Ego One VT

[Steevo]

Hi everyone. I am searching for a new vape setup and had a few questions.

First some general info. Personally, I am not a cloud chaser. I just want a setup that is inexpensive and reliable. I like a vape that is cool (Not warm or hot).

Right now I have just an Ego C Twist with a Kanger Pro tank. It's ok, but I seem to blow through coils in a day or two and I'm sick of that. Also, the flavor kind of sucks. I know it's a crap setup.

I have had better setups, but for one reason or another I got rid of them. The 50 watt istick with a .5 or 1.0 ( I can't recall) ohm BVC coil worked well, but the vape was too warm and it hurt my lungs and ultimately athletic performance.

I am wondering if the Ego One VT will be easier on coils than my current setup. My logic is that the coil won't over heat and may last a little while. Is this accurate? Is there an RBA deck for this? Also, do I care if the coil is nickel or titanium?

Another setup I am considering is the Kanger sub box. I like this setup because I can rebuild coils with the RBA Deck.

Thanks for the help!

 

[NightShadow]

@Steevo My wife and I use an aspire k1 on an Ego and like it for mouth to lung. I do mainly use a diy 80/20 VG/PG with a just a dash of menthol crystals for flavor, easily get a month or more out of 1 coil.

A few notes I hope help you out, generally speaking:

Lower ohms = more power needed = warmer to hotter, to OMG STOP vape.

Higher ohms = less power needed = cooler vape.

Given the factors above can we raise of lower power to get more or less out of either a low ohm or high ohm coil? Yes, within limits.

Can anyone tell me what I would like? No, Not unless they can see into the future after you have tried a lot of different things.

Can anyone tell me if I will like the flavor of coil x? No, same as above. If I ask them to compare coil x they know to a coil we both know however, that is possible.

Does the Ego One VT have an RBA, NO. Also it is a Temperature Control OR Power Mode, designed to be easy to use for people. It has a decent range of coils to suit different tastes. Until you have actually tried TC, I couldn't possibly tell you if you would like it or not. The 2 main selling points to TC is not to burn the wicks of coils. Unless you vape it until the tank is empty any GOOD device really should not burn a wick even in power mode.

NEVER use Ti or Ni coils in POWER MODE.

Stainless Steel (SS) can be used in both TC and power mode, providing your mod supports it.

I can't tell you if you care about the Ni or Ti coils, you will need to read up on the safety of each and make an informed decision for yourself. I can say I feel that both are likely a safer option than smoking.

Some personal experiences I have had may give you some perspective here...

Your juice has a potentially huge impact on your coils. Some burn clean, others can gunk your coil up in 1-2 days. I think this is the major factor in longevity.

It can take a while but reading reviews/watching videos of devices/coils can seriously help you make more informed choices.

I recently bought a Wismec 75w TC mod and a Uwell Crown tank. I tried the stock Stainless Steel Dual coils at .25 and at .5 ohms, along with the .5 Ti and the separately purchasable RBA I tried a .25 SS coil (it came with 3 pre mades) here are my findings:

The low ohm dual coils are too hot for my liking in power mode.
Trying them in TC mode was well Different but still too warm for my tastes, or too little vapor at the lower temperatures.
Using the RBA is much better for me, the more restricted airflow pairs well with low power and low temperature mode for my taste. On the .25 SS coil in power mode I can vape it from 10 watts to 20 watts either mouth to lung or direct lung inhale depending on airflow setting. I can make my 42" tv vanish blowing clouds in front of me at this low a wattage.

Trying the exact same coil in TC mode in the rba at the default 75w, at low temps only produced tiny wisps of vapor which was not satisfying. Turning up the temp to the point the vapor better but was still not as good as the k1 and produced a too hot for me result.

Next I lowered the max power of the mod to 30w in TC mode, this was much better in both vapor and coolness. I can see possibly being able to use this if I fiddle with it more to dial it into my Goldilocks zone.

I did order some of the 1.2 ohm dual coils to try, and I will most likely be building a higher resistance coil on the rba as well.

A Potential issue with the Ego One VTC is the limited settings, low, medium, high. If you like one of them GREAT! If you do not, your hosed. My Strong suggestion on any mod that has limited adjust-ability is go to a B&M store and see if you can try before you buy. It is made to be easy and simple to use, and I am fairly confident I could get grandparents to be able to using it. So if you try it and like it, it is worthwhile for ease of use.

The upside to your other listed option the kanger sub box (mini?) is it is far more adjustable in power level than the Ego One VT, but it does not do TC if that is something you care about. Some report tanks leak, others have worked around that.

For the price of the Kanger ($55) I would ask you to compare other mods in that price range. I just did the same thing myself over the course of 2 months before buying the Wismec 75w TC. Granted I paid $40 for my mod, close to 10 more for a (top of the line) battery, and around $35 more for the crown tank and RBA.

I paid more but ended up with a mod that is in my opinion:
Very comfortable, fires via a squeeze from either hand no matter if it is facing front or back in my hand.
Can do power mode, or tc mode, options are nice, you may not need some.
Is up-gradable via USB, I will not recommend anything that is not these days.
Is rechargeable via front facing USB (or swap out batteries) while the mod is standing up with a tank attached. Handy.
Has a tank that can be top filled. We fill tanks often, why should it be a chore?!
Has a wide enuff assortment of stock coils and available rba to suit ME.
Comes in matching mod/tank colors. (Black like my heart) Personal taste.

Not everyone can be bothered or wants to fiddle with rebuilding coils. Do you?
Not everyone is suited to a simple device. I want choices/options.How about you?
Not everyone is suited to a more complicated device. I am fine with learning, others may be more like "there is more than 1 button?!, too much for me!" Which are you?

Hope this helps, good luck!

 

[Steevo]

@Steevo My wife and I use an aspire k1 on an Ego and like it for mouth to lung. I do mainly use a diy 80/20 VG/PG with a just a dash of menthol crystals for flavor, easily get a month or more out of 1 coil.

A few notes I hope help you out, generally speaking:

Lower ohms = more power needed = warmer to hotter, to OMG STOP vape.

Higher ohms = less power needed = cooler vape.

Given the factors above can we raise of lower power to get more or less out of either a low ohm or high ohm coil? Yes, within limits.

Can anyone tell me what I would like? No, Not unless they can see into the future after you have tried a lot of different things.

Can anyone tell me if I will like the flavor of coil x? No, same as above. If I ask them to compare coil x they know to a coil we both know however, that is possible.

Does the Ego One VT have an RBA, NO. Also it is a Temperature Control OR Power Mode, designed to be easy to use for people. It has a decent range of coils to suit different tastes. Until you have actually tried TC, I couldn't possibly tell you if you would like it or not. The 2 main selling points to TC is not to burn the wicks of coils. Unless you vape it until the tank is empty any GOOD device really should not burn a wick even in power mode.

NEVER use Ti or Ni coils in POWER MODE.

Stainless Steel (SS) can be used in both TC and power mode, providing your mod supports it.

I can't tell you if you care about the Ni or Ti coils, you will need to read up on the safety of each and make an informed decision for yourself. I can say I feel that both are likely a safer option than smoking.

Some personal experiences I have had may give you some perspective here...

Your juice has a potentially huge impact on your coils. Some burn clean, others can gunk your coil up in 1-2 days. I think this is the major factor in longevity.

It can take a while but reading reviews/watching videos of devices/coils can seriously help you make more informed choices.

I recently bought a Wismec 75w TC mod and a Uwell Crown tank. I tried the stock Stainless Steel Dual coils at .25 and at .5 ohms, along with the .5 Ti and the separately purchasable RBA I tried a .25 SS coil (it came with 3 pre mades) here are my findings:

The low ohm dual coils are too hot for my liking in power mode.
Trying them in TC mode was well Different but still too warm for my tastes, or too little vapor at the lower temperatures.
Using the RBA is much better for me, the more restricted airflow pairs well with low power and low temperature mode for my taste. On the .25 SS coil in power mode I can vape it from 10 watts to 20 watts either mouth to lung or direct lung inhale depending on airflow setting. I can make my 42" tv vanish blowing clouds in front of me at this low a wattage.

Trying the exact same coil in TC mode in the rba at the default 75w, at low temps only produced tiny wisps of vapor which was not satisfying. Turning up the temp to the point the vapor better but was still not as good as the k1 and produced a too hot for me result.

Next I lowered the max power of the mod to 30w in TC mode, this was much better in both vapor and coolness. I can see possibly being able to use this if I fiddle with it more to dial it into my Goldilocks zone.

I did order some of the 1.2 ohm dual coils to try, and I will most likely be building a higher resistance coil on the rba as well.

A Potential issue with the Ego One VTC is the limited settings, low, medium, high. If you like one of them GREAT! If you do not, your hosed. My Strong suggestion on any mod that has limited adjust-ability is go to a B&M store and see if you can try before you buy. It is made to be easy and simple to use, and I am fairly confident I could get grandparents to be able to using it. So if you try it and like it, it is worthwhile for ease of use.

The upside to your other listed option the kanger sub box (mini?) is it is far more adjustable in power level than the Ego One VT, but it does not do TC if that is something you care about. Some report tanks leak, others have worked around that.

For the price of the Kanger ($55) I would ask you to compare other mods in that price range. I just did the same thing myself over the course of 2 months before buying the Wismec 75w TC. Granted I paid $40 for my mod, close to 10 more for a (top of the line) battery, and around $35 more for the crown tank and RBA.

I paid more but ended up with a mod that is in my opinion:
Very comfortable, fires via a squeeze from either hand no matter if it is facing front or back in my hand.
Can do power mode, or tc mode, options are nice, you may not need some.
Is up-gradable via USB, I will not recommend anything that is not these days.
Is rechargeable via front facing USB (or swap out batteries) while the mod is standing up with a tank attached. Handy.
Has a tank that can be top filled. We fill tanks often, why should it be a chore?!
Has a wide enuff assortment of stock coils and available rba to suit ME.
Comes in matching mod/tank colors. (Black like my heart) Personal taste.

Not everyone can be bothered or wants to fiddle with rebuilding coils. Do you?
Not everyone is suited to a simple device. I want choices/options.How about you?
Not everyone is suited to a more complicated device. I am fine with learning, others may be more like "there is more than 1 button?!, too much for me!" Which are you?

Hope this helps, good luck!

Thanks so much Night Shadow... That was a great explanation. I will have to read this again and weigh my options.

Seems to me that TC is almost a must. Do you think so?
What will the upgrade do when it comes available?

 

[Appeltaart]

As someone who started out with an Ego One Mega, I understand the appeal of this simple and aesthetically pleasing device. As far as variable wattage or temperature control devices go, however, this device is very limited.

The Subox is a reasonable choice, but you'd be missing out on temperature control. Whether you'd come to miss this feature is hard to answer, but since you can get a temperature control battery for about the same price, you might as well find out.

The Subtank Mini, with its simple to use RBA, is a solid choice if you'd like to try rebuilding. However, I'd advice to pair it with a more advanced battery. The Evic VTC is probably your best bet, as it is very moderately priced, simple to use and has been receiving updates that added features usually reserved for high-end devices.

 

[NightShadow]

Thanks so much Night Shadow... That was a great explanation. I will have to read this again and weigh my options.

Seems to me that TC is almost a must. Do you think so?
What will the upgrade do when it comes available?

@Steevo You are most welcome, hope it helps

What any firmware upgrades will do depends on the mod in question and what the manufacturer can add/fix.
What they can do for example, on my mod when it shipped it could only use stainless steel wire in power mode. By the time it arrived 2 -3 weeks later (from china) they had an upgrade to allow the use of SS in TC mode. Another example would be a few 50w mods were up-gradable to 75w. Other times they are more or less fixes to make support for a specific wire better/more stable, tweaks to TC modes, screen items, etc.

Feel free to ask any questions you might have, just keep in mind the more specific you can be, and the more details you provide, the better we can help.

 

[NightShadow]

As someone who started out with an Ego One Mega, I understand the appeal of this simple and aesthetically pleasing device. As far as variable wattage or temperature control devices go, however, this device is very limited.

The Subox is a reasonable choice, but you'd be missing out on temperature control. Whether you'd come to miss this feature is hard to answer, but since you can get a temperature control battery for about the same price, you might as well find out.

The Subtank Mini, with its simple to use RBA, is a solid choice if you'd like to try rebuilding. However, I'd advice to pair it with a more advanced battery. The Evic VTC is probably your best bet, as it is very moderately priced, simple to use and has been receiving updates that added features usually reserved for high-end devices.

Good points.

The Evit VTC is made by Joytech. Joytech are involved with Wismec, who made the Presa 75w TC mod I have. The update tool for firmware on both of them looks identical. The VTC got an update for power from 50w or 60w (forget which) to 75w. The VTC got an update for using SS in TC, as did the Presa. I am seriously wondering if the internal chipset/boards are not identical, leaving the form factor/name the main difference. Comparing all internal specs/capabilities, they are identical. Only the case shape/color options, and the fire button is different.

I would have to say it comes down the shape / firing type you prefer, or color. And Price.

 

[Heybilox]

Hey Steevo, the Ego One VT can use the Joyetech CLR coils which are rewickable and rebuildable. I have the VT and the 2600 Mah ego one Mega and find the units much more enjoyable with the CLR coils than the CL coils that come with the units. I generally just use the 1.0 ohm coils and I'm happy with the flavor and the decent hit, at least the way I draw.
The coils are small but I have sucessfully rewicked them and my 65 year old peepers aren't the best.
I cheat on replacing the coil itself by using premade Fasttech coils. They were only $3 and change for a 100 and they do come out close to 1 ohm when tested.
Precoiled Wires
I prefer the penstyle units over the box mods at this time in my vaping journey and the Joyetech units are serving a purpose. I've usually got about 10 clearomisers on the go at any given time as I'm constantly concocting new DIY juice brews, but when I'm out for the day I take the VT to vape on, battery life is good and it hits well for me.

 

[suprtrkr]

@NightShadow has you pointed in the right direction. Let me welcome you to the board.

 

[Steevo]

So, I tried a few setups at the store today. The guys there were pretty helpful since it was the middle of the day and I was the only one there.

I like what I purchased, but it's not exactly what I thought I was buying. I thought I was buying the ego one vt, but actually I think I got a knock off named EGOKING MEGA. The term EGO made me think it was a joyetech.

It has three temp levels. 80w. Looks just like the ego one vt, but I think it has a few less options.It did come with two different coils. Supposedly it knows what type of coil you put in it. It's a 2500 MAH battery.

The vape is too hot for me except for on the lowest setting (400 degrees F). I also had to switch to a 3 mg juice which made the vape a lot more enjoyable.

All in all I like the unit.It lays down some serous vape and is light and easy to carry. The flavor is amazing. I do wish it had more info on their website. I would have bought the Ego One VT if they had it and if I was paying attention.
I paid $59 which seemed like an ok deal considering I was buying in the store and getting the help and assistance I needed.


Just wondering.. What would happen if I put my protank 3 on there with a 1.5 ohm coil?

Here is a link. Please don't tell me I got hosed because this was my christmas present to myself And thanks for all of the help and support.

Genesys Egoking Mega Starter Kit

EDIT: Crap.. Now I'm ....... I see the EGO one VT for $35 online.

 

[Steevo]

I got my magnifying glass out.
The coil I have in there now says Ni 200 .1 ohm
It also came with an OCC .5 ohm.

What might my other options be?
Would the .5 ohm coil be cooler or hotter vape? Or is it hard to say?

 

[Steevo]

Hey Steevo, the Ego One VT can use the Joyetech CLR coils which are rewickable and rebuildable. I have the VT and the 2600 Mah ego one Mega and find the units much more enjoyable with the CLR coils than the CL coils that come with the units. I generally just use the 1.0 ohm coils and I'm happy with the flavor and the decent hit, at least the way I draw.
The coils are small but I have sucessfully rewicked them and my 65 year old peepers aren't the best.
I cheat on replacing the coil itself by using premade Fasttech coils. They were only $3 and change for a 100 and they do come out close to 1 ohm when tested.
Precoiled Wires
I prefer the penstyle units over the box mods at this time in my vaping journey and the Joyetech units are serving a purpose. I've usually got about 10 clearomisers on the go at any given time as I'm constantly concocting new DIY juice brews, but when I'm out for the day I take the VT to vape on, battery life is good and it hits well for me.

Wow! You must look like the coolest 65 year old ever! Kids on skateboards probably say "Respect" and fist bump you

The CLR looks awesome. I'll have to give that a try. I read that my mod ( (Ended up with an Egoking mega / knockoff of ego one) can go between .1 and .8 ohm. Which coils do I select? Does the mm and number of wraps make a big difference or is it ok as long as it comes out to acceptable ohms?

For $20 I could have near unlimited coils.. That'd be awesome.

 

[Steevo]

I popped in the .5 ohm coil just for fun today. I'm pretty sure the coil was used and then washed. It had that diaper smell and taste that only comes from trying to rinse your coils under tap water. Has this happened to anyone?

 

[NightShadow]

I got my magnifying glass out.
The coil I have in there now says Ni 200 .1 ohm
It also came with an OCC .5 ohm.

What might my other options be?
Would the .5 ohm coil be cooler or hotter vape? Or is it hard to say?

With regards to your longer post before the one I linked: Do not stress over much about paying more for this than the Ego One VT, the price difference will honestly be rather trivial compared tot he money you will probably save from cartons of cigarettes in a rather short period, never mind over the long term. The important thing is you got something you can use, that you like, and were able to try it out and get dialed in to the proper mg strength to suit you. IMHO that local store earned the price difference making sure you had the right stuff for your tastes and ordering blindly could have resulted in far more money spent with a worse result.

The .1 ohm Ni coil is for temperature control mode ONLY, so you can adjust it on your mod to what you have already said is the best at the lowest temp for you that you like.

The .5 Coil would be working in power mode, and on your device I expect the option there is low med and high power. Best I can tell you is, try it on all 3, then decide which coil/power level you like best.

As far as your protank 3, while I suppose it would fit into the 510 connection I think it will look and feel rather wonky
being it is fatter than the battery. Having said that, if you do try start in low power mode and go up if needed. Worst case, you pop the coil in it, I rather doubt that would happen with that battery but you never know.

You also have the option of any other ego style clearomizer style mini tanks in power mode.

 

[NightShadow]

I popped in the .5 ohm coil just for fun today. I'm pretty sure the coil was used and then washed. It had that diaper smell and taste that only comes from trying to rinse your coils under tap water. Has this happened to anyone?

Could be 2 things going on here.

Funky new coil taste, machine oil etc, a lot of new ones come with a wide range of odd tastes for the first 1-2 ml through them.

Possibly as it was from a B&M store that something had been in it before. I would hope it was an oversight rather than them deliberately washing it out then reselling it. Possibly a returned item also