E2 Cartomizers?

[rmerriett]

So I have a GLV2 I just ordered on the way and I plan on using Cartomizers with it. However I'm seeing this new E2 Ceramic Cart and have no idea what it is compared to a regular cartomizer. Can someone shed some lite on this for me please

Thank You,

 

[misterD]

these are meant to be used on 3.7/4.2 devices only. 5v would taste burnt
they work great with a little tweak...

 

[arqin]

Many in our community in livejournal praise these Cartomizers.
If you are interested in describing feelings, you can read it here: http://community.livejournal.com/ru_ecig/379980.html
Only there is in Russian.

 

[ChuckB]

I've used a couple different revisions of them and have been mostly happy with them. The flavor and vapor is great with the juices I use. I haven't tried the XL yet, but probably will fairly soon, but as long as the regular ones last, I'm not really sure that the XL will be any improvement.

I carry a couple of extra mega batteries and a couple of spare CE2 cartos with me and I'm good to go for most of the day. Most of the ones I have are 2.4 - 2.6 ohms and work great on a regular 3.3volt battery. They can taste a little burnt on my nicostick if I hit it too hard. They are supposed to be shipping some at 3.0 and higher ohms soon and those should work on the 5volt batteries.

 

[AussieDoo]

Ive tried a few , have gone back to the original carto's not a fan of the new ones personally

 

[TrashcanCandy]

So I have a GLV2 I just ordered on the way and I plan on using Cartomizers with it. However I'm seeing this new E2 Ceramic Cart and have no idea what it is compared to a regular cartomizer. Can someone shed some lite on this for me please

Thank You,

Haha...all those responses and nobody even bothered to answer your simple question...
Ok, so your average cartomizers are a cartridge and atomizer in one unit. They have the outside metal part, filler material, and an atomizer wire. The filler is usually polyfill or something similar...it looks like cotton or stuffing out of a stuffed animal or something like that. There were issues with burning cartomizer filling, (I honestly believe this is due to some serious user error...I tested a few of my cartomizers and tried to burn them, and I couldn't even do it when I tried.) so the E2 Ceramic Cartos were born. They replaced the polyfill with a ceramic filler, which doesn't burn.

But in all honesty, I would not recommend them to a beginner. From what I've heard, they are a serious pain in the ... to get to work correctly, and you have to do a lot of modification. For this reason, I haven't even bothered trying them.

If I were you, I'd buy some inexpensive generic cartos to learn to fill until I got the hang of it, and then look for some nicer ones. Later on, if you really feel like messing around with trying to learn to fill and modify the complicated E2's, go for it. Just be aware that the design isn't perfected yet...I think it's a great concept, but if we wait a while they will probably be made better and we won't have to play around with them just to get them to work right.

 

[mutt4a]

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But in all honesty, I would not recommend them to a beginner. From what I've heard, they are a serious pain in the ... to get to work correctly, and you have to do a lot of modification. For this reason, I haven't even bothered trying them.

If I were you, I'd buy some inexpensive generic cartos to learn to fill until I got the hang of it, and then look for some nicer ones. Later on, if you really feel like messing around with trying to learn to fill and modify the complicated E2's, go for it. Just be aware that the design isn't perfected yet...I think it's a great concept, but if we wait a while they will probably be made better and we won't have to play around with them just to get them to work right.

You've summed up all the reasons I shied away from them in the begenning. And no I would not recommend them to a beginner at this point, because there is yet another revision coming out.

However, I've used several of the different types of cartomizers as well as tried direct dripping and using the cart. And while these cartomizers have had a number of technical and manufacturing issues it appears that a lot of those things have been both improved and maybe even resolved.

I would make this advise to users. If you're "all day vape" consists of a "thin, mostly PG based liquid", and if you find the existing cartomizer refilling less that adequate, and if you are not uncomfortable about using a syringe to complete the refills and if you dont mind the possibility of sinking $15 bucks into something that may still be in beta stages, you may want to give these a try. The upsides can be worth it.

The MFG seems to have worked very closely with members of the ECF community to improve this product, and has been responsive the sugguestions and crticism of this device. It has been developed/refined inthe open with involvement of the community. Have there been issues? Yes!!! But isnt this exactly the "model" of refinement we would like to see? This is beta equipment and experience, no doubt, but it is also IMHO one of the most promissing improvements to the E-Cig out there, and we should be open to it!

I for one am very happy with the R3 version. I now have 25 of these, and so far have not experienced any of the earlier issues, except when I used a thickger VG based juice, i had to tweak/thin it down a bit. I find the vaping taste and experience very similar to what I get with dripping, and I no longer carry anything with me but my charged ego with an XL CE2 cartomizer and feel comfortable that I havent spaced out and left my ciggies at home... (OK, yes there is a 510 passthru in the car with a atty and unopened pre-filled cart "just in case")..

 

[Poppa D]

I wrote this review outside of this forum, I hope it answers some of your questions and concerns.

This is a first impression, I received these today in the mail, and haven't used them for 24 hours yet. I'm fairly sure these are e2 v2 of these cartomizers, as that is what is stated on the info card included. They do have the ceramic atomizer. I did not use any mods that I have read about, and viewed on u-tube, I used them stock as they came.

These have a new learning curve that wasn't quite as user friendly as most cartomizers that I've used. That only require removing the mouth piece and filling, however you wish to do it.

Remove the mouth piece, and the second ring/seal, the third is the final seal is supposed to be left in and it has 2 holes by which it is filled. Place the provided soft tip needle in either of these holes and fill. The overflow will come out at the atomizer in the center and/or the second hole. Replace the removed parts and it is done. After I figured it out the first time, it was much easier after. Good lighting is a must as the 2 holes are small.

I received 2 of each XL/standard short.

Long XL 510 e2 v2, Tested with a Buzz at 3.7v up to 4.5v with 90/10
Just shy of 2 ml capacity. The long is the better of the two for the obvious reasons, more is better. But also it wicks faster, tastes true never burnt. Although it does have a slight dry taste, but I think that is due to an easier draw. The draw is pretty easy, maybe a touch to easy. Good juice longevity, nice construction. Tastes as good as dripping, maybe better due to consistency.

Standard Short 510 e2 v2, Tested with a Buzz at 3.7v with 80/20
Just shy of a 1ml, 2/3 the length of the XL, very close the the length of a 510 atty and drip tip, just a little shorter. Vapes very nice but seems to wick a little slow, can get a burnt hot taste if vaped heavily. I tried tipping it up side down to try and help it, with out modding it seems to run short of juice. The draw is quite a bit harder than the XL, it seems a bit stiff. Every bit as good as dripping, more consistent when its wicking well. A little hard to tell if its dry or not wet, a little annoying in that regard. The juice lasted about 4 hours.

FYI: Drip tip fits, and it can be dripped.

I will be looking for more of these, they are good. Apparently there is a v4 coming very soon and if it is better than these for wicking and rate of draw, the only real complaints that I have, these are going to be a treat to use.
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[tarheeldan]

My issue with common cartomizers is that I'm lazy and cheap. In order to keep them lasting long and keep the poly-fiber fill from degrading, they need to be kept wet. Or maybe I'm just a carto-killer. Anyway, after a day and a half of continuous use, my cartos were getting clogged.

I would take a paper clip in order to re-align the insides and have the air flow better for a while, but they'd get clogged again.

At $1.60 per carto, and knowing they're meant to be disposable, that's not so bad. But I'm cheap.

That's why I'm testing out these new E2's - the design to me means no degrading poly fill, and no air flow issues as time goes on.

If you're comfortable doing, say, a PTB mod to a regular cart then I don't think the simple mods to the E2 are a big step away from there.

What I did is use a paper clip or eyeglass screwdriver to pop off the 3 plugs (mouthpiece, middle ring, o ring). You can then fill the carto *without* a syringe by dripping down the sides. Rolled up or folded up PTB can be quickly added to the sides of the center cup by the wick to help wicking and prevent leaks. Then I just replaced the o ring flat side down against the cup, popped in a drip tip and good to go.

So, if you don't mind a process like above, these things seem to be pretty sweet. If you'd rather wait until the kinks are ironed out, Boge/SLB/etc. poly fill cartos are a good starting point to get acquainted with cartos and they may well last you longer than they do me with my cartomicidal tendencies lol. Either way, a drip tip instead of the white mouthpiece is a good idea in my opinion, so that you get less juice/condensation in the mouth.

Happy vaping!

 

[AmyB66]

I can't help with with the E2 but am posting for tarheeldan. I use the 510s and get about two three weeks before I toss them. I use them without the cap and a drip tip or no drip tip at all. Yep, keep them moist. The very second the flavor drops off, I add a few drops. Basically I top off all the time, similar to what someone would do with a regular cartomizer and atty except I can vape a bit longer and no juice mouth, flooding etc.
Best way is to remove the carto, top off till it drips out the bottom, give it a quick blow, wipe the end and you are good to go for a while. If I am at work, in the car or running around, I just add a couple drops to the carto filler. One piece, no primer, no burnt atty taste, easy to fill, no sucking juice into my mouth. I vape at 6 volts and have yet to fry one out. The first fill, pull the top off but leave the bottom silcon plug in, fill all the way to the top and slowly pull off the bottom plug which then draws the juice down. You can fill up alittle more mid pull. Gently blow out the excess and all is good.

I haven't played around with the E2's yet myself. I like simple and don't want to deal with syringes and all that stuff. Figured I'd sit back and wait a few more months. Maybe give myself a box of them towards the end of January when the mid winter boredom really kicks in.

I didn't answer the original poster, sorry. Try it if you can afford to be curious. It might work for you, it might not. The simpler the better for a new vaper and with all the new technology, simple gets confusing. Too complicated can lead to analog return. I struggled my first three months of vaping for something that would allow me to just 'smoke' without too much fiddling. Once you find that life is truly good.

 

[rmerriett]

Thanks everyone for the super informative posts!! I'm def not at the point of messing around too much and doing surgery on my cartos quite yet. I just can't stand dripping, and want the best option for refilling as little as possible, I am def a lazy vapor lol. Thanks again for all the info, this post is bound to help others besides me as well!! On a side note.... How often would you normally have to fill a reg Cartomizer on a 5v device? would it get me through two 20min brakes at work without refilling or topping off?

Rich

 

[kcinci]

I've ordered the 510 Mega XL E2 Cartomizer in black and silver today to use with my black eGO. I've got to do something - everything I've tried with standard 510 carts and atties and the Mega eGO carts has failed me, big time. I'm either dripping every 3-4 puffs or filling a cart every 10 minutes or sucking juice from the Mega cart and regular carts. It's driving me crazy !@#$ing with it all the time. I'm going to start looking for a bottom feeder to try but I can't spend any more on hardware till this time next month. Vaping since 8/18/10 and 2 weeks analog free today - but I'm struggling to stay functional with enough nicotine and be able to work through the day without having to mess with my PV all the time.

 

[AmyB66]

Just saturate the thing prior. Remove it from your device, fill till it leaks out the bottom. Shake it, blow out the little excess into a towel, wipe the bottom and you should get thru your breaks just fine. I keep a small bottle of liquid with me. Very lazy vaporer myself. LOL! I use a metal drip tip from COV because his come off and on without major tugging or I just don't use the tip at all and don't ever bother to replace the little white top, then I can add a drop in a second without having to remove the carto if I feel my flavor dropping off. As time has progressed, I am less sensitive to the drop of. With a high volt mod, I still get plenty of hit, it just tends to feel alittle 'dry'

So lazy to a new level is just not to have a cap or tip on it at all. If time and environment doesn't allow, you just add one or two drops right onto the fill and keep going. I guess you can leave a drip tip on but the liquid still gets trapped and I get juice mouth.
I keep it simple simple simple, which is what led to my success.

 

[misterD]

i think its well worth to spend 5 minutes tweeking a carto to get a day or close to it of vaping with great flavor, vapor and TH.

 

[Poppa D]

The cartomizers that are hitting the market recently are a treat to vape with.

The E2 V2 has a built in atomizer, juice tank, and it works very well. They are a bit of a learning curve to learn to fill, but way easier than riding a bike.

Cignot has genuine Joyetech cartomizers that are similar as they to have a built in atomizer, and a cart style holding tank. They require a syringe to fill.

If a syringe is unconventional to have around, you should be able to buy them prefilled and that would save you the effort, or possible frustration of filling them.

Get some prefilled E2 ceramics and take a couple to work. I think you'll like them better than the "old style" cartomizers.

 

[Taurox]

A regular cartomizer would fulfill your requirements. I have no doubt that cartomizer's will be improved again and again, I just don't think that the current version of the e2's are for me, they always taste burnt. I am faaaar to lazy to be doing all these tweaks and mods and replacements. That video is crazy... I mean maybe if someone was paying me to do it for them I might do all that but. Damn, I am tired just watching all that. I get my carto's I fill them up, I carry a few flavors with me, they last me all day. I come home I refill them they last me all evening , then I refill them that night for the next day. My refilling consists of taking a top off and dripping juice into them, and putting the top back on. I refill/top them twice a day to keep them wet, I have thrown out maybe 2 carto's in the past two months.

T

 

[mutt4a]

Sorry they aren't working as well for you Taurox, as they are for some of the rest of us.

I use them stright out of the box, and do not understand the upside of modding them? What "improvement" is this suppose to provide? If I perform this PTB mod what supposed to be improved?

 

[mutt4a]

I've ordered the 510 Mega XL E2 Cartomizer in black and silver today to use with my black eGO. I've got to do something - everything I've tried with standard 510 carts and atties and the Mega eGO carts has failed me, big time. I'm either dripping every 3-4 puffs or filling a cart every 10 minutes or sucking juice from the Mega cart and regular carts. It's driving me crazy !@#$ing with it all the time. I'm going to start looking for a bottom feeder to try but I can't spend any more on hardware till this time next month. Vaping since 8/18/10 and 2 weeks analog free today - but I'm struggling to stay functional with enough nicotine and be able to work through the day without having to mess with my PV all the time.

About where i was kcinci. The E2's did the trick for me. filled up 3 of them sunday (took about 15 mins), just did switch to the second one today!! I hope they work as well for you as they have for me.

 

[misterD]

hey, Taurox! you dont vape yer cartos on HV do you? cos after i fill my regular ones 3 times tops i have to trash them. but i do vape some sweet juices. could that be the reason?

 

[Taurox]

um 3.7 volts for when I am working and 5volt passthrough when I get home. I still have my first cartomizer, I used it everyday, 2-3 refills a day for over 1 month. After one month, I still didn't see any burnt inside and it still works. I retired it anyway, I felt kinda weird still using it. I also top them off way before you would get that "marshmallow" taste, I just keep them wet. I am trying to force myself to throw some away and use new ones. They really shouldn't be lasting me this long. heheh

Yeah I am kinda bummed my flavors don't seem to work on the ce2's. I have 7 of these still new in package. I have no doubt they will get a lot better, but I am going to wait until the kinks get worked out. I was never one to buy the newest greatest thing, I always felt like a paying beta tester.

T