Ego Twist Questions...have I been confused this whole time?

[daniele25]

Hi everyone...I've been a little hesitant to ask what I am about to ask, mainly due to pure embarassment. LOL! I'm not THAT new at this, but over the last few days I have started to realize I may have been really confused about something. I also have the Ego Twist (for about 2 months now), and haven't really found much difference with the various settings, etc....and I think my confusion may be the reason why. OK....so that said, I was always under the impression that LR was meant for higher volts. (say under 2.2ohms..approximately...I've heard that number vary slightly). As I have been doing some research on some new products the last few days, watching some vids, etc....I'm starting to realize that people are using the SR cartos/clearos, or higher ohm products when they switch to the higher settings, above 3.7v mainly.

What I'm trying to understand, is which ohms you have found work best with which settings on your Twist. I have another little vv mod, it has 3.4, 3.7, and 4.0 options. Have I been totally confused this whole time? I think when hearing not to use LR cartos on smaller batteries, like a regular 510, etc....I may have mistaken that for assuming the LR products are better for the higher settings overall. Am I correct now in thinking that was a wrong assumption?

Forgive any dumb questions here....I just really want to make sure I understand this properly once & for all! (And then hopefully get an even better vaping experience with my Twist and little vv mod)

Thanks for listening! (and for not laughing....too hard anyway!)

 

[Underwhelmed]

Here is what I use on my Twist with the juice I use.

I screwed up and bought some LR stuff when I first got my Twists. I only ran them at 3.7 or lower.

Mostly I use CE3's in the 2.4 to 2.6 range and don't go higher than 4.0 or they taste burny on the AVE VG juice I like.

I think you can get away with more of a margin of error voltage wise with a good brand of cart because as long as they are wet or stuck in a tank they won't burn as easily as a clearo/stardust/CE3, etc.

Above 4.0 volts I would use a 3 ohm or better attachment.

Again, these are my preferences for what I like.

 

[daniele25]

Here is what I use on my Twist with the juice I use.

I screwed up and bought some LR stuff when I first got my Twists. I only ran them at 3.7 or lower.

Mostly I use CE3's in the 2.4 to 2.6 range and don't go higher than 4.0 or they taste burny on the AVE VG juice I like.

I think you can get away with more of a margin of error voltage wise with a good brand of cart because as long as they are wet or stuck in a tank they won't burn as easily as a clearo/stardust/CE3, etc.

Above 4.0 volts I would use a 3 ohm or better attachment.

Again, these are my preferences for what I like.

This is a big help...I've had it backwards, and no wonder I don;t like anything at higher volts! This gives me an accurate range to work with. Too bad I just ordered 15 SmokeTech 1.7om cartos.

 

[Underwhelmed]

Once you find what you do like, it is much easier.

I haven't been vaping too long, but from my understanding the LR stuff was developed for the older eGo's to get more out of the weaker batteries. Plus I guess some people like their vape really hot.

Here is a handy tool to help you figure to a degree what will work best for you-
Ohm's Law Calculator

Just plug in any two variables and it will give you the rest.

So, if you know what voltage and resistance tastes good to you, put them in to get the amperage draw and power in watts.

Once you know what wattage tastes good to you, you can use wattage and resistance to get your voltage to figure where to set for a higher or lower resistance attachment.

Start a little lower and adjust as needed till it suits you.

Sorry to hear about those SmokeTech's, but try the calculator to get a workable voltage for you.

 

[r77r7r]

Here's a chart to help-

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You click on it to make it larger. The ohms of the carto you need are on the left, the voltage of your battery- up top. Staying in the green, or right above is the happy place.

Alot of folks like 8 watts.

 

[Stosh]

This is a big help...I've had it backwards, and no wonder I don;t like anything at higher volts! This gives me an accurate range to work with. Too bad I just ordered 15 SmokeTech 1.7om cartos.

The 1.7 ohm cartos will work just fine, lower the voltage for low ohms, make it taste good. Don't worry about numbers too much, if it tastes good, lots of vapor, who care what the voltage is set at....

 

[Underwhelmed]

Here's a chart to help-

Imageshack - unled66.jpg

You click on it to make it larger. The ohms of the carto you need are on the left, the voltage of your battery- up top. Staying in the green, or right above is the happy place.

Alot of folks like 8 watts.

That chart is a lot easier to use than the Ohm's Law Calculator I posted.

I'm a wussy, my watts sweet spot is only around 6.6 or so, but it does vary a bit depending on the juice, attachment, etc.

 

[daniele25]

Thank you all so much!! JUst yesterday I was looking for the chart that MadVapes had on their site, but the page wasn't loading. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!!

 

[candimccann]

The sweet spot is usually between 8 and 10 watts. To get wattage, you square your voltage and then divide by the ohms.

2.0 ohms at 3.7 volts would look like this:
3.7x3.7= 13.69
13.69/2.0= 6.85

That's a bit low for most people.

Switch to a 1.7 ohm (aka Resurrector) at 3.7v
13.69/1.7= 8.05 watts

That gets you into the low end of the sweet spot, thus that magical 1.7 being known as the resurrector.

Let's try 4 volts and a 2ohm:
4x4=16
16/2=8

Now let's try 4 volts and a 1.7ohm:
16/1.7= 9.41

Still in the sweet spot range, just at the high end.


Any of those combos are acceptable.

Hope that helps.

 

[daniele25]

The sweet spot is usually between 8 and 10 watts. To get wattage, you square your voltage and then divide by the ohms.

2.0 ohms at 3.7 volts would look like this:
3.7x3.7= 13.69
13.69/2.0= 6.85

That's a bit low for most people.

Switch to a 1.7 ohm (aka Resurrector) at 3.7v
13.69/1.7= 8.05 watts

That gets you into the low end of the sweet spot, thus that magical 1.7 being known as the resurrector.

Let's try 4 volts and a 2ohm:
4x4=16
16/2=8

Now let's try 4 volts and a 1.7ohm:
16/1.7= 9.41

Still in the sweet spot range, just at the high end.


Any of those combos are acceptable.

Hope that helps.

BIG help - thank you!! Been vaping for 6 months, on the forum the whole time and have had it wrong all along! (Thankfully I never gave anyone else input on posts like this...I would have been dead wrong!)

I haven't tried the "Resurrectors" yet, they should be here in the next day or so, but its my first time ordering them. Sounds like they'll be great on my regular Ego, or at 3.7 on the Twist. Been wondering what all the hype with those was about....I'm definitely glad I asked this question before I tried vaping them at 4.0, or higher, and wondering why on earth everyone likes them! LOL

 

[Stosh]

goes to prove the only stupid question is the one not asked!!!

 

[onizuka]

The sweet spot is usually between 8 and 10 watts. To get wattage, you square your voltage and then divide by the ohms.

2.0 ohms at 3.7 volts would look like this:
3.7x3.7= 13.69
13.69/2.0= 6.85

That's a bit low for most people.

Switch to a 1.7 ohm (aka Resurrector) at 3.7v
13.69/1.7= 8.05 watts

That gets you into the low end of the sweet spot, thus that magical 1.7 being known as the resurrector.

Let's try 4 volts and a 2ohm:
4x4=16
16/2=8

Now let's try 4 volts and a 1.7ohm:
16/1.7= 9.41

Still in the sweet spot range, just at the high end.


Any of those combos are acceptable.

Hope that helps.

This explanation is perhaps the greatest thing for a newb like myself. Thank you!

 

[candimccann]

This explanation is perhaps the greatest thing for a newb like myself. Thank you!

Glad to be of service!

 

[daniele25]

One more question on this...based on everything I read here, I'm unclear as to why are you supposed to use SR cartos (so I guess around 2.4ohms?) on the smaller ecigs, like a regular 510 as example?

 

[jhfw]

The smaller batteries, for the most part, are unable to supply the required current when using a low resistance carto, or if they can, you will have to recharge them often.

 

[billo]

I use 1.8 ohm atty's on my Twist and run it around 4.4 volts. That's about 10.7watts, unless the Twist is limiting the current. Anything less is not as good for me.
For example, a fully-charged ordinary battery at 4.1 V is not as good.

So, there are siome rules of thumb, but everyone has to try for themselves. LR atty's definitely work with the Twist !

 

[candimccann]

The LR on a small battery is more about mah than voltage, I believe. To run the lower resistance, you drain those batteries very fast and reduce their life span (number of charge cycles they will survive through). I've read that 600mah or higher is the rule for less than 2 ohms. But I am noticing more 'kits' in the 510 family that are coming with LR and/or Dual Coil cartos.

 

[daniele25]

This is helpful - thanks! That's what totally threw me off....having to use the higher ohm or SR cartos with the smaller/regular 510s, so I got in the mindset that lower ohms was for higher volts.

Thanks again - this was all great info!

 

[pappertapper]

the good thing about your vv twist is that you can use pretty much whatever resistance delivery device you want and still get the vape you want by just changing the voltage. For instance a lot of times vendors are out of LR or SR cartos so you can just get the other and adjust your voltage.

 

[jwv651]

Lets see I have a buzz pro/I Pro/Ego Twist....I use Boge SR 3.0 at 4.2-4.6 on the buzz and Ipro and 4.2 on the ego twist. I also have some left over Resurrectors 1.7 and only use them on the ego twist at 3.7. IMO the Boge's SR 3.0 at 4,2 on the twist is about as good as it gets. I should also mention I only use tanks in my setups. Good Luck!