Ehpro vs Hcigar Caravela

[Friscoweather]

I'm looking at getting a Caravela clone and would like some feedback about both the EhPro and hcigar models.

I realize that both manufacturers typically make quality products. I know that there must be some differences between them.
I plan on getting one with all 3 tubes. I have noticed that the Ehpro appears to not have any engravings. Is that correct?

Please chime in if you own one of the two and let me know what you paid and where you got it.

Thanks,
FW

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[nic_fix]

the ehpro I have does not have any engravings. it is such high quality that without the engravings it is not really a clone. it does say caravela on the box. I just think it is it's own thing if you know what I am saying. not really a clone of anything just a great mod in it's own right. only "clone" I have because I hate ripping off other folks work. plus usually clones suck compared to the real thing. not always though. I have some Philippine mods that the clones I have handled were at least as good. other than the ehpro you will not get the real caravela quality. I would get the ehpro and consider it a unique design of it's own and be proud to own it.

 

[schuff]

I can only speak for what I have and that is the ehpro caravela. It came with the 18650,18350 tubes, three center post screws of varying lengths and an extra spring for the firing button. It does have the caravela boat, name and firing button engravings. It is available in black w/ gold engravings or stainless w/ standard engravings. I bought it at a decently priced local vape shop for $75. I've seen some going online from various vendors for around $55-$60.

Here are the quick pro cons I have for the ehpro.

Pros:
- firing button spring is stiff. Holds a filled Kayfun when set down.
- decent machining throughout the mod. Would be perfect if it weren't for the threads having machining oil caked in some places. A quick alcohol wipe around all the threads and they are buttery smooth.
- firing button can be pressed from any angle without any grinding.
- battery tubes are slightly oversized allowing the use of a kick or vape safe even in 18650 if wanted.

Cons:
- the locking ring is the exact same diameter as the firing button. When not paying attention it is very easy to unscrew your firing button.
- Even with the three center post screws it isn't always possible to get a perfectly flush mount all around. With some atomizers I am forced to have a 1-2 thread gap on the bottom cap.
- the exterior polish is very smooth making it a finger print magnet and slick when your hands are oily.

 

[TrolleyVW]

I have a copper ehpro clone without engravings and what's been said is basically what I would say.

Based on my experiences, another couple pros and cons:

Pros:
The copper version hits harder than anything I've used. Period. I just received my authentic copper Vanilla mod with copper contacts and it unfortunately hits harder. Unfortunate because it was nearly a third of the price and it still hits harder.
It looks awesome even though it's 23mm and all my RDAs are 22-19mm.

Cons:
As mentioned above, it does not sit flush. The issue with mine is, I removed the floating pin/plastic insulator to use the screw pins which all turned out to be a bit too small or too long. I then went to put the floating pin back in and broke the screw pin/plastic piece so now I am stuck with the floating pin. This wouldn't be an issue normally but none of my RDAs that I actually like will fit flush without a gap either at the top or bottom.

I love the way it looks without the engravings for two reasons. One being the fact that, as stated, it is not necessarily a clone because it's essentially just a tube. The second reason being that I didn't really like the sailboat engraving anyways.

Overall, the ehpro copper caravela is a beast of a mod that hits harder than everything else I own. A lot of people claim this statement about things they have no idea what they're talking about. I have the same build on 6 different RDAs. Yes the top caps are different, whatever. Point being, with the surface area of the contacts, the contacts actually being copper underneath that brass/gold playing, and the copper tube itself, it hits hard.

 

[Elim]

Hcigar vela here.


Cons: There is a wobble at the base of about 10 degrees, and magnets did not solve this problem. Only one 510 pin that adjusts, but will not accomodate some of my batteries without showing threads (namely the 18500 batteries with nipple tops where there are tons of threads showing). These bare threads is annoying because it catches a bunch of lint and other crap in my pockets that reduce the quality of the vape due to interference of the conductivity (i think). Luckily, cleaning up the mod fixes that, but it's still annoying.

Pros: everything lines up perfect where if I run my finger along the side from button to top cap, there is no point at which I feel a a disjointed point (I only mention this because I recently ran into this problem with an atomo v2). It hit harder than any other mod I have, regardless of silver plated pins, copper pins, what have you. It is a 22mm device and with something like a polished patriot, it just looks fan-friggin-tastic. Like the ehpro, this device is just tiny in 18350 mode. Also, 18650 mode is just great to hold and actually is the only mode that the mod fits flush everywhere.

Sorry I rambled and I hope I helped you in your decision.

 

[Friscoweather]

I've noticed a couple of conflicting statements about the engravings. Is the Ehpro available in either configuration of engraved / not engraved?

Is the diameter 23mm on all versions?

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[UncleChuck]

EH Pro ones are available in engraved and blank versions. The EH Pro is also taller, fatter (23mm vs HCigar's 22mm) and quite a bit heavier. Personally I feel the EHpro is better quality overall, but I prefer 22mm mods so I use my HCigar.

The HCigar also has silver plated contacts compared to the EHpro's brass contacts, although it's possible there is some variance on contacts. Fasttech's vela clone that is supposedly HCigar only has brass contacts from what I've heard, just something to be aware of.

Highlights:

EHpro:

23mm
Larger overall, everything slightly scaled up
Brass contacts
Available with either blank or engraved tubes
Has delrin/plastic insert in switch to insulate and remove battery rattle

HCigar:

22mm
Silver Plated Contacts
Engraved Tubes
Bare switch top may cause issue with batteries that have completely exposed negative end


Here is a pic of the HCigar (with tubes) compared to the EHPro. The EhPro is on the far right and configured in 18350 mode, the HCigar next to it is in 18500 mode and they are about the same size, so that should give you an idea of the size difference between the two. You can also see the difference in finish on the endcaps, the HCigar is more matte/rough yellow and the EHpro is more shiny yellow, supposedly gold plating actually.

 

[^Top-Shelf^]

Glad this thread came up as I've also been debating on the 2. Looks like I'm going to go with my first choice of the hcigar, I didn't know the EHPro was 23mm. Thanks for the thread and info guys.

 

[Flt Simulation]

I bought the HCigar Caravela clone just because it is 22mm in diameter and matches the diameter of my Kayfun perfectly. As others have stated, the EHpro is a larger 23mm in diameter.

Here is where I bought my HCigar Caravella for $38.50 with free shipping (from California) ...
Hcigar Caravela Brass Stainless Steel Mechanical Mod Vape Best Quality | eBay

I would recommend buying the brushed stainless version, unless you like polishing brass all the time (or like the patina of tarnished brass)

 

[Elim]

All this talk about the vela makes me want to buy the brass hcigar vela now. Must...resist...

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[Friscoweather]

After all of the help and advice, I ended up getting an Hcigar mixed Nemesis.

My next mod will be the Ehpro Caravela with engraving. I like the fact that it's 23mm for my Taifun GT

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[Jessup Jernagains]

hmm I was looking to stock some of the vela's but couldn't decide to go with hcigar or ehpro as both are quality cloners. I was leaning toward the hcigar because of the fact that my hcigar m16 came in SS whereas ehpro only offers the aluminum. Thank you all for the information, helps make my decision easier!

 

[schuff]

hmm I was looking to stock some of the vela's but couldn't decide to go with hcigar or ehpro as both are quality cloners. I was leaning toward the hcigar because of the fact that my hcigar m16 came in SS whereas ehpro only offers the aluminum. Thank you all for the information, helps make my decision easier!

I work in a vape shop that sells the ehpro but have several friends that have the HCigar. Both are higher in quality for clones. Have never had any problems selling a vela of any type.

 

[Aviationrich]

Great thread! I'm going to order the hcigar vela this Friday and this helped me out. Thanks!

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[Flt Simulation]

- Even with the three center post screws it isn't always possible to get a perfectly flush mount all around. With some atomizers I am forced to have a 1-2 thread gap on the bottom cap.

I have a fix for that ... I trimmed down my upper center post screw as far as I could and still get a good connection between the atomizer and the upper part of the center post screw and between the lower part of the center post screw and the top of the battery.

But, I still had a gap between the bottom of the tube and bottom cap.

What I did to close that gap was to grind down the upper part of the bottom cap a little, then sand and polish it so it looks like it came that way from the factory.

Grinding down the lower cap causes it to screw in farther before it contacts the bottom of the battery ... This gets rid of the gap.

The arrow in the photo below is where it was ground down ... Just don't grind it too far. Grind a little at a time and keep checking it.

In fact ... here is what the lower cap looked like before I ground it down (notice the 2 grooves on it) ... I ground mine down to where the grooves are gone in order to eliminate the gap between the tube and the bottom cap ... that was a lot!

(Photo I pulled off the internet since I didn't take a 'before' photo)