difference between ISO compliant or certified? If so, there is a difference.

By eliminating the 36mg liquid, does that mean the the FDA has contacted Dekang, or vice-versa? Are they are working together to do testing for future approval? Has there been any conversation between Dekang and the FDA? Or are they dropping the 36mg for approval elsewhere?

I'm sorry if I've overlooked it, but I've also not seen anything anywhere on Dekang's return policies? I purchase in larger ammounts and would hate to get stuck with a bunch that was an order mix-up, or just not to my taste buds.

Thanks in advance

In addition to the 5 inches thick application form that our lawyers complete for approval, we also need supporting evidences that our product is safe and meets the legal standard of that country. FDA/Food agency accredits testing centers for carrying out such examinations.

By being German LFGB complaint means we meet the standard of German's LFGB, as shown by our test results. We are not certificated yet because we are still in the application stage. I hope this makes sense.

Other questions have already been answered earlier on in this thread

 

[Moonlighter]

Welcome to the forum Hank Yao.
My name is Deb. My concern as a new e cigarette user has been the safety of the juice I have started to use.
I am used to things being safety sealed and dated with ingredients listed on the labels.
I worry right now when I order from a new Internet business if the company is re-bottling the juice in their garage. I like clean sanitary factories with clean equipment.
I don't know who you bottle your product for and if you bottle it or they order from you and re-bottle it. If you sell and label to resellers, I think it would be lovely of you to share who you bottle for so we can have a sense of safety about the bottling process.
That is my biggest concern as a consumer. Other people have mentioned that all bottles should have safety type seals and have warning label because of the nicotine.
As far as suggestions for new flavorings go --
I am mixing Loranns(brand) of flavoring called Chocolate/hazelnut into a mixture of chocolate, vanilla and a little coffee e-juices to get a flavor that I love.
I don't know if you would want to mix those up and see what you come up with.
My version gives me a smell-taste of Baileys Irish Cream liqueur.

 

[dekang]

Hi,

Can you explain more on this? Is this due to regulation, or actual danger/inappropriateness of use? While I'll agree that my *preference* would be to buy, say, 48mg unflavored from you, sealed in a bottle, assembled in lab conditions (but even your pictures show e-cig cart fills done by bare handed people..), I'm unsure what the basis of this statement is.. ??


Also, can you tell us anything about flavorings, anything that has been found to be 'unsafe,' or general guidelines?

What about the use of VG/Vegetable glycerin/glycerin/glycerol versus Propylene glycol, or PEG400?

Thanks..

Laboratory grade products are made for scientific research only. They are not meant to be consumed - as seen on the warning by laboratory suppliers. In addition, the purchase of these products, especially nicotine, requires a license. The reason behind are concerns of contamination. Products are made in the same area and purified on the same machines as other potentially toxic chemicals. In fact, manufacturer has warned not to eat, drink or smoke when using this product.

Pasted below are some warnings on the use of laboratory nicotine by a leading laboratory chemical manufacturer

For research purpose only.
Keep container tightly closed in a cool place
Keep in a cool well-ventilated place away from ... (incompatible materials to be indicated by manufacturer)
Keep only in the original container in a cool well-ventilated place away from ... (incompatible materials to be indicated by manufacturer)
When using, do not eat, drink or smoke
Avoid contact with skin and eyes
After contact with skin, take off immediately all contaminated clothing and wash immediately with plenty of.... (to be specified by the manufacturer)
Do not empty into drains, dispose of this material and its container to hazardous or special waste-collection point
Wear suitable protective clothing, gloves and eye/face protection

Given the tight regulation in the US (as I have been told), the origin of the nicotine may not even be laboratory grade.

 

[dekang]

This thread is getting too long too read... I will start 2 new threads - one for consumers and one for suppliers.

 

[dekang]

The 2 new threads

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...er-all-your-e-liquid-questions-suppliers.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...er-all-your-e-liquid-questions-consumers.html

 

[dekang]

there was one questions asked by a lot of customers: So Dekang is the most guaranteed source of safe and good quality e-liquid, how to recognize that the retailers are buying from us?

Since the question was asked our management team has been working with our wholesale customers to make this easy: Now most of our customers use our e-liquid bottles! Our e-liquid bottle has a child-proof cap. There is YNDK carved on the cap if you look for it carefully. (YNDK stands for YunNan DeKang). We have four cap colours: Orange, Blue, Green, White. If you would like to see a picture of our eliquid, please go to my album or our UK retail website: ECIS Electronic Cigarette.

 

[ubiratamuniz]

Dekang,

a suggestion:

ECIS should offer the option to shipment with tracking. I purchased some e-liquid from them and they didn´t confirm shipping until I contacted them and figured out that there is no tracking on the package.