Ego C Issues....Vaping...Is there any hope?

[hellcat]

Not sure why but I tried to post a thread in the Ego specific models forum but this was the only place that allowed me to post a new thread. So anyway, let's get down to cases.... I am not new to vaping. I have tried on and off for about 2 or 3 years now and have gone through several models of the 510 including the ego 510 model, 2 different mods, and several of the ego t's and c's. All have have been a terrible nerve racking experience. I have tried to quit smoking with little to no success for nearly 17 years now and when I vape successfully I don't smoke but my nicotine addiction doesn't get any better. But at least when I vape and vaping works I am not smoking.
My issues lie in the unreliability of ecig mechanics and or with the liquid I use. I have clearly tried many different units and several different types of liquids and no matter what I do nothing seems to work. I have tried cleaning, regular replacement of attys, drip tips, cartomizers, teabag filters, fish tank filters, mesh, watched countless troubleshooting videos, frequent priming etc. etc my equipment never works for more than a day or two. Right now the issue is with the ego c which I happen to love when and if it works. I am using the tank at the moment in hopes that it will wick but am forced to use it with the drip method which is never sound because I never know when its time to drip again till I get that burnt taste otherwise I end up flooding the atty 50% of the time. The ego C i have is a relatively new unit I bought a few months ago. I used it for a day or two and until last week hadn't used it. I replaced the atty and have since tried 3 more brand new attys since, all with the same problem. I have used pure PG, pure VG, 50/50 PG/VG mix, and it is still not wicking.And yes, I made sure that I punctured the silcone cap properly and that the flap is completely removed, so no interference there. No leaking thankfully, just a horrible burnt taste. If I drip it slightly alleviates the taste but dripping is a pain, I don't want to do it all the time. The liquids I have tried thus far are e-smokey treats, blue juice, innovapor, johnson creek, and a few others but trying with innovapor right now because I have heard that it is less likely to clog attys and a friend of mine uses it and gets at least 2-4 months if not more of good flawless use with just one atty. same model, same liquid. oh yeah, and we both are tied to our units, vape all day. what gives?

I am at wits end and vaping to date has been a complete waste of time and money. I know there are tons of threads out there but so far haven't found any solutions so I would be eternally grateful if someone might have some suggestions about getting my vaping back on track. I am desperate, I need to quit smoking for good and right now that means I have to vape. I am one of those crazy cigarette fiends who smokes a pack a day and has done so for the better part of nearly 2 decades and it needs to stop. I know I am killing myself slowly, reak of smoke, snore, sleep miserably and you all know all the other reasons smoking sucks, hence why you are here so I needn't bother drone on about how much I hate it. I could have pnemonia would probably smoke anyway. any help would be much appreciated. Sorry for the novel of a post, but A. i had lots of details and B. i am nic fitting right now and i guess I just needed to rant.

sincerely,

a desperate hellcat

 

[Mitch65]

#1. You may just be having some bad luck when it comes to hardware. There are dog rockets out there. Keep in mind most of these products are made in china so you are bound to have a few bad eggs out there.

#2 user error. You may be doing something incorrectly. For example when you were talking about the atomizer giving a dry hit or being flooded. You need to give an atomizer time to break in and get to know your atomizer. It's a relationship if you will. Once you get to know your atomizer you will be able to detect when a dry hit is comming. If I'm vaping I can detect the slightest change in an atty I have gotten to know. I can tell when the very next hit will be dry. The hit right before the dry hit should alert you to drip. If 3 drops flood it out then try 2 drops. Maybe the way you are drawing is causing dry hits. Too hard of a puff or not hard enough. Practice my friend and remember every atomizer and cartomizer and clearomizer and tank is different. Some good and some not so good. Get to KNOW your equipment. Spend time with it an learn it in and out.

#3 vaping may just not be for you. I hate to say it but I have a friend who has Tryed vaping over and over again and to no avail is in a similar situation to you.

#4 some of the things you describe are the hardships that come along with vaping. Just deal with it. Whenever I get a bad cart or a cracked tank or bad juice I just remind myself how much money Iv saved by switching and also my health.

I wish you the very best of luck.

 

[Buggs5347]

The reason you cannot post in the other forum is because you are new and don't have enough posts in the new member forum, yet.

My opinion, the Ego C tank/atty system sucks. Great when it works but the atty's are so dang unreliable. Perhaps you may be better suited to use a clearomizer like the Vision Vivi Nova mini with 1.8 or 2.4 ohm replaceable atty heads. The atty's are cheaper, as well as the entire thing should be easier to use than those plastic ego tanks. Just make sure you get an actual Vision brand and not a knock off.

As far as the juice goes, the higher the VG content the harder it is on atty's, so going to 100% VG is not the answer unless you for some other reason need to use all VG juice. Using a 60/40, or 70/30 Pg/Vg should be okay.

Everything delivery system in the vaping world has some fiddle factor, no getting around it. Usually, once you get past the learning curve of a delivery device things settle down.

 

[Dana A]

I think if I were you I would pitch that tank that came with the Ego. I have never heard much good about them. Try a vivi nova and some boge cartomizers. One of those two can satisfy most of us. The boges take about 40 drops of liquid and if it's flooded after that just blow it out a bit into a paper towel and then it's perfect. Hope this helps. I know how frustrating it can be when you have a problem and people keep telling you to buy more stuff as the answer. In the beginning it's just trial and error until you find what is the perfect set up for you. Don't give up. I know you can do it.

 

[Ryedan]

Right now the issue is with the ego c which I happen to love when and if it works. I am using the tank at the moment in hopes that it will wick but am forced to use it with the drip method which is never sound because I never know when its time to drip again till I get that burnt taste otherwise I end up flooding the atty 50% of the time. The ego C i have is a relatively new unit I bought a few months ago. I used it for a day or two and until last week hadn't used it. I replaced the atty and have since tried 3 more brand new attys since, all with the same problem. I have used pure PG, pure VG, 50/50 PG/VG mix, and it is still not wicking.And yes, I made sure that I punctured the silcone cap properly and that the flap is completely removed, so no interference there. No leaking thankfully, just a horrible burnt taste. If I drip it slightly alleviates the taste but dripping is a pain, I don't want to do it all the time. The liquids I have tried thus far are e-smokey treats, blue juice, innovapor, johnson creek, and a few others but trying with innovapor right now because I have heard that it is less likely to clog attys and a friend of mine uses it and gets at least 2-4 months if not more of good flawless use with just one atty. same model, same liquid. oh yeah, and we both are tied to our units, vape all day. what gives?

Sorry to hear about your issues hellcat! I have two eGo-C's from my first kit which I used for a couple of months straight and I still have and use. I find them very dependable, but maintenance intensive because the atties need to be cleaned pretty frequently for best performance. If I let one get too dirty the wick can come out of the spike when disassembling and it can be almost impossible to get it back in. I've found it mostly depends on the juice used. At worst I clean atties every 3-4 tank-fulls and at best I go about 6-8. I know I have to clean one when the sound significantly changes from that easy to hear crackling when new to a lot less noise. By then taste is diminishing. Once draw starts to get tighter I feel I've left it too late.

I can't imagine dripping into one of these things ... do you take out the tank and just drip into the cone? Or am I missing something?

I started with standard resistance atties (2.2 ohms) and after a while tried LR (1.8 ohms). They don't last as long as the SR type. I estimate I get 15 - 20 ml through a SR and maybe 8 - 12 through a LR, assuming of course I don't let them get too gunked up. I bought non Joyetech brand atties once only. They are cheaper but I had trouble with them not lasting and also had a couple of DOA's in that pack.

The atties are filled with something that does not taste nice when new. I don't inhale the first half dozen drags because of that.

You must keep the battery end of the device pointed down towards the ground when you vape, or the juice in the tank will not be able to feed into the spike of the atty and you get burnt hits. Does not have to be pointed straight down, but enough so juice contacts the spike. This is critical when the juice level is low.

You could also check out what your friend with the same setup is doing. For him to have success and not you, there has to be a difference. Could be the parts are not the same, cleaning frequency, juice, or something as simple as keeping it pointed downwards.

Well, that's about all I can think of that might help you. Best of luck with it and don't give up. You can do it!!

 

[edking66]

I found the Vision V3 worked very well on my EGO C. I would get several days use out of one before having to clean, depending on the juice (darker juices tend to gum them up quicker). Here is a link to My Freedom Smokes, I found the Low resistance to work better.

Vision eGo Clearomizer - V3 (Long Wicks, aka CE4 or Stardust) - MyFreedomSmokes.com

Hope this helps

 

[Paulette]

Sorry to hear your pain about the ego-c. I totally agree with Bugs, Dana and edking66. Get some vivi novas or Vision clearomizers (CE5) along with a few of their replaceable heads. They are so much easier to clean and maintain and IMO so much better than the ego-c's!

 

[hellcat]

thank you all for the responses. I will definitely look into some of the options you provided.

 

[bugler]

I say order some new gear and throw that in a drawer. Fidgety stuff is fine once you are beyond the reach of stinky sticks, but you need to find a setup that works reliably for you as long as the analogs are still looming over your head. good luck

 

[Stratified]

I got an eGo-C starter kit on 1/3/13 (my first real e-cig other than a Blu kit a while back). It was a nice offer, came with 2 extra packs of atomizers. It worked great for the first couple of days. A week and a half later, after much hassle and frustration, nearly an entire pack of atomizers, and $50 and various new cartos, clearo’s and atty’s bought in a last ditch effort to avoid buying another pack of smokes I finally figured it out: I had a bad pack of eGo-C atty’s. I still had 9 from the other 2 packs so I tried one and it worked flawlessly. The “bad” pack had what looked to be somewhat dried-up oil built up in the blister wells and the one remaining atty. Being new to this whole thing I didn’t notice or really think anything of it at first. So I looked up a cleaning vid on these venerable forums and tried cleaning the gunked up ones. They don’t work as well as the new, clean ones do, but they might be ok if I get them broken in. Thing is, I ordered a pack of the Low Resistance “B” type to see if they might be any better, and they look to be in the same state, so that’s 50% of my atty’s bad. I don’t really blame the vendor, as they were all still in the eGo black box, but it seems to me they might have been sitting around somewhere too long. I’ve since learned that I can get two maybe three uses out of one of the tank-mouthpieces before it needs a thorough cleaning, and that if I use anything thicker than about 80/20 PG/VG it won’t flow, and that the atty’s and the cone housing assembly need a cleaning about every 4-5 tanks . . . All in all it adds up to too much hassle; so I bought a bottom-feeder last week and couldn’t be happier. It was a good learning experience about how all this stuff I use works, but it was also a near thing there for a while, and I almost didn’t make it. Maybe this might help with your issues.

 

[fourthrok]

It's hard to believe people are still using those atomizers with the plastic tanks things. They are the most fiddly, unconsistent, miserable things I've ever dealt with in my vaping experience! I guess some people like them...but I would never have made it switching from a 43 year 2 PAD habit of smoking to vaping if I had had to rely on that. Kudos to those who survived that ordeal. You are made of sterner stuff than I am!

I personally would second the motion to try cartomizers...the polyfill things with the atomizers built in. Boge, Kanger, Ikenvape or Smoktech are all good brands. Boge and Ikenvape are particularly favored around here. Once you get the hang of that...try the carto tanks. Can be easy..thought there is a bit of a learning curve. Cartomizers by themselves don't really require any learning curve to speak of.

If cartomizers are not something you like...then try the Vivi Nova type tanks. Everyone says get Vision only. Or you could try the Kanger T3 type tanks or something like that. Personally, those type wick tanks are not for me...I feel they don't deliver the flavor as well as cartomizers and carto tanks, and they have more of a fiddle factor. But many people swear by them so if cartomizers aren't your thing, the clearos are certainly worth a shot.

Good luck! Sorry you have had such trouble! I was blessed that the transition was very swift and permanent with me, despite my long long smoking habit. I hope your road smooths out and becomes easier soon!

EDIT: Bear in mind high VG juices may not perform that great in the wick tanks or even carto tanks. It's best to use a PG/VG mix with it a bit heavier on the PG side. Unless you are allergic or something, of course.

 

[damselle]

Hey hellcat, welcome to ECF. I understand your frustration well. There are days still that nothing seems to work, even now. Either all of my batteries die at once, or my atties are all burning, or my juices don't taste right. On those days, I reach for a simple cartomizer, fill it with juice, and use it with my egos. Egos work fine, and you've tried enough of them it sounds, that you must have one good one in the bunch. I don't think it's the ego.

Personally, I find dripping a PIA. I only drip when I'm trying out new juices and don't want to waste a carto with a juice that I don't like. I try out juices with my provari, or another VV mod.

My favorite set ups are bottom feeders. I'm a lazy vaper, and can't stand fiddling around with things. The bottom feeders work great for me, but there's an art to that too. I only use my egos with a carto to stealth vape at work. I can't imagine you would go wrong with that set up.

Are you near other vapers? Someone you could sit down with? There's a vape meet site here, you may be able to find a vape meet near you and see what others are doing. You would likely get a chance to try out different juices. See what works for you.

Hang in there. Keep asking. People are here to help.

 

[redHorse]

Vision V3 works good for me. 100% vg clogs the little guy up. i would only buy one if it was joyetech all others are crap.

 

[Gmoney1985]

I has a ego c twist 510 clearomizer unit and I am totally new to this and I actually love it I have never had a dry it yet or don't really know what a dry it is but if you keep your liquid sloshing around in the tank you should be good i like the 20mg 70/30 pg/vg try that it works great in my clearomizer let me no how you make out

 

[Gmoney1985]

I think people don't give the ego c twist enuff credit I've vaped on pro varis from Cadillacs Rolls Royce all sorts of vaporizers and i use a ego c twist 650mah and she works and lasts all day and nite

 

[damselle]

came back to post my experience this morning hellcat because I just had an attie on a bottom feeder that burnt and was flooded at the same time. it must have gotten clogged. it was vaping fine, then poof. I just changed it out for another attie. that's another thing, I think, is that it's important to have enough supplies on hand that if one fails, you have a back up. otherwise, chaos in-sues

 

[Gmoney1985]

yes I quickly learn that because I bought a starter kit and a free bottle of the liquid and I thought that was it but really you have to buy a bunch of clearomizerss and a bunch of liquid and definitely replaceable parts cuz i relapsed waiting for parts and bought a pack of ciggarettes after three weeks of just vapeing

 

[hellcat]

Thank you all of this info is extremely helpful. After careful observation of all my habits and having gone through all 5 of the attys that came with my ego c kit, I found that only one of them works properly and wicks well. So... I just made an order with myfreedomsmokes.com and am ecstatic about their customer service. I initially I made an order online and got a vivi nova 3.5mL as well as a nova 2.0mL and vision ego clearomizer. Then, I watched a GrimmGreen review of the Vivi Nova on a silver bullet mod and he was concerned with safety issues and sirens were going of in my head because I had ordered those specifically for use on my silver bullet. So I called myfreedomsmokes and talked to Chris. WOW!!!! What an awesome vendor! He spent at least 20 mins on the phone with me, told me I could modify my order even though it was already packaged and ready to ship. I ended up keeping the 2.0mL nova for convenient use on my ego batteries (since I have so many and I often chain vape when I am at home), got an ego V3 clearomizer and picked up some smoketech lr carts in both single and double coil. I figured I would give several suggestions from this thread a try at once and save on some shipping. I ended up with an order $6 more than what I orginally paid. Chris comped the difference and he even said he would throw in another clearomizer and some liquids with different pg/vg mixes for me to try to help troubleshoot possible wicking issues. He also said if I was still having problems to give him a call and that he would make sure that I found a setup that would work for me. The prices there are great as well so I didn't feel like I had to break the bank to give vaping another go. I am also looking into using organic/natural clear juices and giving them a whirl. I am once again feeling really hopeful that I will make it over the hump and never smoke an analog again and will hopefully one day be nicotine free and won't need to vape either. Thanks again for all of your suggestions. I will give an update as soon as my near gear hits my doorstep and have time to give everything the old college try.

 

[hellcat]

@ demselle-a vape meet would be cool, not sure if there is anyone in my area. I actually moved to GA just south of ATL, I need to update my profile. Anyway, even back home I only knew one other person who vaped and he apparently is one of the lucky few where every unit and every piece of the kit he recieves works 100% of the flawlessly. I have all the same habits and he doesn't clean anything, just blows his attys out and he is good to go. Totally crazy! Oh yeah, and he has attys that last 6mos. to a year apparently using 100% vg liquid from innovapor. I have been using that as well and I really don't like it. So when I talk to him he is no help at all. I will try to do some digging around and see if I can't find anyone in my area, might also be a good way to find support when I start to go nic free. I will also be sure to keep more supplies on hand from now on once I find what works. fingers crossed.

 

[hellcat]

yes I quickly learn that because I bought a starter kit and a free bottle of the liquid and I thought that was it but really you have to buy a bunch of clearomizerss and a bunch of liquid and definitely replaceable parts cuz i relapsed waiting for parts and bought a pack of ciggarettes after three weeks of just vapeing

This has happened to me several times over the course of my 3-4 year vaping adventures. problem has always been that I never had anything work long enough for me to want to buy more to have on hand. I have high hopes for the recent order I made.