Eleaf Pico Mod MINI 3 problem :(

[CzerstwaBula]

Hello everyone.

First of all I'd like to say I'm very glad to be a part of the community.

I have a BIG problem I totally can't solve with my Eleaf Pico.

I'm a very fresh vaper, decided to do that not to smoke the cigarettes. Like we all, don't we?

The thing is:

I really like vaping, it's great! But Pico is ruining my fun, indeed.

I used the 0.3 and 0.5 original coils, that were inside the starter pack. I'm using the Mini 3 Atomiser.

The thing is - I have a (BIG!) problem with the coils. After I fill the tank, i get a tragic burnt taste. I read about 100 topics like that, nothing helps.

At the beginning it was ok - I was able to smoke for about 2 weeks, nothing was wrong. Now it's even problematic.

Well:

1) I'm charging the battery with a phone charger. Everything is OK, it's charging until it's full - then I vape.

2) Coils burn incredibly fast - I get liquid inside it, filling the Eleaf 0.3 Coils OR TRITON coils 0.5 with liquid through the 4 holes, like 3 drops every hole. Then i put 2-3 drops inside the coil through the top, like the seller used to. One coil lived even (almost!) a week, it was the original eleaf 0.3 coil. Then three! coils died in 1 day. I saw many "hacks" on the Internet, that i should make small holes in the coil (of course in the 4 spots in the coil!). I made it. It doesn't help. They burn like hell!!!!!!

3) I open the atomiser, to let the air go out. Many people do this, because they say the coil doesn't soak properly when it's closed.

4) I almost don't feel the liquid taste. I never let my atomiser go lower than 25% of liquid.

5) I am smoking at Wattage mode, at 35-40W.

I'm actually thinking I'll stop vaping, I feel totally uncomfortable with the feeling, that I'm doing something totally wrong.

Please, please, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong??? I'm rly sad, that Pico wants me to stop smoking.

Kind regards and VERY BIG THANKS to everyone willing to help me.

CzerstwaBula

 

[CzerstwaBula]

and yeah, I've just burned triton. bought yesterday, used 10 ml on it... I want to destroy the pico atm...

 

[the wind]

sorry for all you bad luck but it well get better.you need to keep priming your coil with drops before installing.then give it a lot of pulls with no power,that will also saturate the coil.when you start to use it start with the lowest setting and very slowly work up.let us know if you understand or/and need more help.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Have you tried using a lower power setting?
Always start a new thoroughly primed new head off at a lower power setting (like 20ish w) for at least the first half tank. Gradually increase power in small increments until you find what you like in vape quality.
What pg/vg ratio & nic mg/ml are you using?

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome. I'll second the idea of starting out a new coil slowly. Also bear in mind those coils are made thousands per hour on automated machinery. It is entirely possible you (or your vape shop) have just gotten a bad batch of them. If you're buying at a store, try ordering a box online-- make sure they're authentic-- and it's cheaper anyway. Failing that, you can always try a new tank. The fact the ones that came with the tank worked just fine, but the new ones you're buying don't, lead me in this direction. Maybe your vape shop cheaped out on non-authentic coils. Or maybe they got ripped off and don't even know it. It's nothing you're doing, I assure you, from your description. They should be primed well enough from what you say you're doing. (Taking a few "primer puffs" is a good idea too.) Don't give up yet, I'm sure we can find a way to help.

 

[djsvapour]

Prime the coil better and vape at lower power until you understand your device.

A few drops per hole and a little down the middle is not enough. Even some small coils can take 10 drops in the top of the coil and still leave needing to sit the coil in the tank in the liquid for a while.

Most 0.3ohm coils should do 35-40w.

Most 0.5ohm coils of this type (I use lots) can do 35-40w but often cannot keep up. It depends on your liquid. I have one right now set to 34w and it needs very careful vaping with higher VG juice. I'm basically sucking on it without firing and releasing the top cap (vacuum problem) every 10 puffs or it dry-hits. It would still dry-hit at 20w I would say. That's how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

 

[stols001]

If you are vaping at 35--40 watts, in that tank, it may be very easy for it to overheat (it's a small tank for such low resistances) and a long, slow priming process may be helpful, taking pulls without any power, then starting at 5 watts and going up from there, until you reach your sweet spot. Maybe open the airflow more so more air is getting to the tank? Some coils don't have a lot of life at high wattages with juices with gunking factors (dark juices, NET or WTA juices, high VG juices). To KEEP your coil primed, well, with my drop in coils I keep inhaling a few seconds longer after I remove my finger from the fire button, which keeps things moving smoothly.

I really think it's a tank issue, with the Melo III (I use the Vaporesso C-cell coils in it) I do not chain vape that tank as it's so tiny once I replaced the coils with something I liked better, I worry about overheating (and also keep wattages low). Perhaps poking holes in the coils will help, but understanding the FULL picture of why coils die can be helpful as well. I use some pretty tiny coils (Aspire Nautilus BVC coils) and I have found they work best in larger tanks (instead of the Nautilus 2, the Kabuki) and with less coil gunking factors. I have added 10% Distilled water to my mixes to thin the vape, which also helps with overheating-- which does affect your coil over time). I also found using DIY e-juice where I have control over how much sweetener and flavor is in my juice helped a great deal.

Also, OVER-priming a coil can lead to gurgling and flooding, so adding drops down INTO the coil may not necessarily be helping you. I have never once done that with my new coils, I simply let them sit in the tank for at least 15 minutes while doing no power priming puffs, then start at 5 watts and up wattages slowly.

Best of luck, and if you do have gunking factors you can't get rid of (like high VG, for example) or other issues, that may be the time to look into RTAs and building your own coils.

It is entirely possible you got a bad batch of coils from the vape shop, but understanding these principles generally will help you. Someone who vapes at a lower wattage with those coils (or perhaps unflavored) may get more coil life than you will get. Also, it's not really about days that pass, and more really about how much liquid passes through the coil. If you are chain vaping, or vaping a lot, that may be causing some of your problems.

Best of luck, treat your coils well and they will reward you (unless you have a bad batch) and good luck getting it sorted out!

Anna

 

[BrotherBob]

Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong???

Welcome and glad you joined.
If you learn the basics,you can easily progress to more advanced (RDA's) vape equipment.
I'd stay away from sub ohm (.3/.5 ohms) coil atomizers until you learn more about vaping.
Might like to read:
http://www.vaporauthority.com/pages/learn
Vaping and Inhaling: Everything You Need To Know
https://spinfuel.com/new-vapers-start/
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/a...tte-college-guides-tutorials-information.html
http://guidetovaping.com/category/e-cig-beginner/
http://vapingcheap.com/vaping-101/
http://ecigclopedia.com/6-quick-useful-vaping-tips-for-beginners/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...up-the-vaping-ladder-with-egos-and-mods.5058/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...nk-or-what-a-guide-to-juice-attachments.3230/

 

[vapdivrr]

And it has nothing to do with the pico. The pico is just the battery and if you wanted to try another tank, you can keep the pico and use the new tank with it.....I think I would first try lowering power just a tad , then buy some new coils online from a trusted vendor who is selling authentic coils. If it's still happening, try a different tank. Also as others have mentioned, a juice that's too thick and too sweet also destroys coils, so if your juice is above 80 vg, maybe try a lower vg content...don't give up my friend, it just takes a little time finding the sweet spot

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[CzerstwaBula]

HI and thanks for the replies.

The issue seems to be the liquids - when i use my friend's home made liquids there's no problem and even 0.3 eleaf coil (thas i fully saturate with liquid) can live 5 days...

When i use the shop liquid it cant be filled with liquid well. and dies very fast. I think i'll buy a new atomizer, cause REALLY melo mini 3 is a tiny and very bad atomizer.

The issues I have found:

1) there's oxygen inside and i have to open it like one time for 10-20 pulls... (35W on 0.3). Quite stupid and annnnnnnnnoying!
2) The coil needs to be filled FULLY with the liquid for some time (30min). If I don't do this (and needs to be not a thick one), it dies in a momennnnnt!
3) poking holes helps
4)* optional comment* - don't use melo 3 - is rly not a good atomizer and i'll buy a new one in coming days...

Any clues, which should i buy for pico?

 

[Beamslider]

HI and thanks for the replies.

The issue seems to be the liquids - when i use my friend's home made liquids there's no problem and even 0.3 eleaf coil (thas i fully saturate with liquid) can live 5 days...

When i use the shop liquid it cant be filled with liquid well. and dies very fast. I think i'll buy a new atomizer, cause REALLY melo mini 3 is a tiny and very bad atomizer.

The issues I have found:

1) there's oxygen inside and i have to open it like one time for 10-20 pulls... (35W on 0.3). Quite stupid and annnnnnnnnoying!
2) The coil needs to be filled FULLY with the liquid for some time (30min). If I don't do this (and needs to be not a thick one), it dies in a momennnnnt!
3) poking holes helps
4)* optional comment* - don't use melo 3 - is rly not a good atomizer and i'll buy a new one in coming days...

Any clues, which should i buy for pico?

High ration VG store bought? not going to wick fast enough for 30-40 probably

 

[dennism]

I use the vaporesso estoc tank with the .5 ohm ceramic coils. I have 3 picos and never a problem.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

It sounds like the coil life isn't too bad, actually. If you're going through several tankfuls each day, and you're using a dark-colored, very tasty or creamy juice at high wattage, then getting a few days out of a new coil is ok.

As others have mentioned, the makeup of your juice is important, as is your technique. Don't be in a hurry! The Melo is at the top of its range at 35-40 Watts. It just doesn't have the airflow to cool the coil at 40+ Watts, and thick VG-rich juices won't flow fast enough through the wicking material. The result is a burnt coil.

Also, after a certain amount of juice, the wicks give up and the problem gets worser faster.

It would be helpful to know where you live, as we might be able to point you in the direction of where to shop online. There are several much better tanks with more capacity, better airflow and better coil selection than that little Melo.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I use the vaporesso estoc tank with the .5 ohm ceramic coils. I have 3 picos and never a problem.

I'm an Estoc user too. I love that tank on the Pico 75.

It's also at the top of its range around 40 Watts but the flavor and vapor are so good there that you don't care for much more.

 

[djsvapour]

The issues I have found:

1) there's oxygen inside and i have to open it like one time for 10-20 pulls... (35W on 0.3). Quite stupid and annnnnnnnnoying!

4)* optional comment* - don't use melo 3 - is rly not a good atomizer and i'll buy a new one in coming days...

Any clues, which should i buy for pico?

Yes! the Melo does often require opening the top cap (for some people) to avoid the low-juice-flow effect.
and yes.. It's not a very good tank really.
I prefer the Aspire Evo tank which uses the same EC coil heads. Or some of the Eleaf iJust tanks.
A great choice would also be the original Uwell Crown.

 

[Gramdogg]

HI and thanks for the replies.

The issue seems to be the liquids - when i use my friend's home made liquids there's no problem and even 0.3 eleaf coil (thas i fully saturate with liquid) can live 5 days...

When i use the shop liquid it cant be filled with liquid well. and dies very fast. I think i'll buy a new atomizer, cause REALLY melo mini 3 is a tiny and very bad atomizer.

The issues I have found:

1) there's oxygen inside and i have to open it like one time for 10-20 pulls... (35W on 0.3). Quite stupid and annnnnnnnnoying!
2) The coil needs to be filled FULLY with the liquid for some time (30min). If I don't do this (and needs to be not a thick one), it dies in a momennnnnt!
3) poking holes helps
4)* optional comment* - don't use melo 3 - is rly not a good atomizer and i'll buy a new one in coming days...

Any clues, which should i buy for pico?

Sounds like the shop uses alot of sweetner so you gunk up and burn out your coils so you'll need to buy more. They partly do it for that reason I'm sure but mostly because many people rebuild and don't mind changing cotton every few days. I'd just buy your friends juice till you make your own or get in to building coils... very easy with the decks they have these days.