E2 error, carto dying?

[JTman]

Ok, so I'm vaping a no name 510 carto with the filler crap in it (im waiting on new attys, ugh). The Provari tests it at 2.5 ohms. I set it at 4.2 volts and it hits for about 3 seconds until an e2 error shows. I checked the ohms again and it flashed 1.5 for a moment before changing to 2.5. I was vaping this thing at 4.8v yesterday. I have been slowly forced to reduce the voltage by .1-.2 every so often to avoid the E2 errors.

I'm assuming this is a problem with the carto. Is this just some kind of quirky behavior of a carto on it's last leg? Its performing like crap, but my options are very limited at the moment. Can anyone shed some light on this?

 

[crackbag]

sounds like its going out bro, but if a new one does it could be something wrong with the vari but doubtful

 

[JTman]

In my early days I just bought stuff from wherever. Now i am much more choosy about my hardware. I got some DSE 901s on the way as I am all about the flavor these days. I have heard such great things about them and I am eager to give them a shot. This carto, however, has been such a let down to say the least. I'm stuck at work it was the backup to my atty (another cheap no-name piece of crap) which just bit the dust at lunch.

The latest atomizer check now says 2.2 ohms and I now have it set to 3.7 volts to avoid the E2 error. Is this type of degredation typical? I sorta had something similar going on with an atty when I first got my provari but it was the opposite. The ohms were creeping up and I had to keep upping the voltage to keep it hitting well.

Edit: now getting E2 errors @ 3.7volts. I think I'll be tossing this in the garbage as soon as I get home. I guess I gotta break down and clean my clearomizers when I get home, they are all I have left. Figures, I have about 250ml of juice and almost nothing left to vape it all with.

 

[JTman]

Well, theres nothing wrong with my Provari. I finally found my KR808 adapter and put on some old cartos I had. They vaped awesome! 3.0ish ohms and vapes nice at 4.5v. Great flavor but muted TH. But I find I'm not craving TH as much as I used to.

So the old carto is in the garbage and I'm back to enjoying my vape!

 

[crackbag]

lol nice TH is over rated i want some warm good flavor to make me happy!

 

[hairball]

lol nice TH is over rated i want some warm good flavor to make me happy!

I agree crackbag. TH was something I never cared about. Just give me warm flavorful vapor and I'm happy.

 

[ScottinSoCal]

My craving for TH varies with the time of day. First thing in the morning I want a vape that lunges down my throat, kicks my tonsils a few times, and says WAKE THE *($! UP! Later in the day I want something cooler, but with good flavor. At night I want very cool, so I mostly go with menthol.

Fortunately for me, the ProVari handles all of it.

 

[JTman]

Am I just crazy or do I have high voltage vaping all wrong? is 3.4 ohms too low to vape at 5 volts? Does 7.4 watts just destroy atomizers? I was just refused a warranty because I used a 3.4 ohm 901 at 5.0 volts. I thought 10watts was the upper range, I thought 7-8 watts was safe. Am I mistaken? I'm just blown away by this. The vendor expects me to vape 3.4 ohms at 3.7 volts? (more like 3.4 or whatever the eGO actually puts out) Thats 4 watts, its weak, its why I wanted VV so I could acutally get some vaper. I dunno, I'm just very frustrated and angry by this.

 

[ScottinSoCal]

Am I just crazy or do I have high voltage vaping all wrong? is 3.4 ohms too low to vape at 5 volts?

I've never used anything higher than 2.5 ohm on my ProVari, and I rarely go lower than 4.0 volts - right now I'm doing 2.5 ohms at 4.2 volts. I would think a 3.4 ohm carto would be barely usable at 5.0 volts.

 

[JTman]

I've never used anything higher than 2.5 ohm on my ProVari, and I rarely go lower than 4.0 volts - right now I'm doing 2.5 ohms at 4.2 volts. I would think a 3.4 ohm carto would be barely usable at 5.0 volts.

Thats my line of thinking. The vendor wont honor their warranty because I told them I was vaping at 5volts. Who sells a 3.4 ohm atty as "regular" resistance? I thought "regular" was 2.5. Unless 901s have different rules than 510s. Are they more delicate and fragile? He says they are meant to be used at 3.3v which would be 3.2 watts. That is unvapable to me. I'll set the provari to 3.3 and try it out.... one moment please... Almost no vapor, zero TH and it feels like im sucking on a dead atty. I don't know how anyone could vape that and be satisfied. (Reminds me of using KR8 cartos on my standard 510 batt... in fact, thats exactly like it, tiny power to a huge resistance carto...)

Well, thanks for letting me vent at least. I'm ready to swear off atties for a while I guess. Time to try out the Boge cartos everyone seems to love. i also need to save up for a MAP tank, I do like the clearomizers mostly and I think the MAP will take care of the minor gripes I have. Its just the last week or so everything is dying. Cracked clearos, dying cartos, atties popping every day. I just cant seem to catch a break lately.

 

[Vaporologist]

I can't comment on your warranty issue but the standard resistance for 901 and 801 atties is at or slightly above 3.0 ohm. The "standard" resistance of 2.3 ohm is only applicable to the 510 series which was considered a lower resistance atty at the time it was first released. That's why you will see HV 510 atties rated between 3.0-3.5 ohm and HV 901s and 801s at or above 4.5 ohm.

 

[JTman]

I can't comment on your warranty issue but the standard resistance for 901 and 801 atties is at or slightly above 3.0 ohm. The "standard" resistance of 2.3 ohm is only applicable to the 510 series which was considered a lower resistance atty at the time it was first released. That's why you will see HV 510 atties rated between 3.0-3.5 ohm and HV 901s and 801s at or above 4.5 ohm.

Thank you, Vaporologist, for bringing that up. I guess I got so caught up in 510 (thats all I've ever really used) that I didn't think about differences like that. The burden of risk is on my shoulders to use something beyond its intended use. I feel bad for being angry at the vendor and I no longer feel this way. Just wanted to clear that up =)

So on that note. So I don't kill my 2nd 901. What voltage should I use it at? any suggestions?

 

[Vaporologist]

Thank you, Vaporologist, for bringing that up. I guess I got so caught up in 510 (thats all I've ever really used) that I didn't think about differences like that. The burden of risk is on my shoulders to use something beyond its intended use. I feel bad for being angry at the vendor and I no longer feel this way. Just wanted to clear that up =)

So on that note. So I don't kill my 2nd 901. What voltage should I use it at? any suggestions?

It's really hard to tell why your 901 atty died so quickly. IMO, 5V is definitely not too much voltage for that resistance atty. In fact, I personally couldn't use it with anything less than 5V and get the satisfaction I need. I've used them at 6V but that can be too much depending on what kind of juice you are using.

It's really challenging to offer advice in this area without specifically knowing your vaping habits. There is a possibility that you just got a "bad" atty and it was going to die quickly no matter what. We are talking about Chinese QC and on top of that it's SLB. But we also need to consider a possibility of user error. 901s are the most finicky when comparing to 801s and 510s IMO. There is a really fine line between adding just the right amount of juice or flooding them. So there is a chance that, without knowing it, you caused it to die prematurely. Maybe you kept it flooded for too long. Maybe you ran it dry for too long. Are you using a dark colored, thick juice, are you sitting on the button for too long, does the atty get too hot that you wouldn't be able tailpipe it, are you letting it properly cool off between taking hits..... There are just so many possibilities.

My advice would be to give it another try with your new 901. Maybe start it on a lower voltage and work your way up 5V during the day allowing the atty to properly break in. Don't take drags longer than maybe 5 seconds each with a little bit of time in between to allow the atty to cool off. Try tailpiping it temporarily. If it's too hot to touch your lips with, it's too hot to be vaped with. If you end up flooding it, rather than trying to work through it by vaping it, just blow the juice out into a napkin and start over. You will either fall in love with this atty or you will decide that maybe it's not for you. I guess you'll find out soon.

Let us know how it turns out for you. Good luck in finding your vaping nirvana!

 

[mwa102464]

The new Drip shields that keon from Empire sell are fabulous for just this situation, you can now flood your 901 and not have to worry about them leaking anymore, it's especially nice for running at voltages that may blow an Atty if not kept wet enough it works and looks marvelous on the Provari !!

 

[Tasteles]

I never could use cartos, never could get past the taste of the filler in them. I like dripping on a regular joy 510 atty at 4.6 volts, it has a 2.3 ohm resistance on the provari. After using it a few days the ohms drop a little, when it gets to 2.1 ohms it starts getting E2 error, then I have to rinse it out in hot water and do a dry burn at low volts to bring it back to 2.3 ohms again. After that it's fine for a few more days. I find that when the ohms start going up the atty is on it's last leg.

When I'm going to be driving any distance, I use my map tank with a 2.5 ohm CE2 at 4.2 volts, hard to drip while driving.