I finally convinced my folks to give the e-cig systems a second chance with "decent" workable battery systems. They, like us, tried a mini e brand name, not too hard to guess which ones. I wasn't able to give up cigs until I got my self and my wife an Ego and 510 set up with good batts that actually work and sent back my brand name mini crud batteries. I think that the Ego's and 510's are simple enough that they can use them to get rid of the analogs. Who are some great hardware suppliers for a 510 and an ego system? Thank you guys all in advance, great having this forum to get help!!!!