Eeesh

[silentt]

If I can put my hippie hat on, I would say this is seriously uncool. I know it's supply and demand but there's a point where profiting 100% on a fellow "vaping brother" reeks of unconsionable practice. Then again, what do i know, I'm an old hippie

I don't agree with what that person is doing at all. I feel it's hurting the community and giving a bad name to GG. People run over here to the forums and say it's impossible to get GG products because of the insane prices(classified prices).

If I was a millionaire(never going to happen).... everyone would have a GGTS and Ody

 

[Torqueguy]

Agreed. Its a judgement call, more moral and ethical than legal. Supply and demand is the fundamental law of a free market. The problem comes with gouging which is what this is. I leave it up to karma. I've noticed that the more I've done for people, the more "unexplainable Blessings" I've received. On the other hand, when I've been less than fair (in my younger days), I've never enjoyed my wins. Call it conscience, karma or what not. Always remember that time heals all wounds but also "time wounds all heels"

I don't agree with what that person is doing at all. I feel it's hurting the community and giving a bad name to GG. People run over here to the forums and say it's impossible to get GG products because of the insane prices(classified prices).

If I was a millionaire(never going to happen).... everyone would have a GGTS and Ody

 

[Killjoy1]

And I hope his heels are very sore . . .

 

[Torqueguy]

That's correct. We, the buyers should refuse to buy but with ecig stuff I notice much more impulse buying than other products. It could be that as ex-smokers, we feel this is justified? I'm guilty of buying more than I need and I'll pay a reasonable premium for something that's hard to get but I will not participate in gouging. What goes around comes around.
I think this hopefully is a good learning opportunity for the younger folks. How not to treat people or take advantage of them

I've noticed this with a few - the price is double the set price with a comment like, "My fingers are too big for it" (re:Ody) or whatever. I mean. If it's a spade, at least be a spade. "I bought this to resell because I knew people would pay double for it." It irritates me on behalf of the maker and the resellers, but here's the thing. The seller has something other people want and can't get via the resellers. If the others are willing to pay that because they really want it, then that's between them. Personally, I just won't do it. And, on the positive site, part of the appeal of buying GGs is that you know that if you don't like it, someone else will love it and you can sell it easily. For even more than you paid for it! To be honest, I wouldn't feel good about doing that - selling it for more than I paid - but most often, getting that "ethical" feeling isn't materially profitable. For the $ driven, profit is their ethical code, so... there we are. And if that were me, I'd buy a bunch of whatever and sell them on the classifieds.

 

[wigglr]

I remember before I got a GGTS, I was bitter about seeing it anywhere on ECF. Thankfully enough, Moshmarr sold me a NP GGTS for a great price, so I took the plunge. It is the best mod I have ever bought, and now that I am a part of the community I see the number of helpful and caring people greatly outnumber those who profit from the purchase. But from an outsiders perspective (and most people are) GG profiteering tarnishes its reputation.

Thankfully there are those people who do good. You all know who you are.

 

[Killjoy1]

I would happily be willing to pay a slight overage, even for a used item (and slightly damaged as is stated in his listing), if it were no longer being made and something I really wanted. I feel sorry for whatever poor sap is willing to pay that price rather than wait a couple months and buy a full kit brand new for less $

 

[Valsacar]

Link me.

It is not against the rules to sell things for whatever you can get it for, but if you are using the classifieds just to buy and resell then you are becoming a supplier. I can look into this if someone PMs me a link or posts it here.

 

[Para]

I remember before I got a GGTS, I was bitter about seeing it anywhere on ECF. Thankfully enough, Moshmarr sold me a NP GGTS for a great price, so I took the plunge. It is the best mod I have ever bought, and now that I am a part of the community I see the number of helpful and caring people greatly outnumber those who profit from the purchase. But from an outsiders perspective (and most people are) GG profiteering tarnishes its reputation.

Thankfully there are those people who do good. You all know who you are.

I disagree. People know Imeo has nothing to do with the prices on a Buy/Sell Forum. It has no more effect than does someone selling Super Bowl tickets for above the official price.....or the Final Four or a hot concert. If anything it enhances the GG rep for demanding a premium price.

 

[VPDownunder]

Agreed, I don't see it as tarnishing the GG's rep but it does tarnish the sellers name and insult both buyers and Imeo who sets the RRP. I know Imeo is making bugger all profit when he has to work and build these in Greece where production is expensive and in Euro to boot.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

Its supply and demand IMO.........

 

[rwechsler]

.::NOTE::. I refuse to pay a single cent above market value for the ceramic housing and o-rings, as it'd be an egregious insult to Imeo, Bruce, and the GG community as a whole to do business with any individual who buys unique GG parts with the intention of flipping them on the classies to make a quick buck. Such individuals shouldn't even be on this forum IMHO[/U][/B]

There's an excerpt from one of my WTB ads on the classies...
I think that demonstrates where I stand on the issue...

 

[wigglr]

I disagree. People know Imeo has nothing to do with the prices on a Buy/Sell Forum. It has no more effect than does someone selling Super Bowl tickets for above the official price.....or the Final Four or a hot concert. If anything it enhances the GG rep for demanding a premium price.

I think you are missing what I am saying. Before ever getting into GG's and learning about them, I saw a lot of UFS and GGTS at outrageous prices. That put a bad taste in my mouth in regard to GG. I NEVER mentioned Imeo.

 

[wigglr]

And dont' compare e-cigs to the Superbowl. The NFL is an 80+ year organization that has 1,000,000+ supporters. E-cigs? It is a different story.

 

[wigglr]

People lose their perspective.

 

[rwechsler]

I think you are missing what I am saying. Before ever getting into GG's and learning about them, I saw a lot of UFS and GGTS at outrageous prices. That made me think badly about GG. I NEVER mentioned Imeo.

Agreed. I don't think there's any esteem gained for Imeo or the GG line by people reselling devices for exorbitant prices. I almost didn't bother buying my first GGTS because I couldn't get one from Bruce, and I just hated the idea of lining some .......'s pockets who was reselling his USED GG for 150+% market price. It's one thing if somebody offers to pay more than something is worth, but not for a seller to adamantly stand by a price that he knows is egregious.

 

[martinc]

Well,been vaping for only a bit over 2 months and until 2-3 weeks ago,I tought GGs were indeed reselling for more and it was normal,so when i saw a couple a bit below,i jumped...

paid more than retail for my slims though,but that,given they are not made anymore and rare as hell,i dont mind at all!

 

[Para]

I think you are missing what I am saying. Before ever getting into GG's and learning about them, I saw a lot of UFS and GGTS at outrageous prices. That put a bad taste in my mouth in regard to GG. I NEVER mentioned Imeo.

I'm not missing what you are saying at all; I think you are making a big deal out of something that's not a big deal. But, let's say you are right....what you going to do, be the Price Cop? If you are, what limits are you going to place on people who want to sell something?

 

[silentt]

I don't agree with them selling at that high price but I wouldn't ban that practice. If you can afford to make that leap then by all means do it. If it's a product that is hard to get and/or rare and also peaks the interest in you then who is to say what the appropriate resale value is.

This stuff goes on everyday with things other than ecigs.

 

[Digitaltitan]

Not gonna lie, i offered to pay that price if he'd hold it for me for a while. Its outrageous, its gouging. But i want an ody more than i want most things.

 

[10mmshooter]

Wow, he is not selling air, you don't NEED one to live. If no one pays it, it won't sell.

I don't think its a bad thing. Do you know that people buy hard to get things all the time and sell them for more than retail cost? I saw many examples of this on my quest for GG products, it did not turn me off. In fact, it told me they are the best and in very high demand.

So called "gouging" actually works in a free market. Say I miss out on a pre-sale, I have been waiting months to get one. I would expect that if the product is worth it, I'll have to pay a premium. If it was such a great product, I should have to make it worth some ones while to get it from them.

Now, if a dealer was selling all his stock to one buyer, then flipping them, then would could talk collusion. That is different than what you are calling gouging.