@WayneL,
Just so you understand what
@retired1 is referring to;
ECF Rules prohibit the discussion of nic concentration use
greater than 200mg/ML (or 20%)(for DIY nicotine rules; click on above link, and read rule #35 d and e). The most common(?) "upper end" for home DIYers in the US is 100mg/mL (10%), and in the UK and EU, I
believe it is quite difficult to get higher than 72mg/mL(7.2%). ECF encourages discussing nicotine in terms of "mg/mL" (milligrams per milliliter), instead of percentages, to avoid any confusion (such as in your previous post) regarding nicotine strength.
So... I will
assume you meant you are (or intend to) using (use) 100mg/mL nic
in 100% VG base. And, with that understanding, the recipe you posted in your initial screenshot will result in this:
You will end up with a 15mL batch of 22.2%PG/77.8%VG (call it 22P/78V) with 26mg/mL nic strength, and a flavor concentration of 5%.
I see from your new members thread, that you are vaping between 18mg/mL and 24mg/mL, so this is not out of line. Whether it is going to be right for you; no one,
but you, can say.
My main concern is going to the shop and asking for high nic, he just drops some drops of nic in his house flavors. Here it is asking for more nic than pg
As for the PG being a physically smaller amount than the nic concentrate; that is not unreasonable. The overall target PG/VG ratio (the ratio you want to end up with... in your case
apparently 22P/78V) is the goal. Most everything we put into our DIY mixes (flavor concentrates, and nicotine) are in a base of PG, VG, or both.
All of those bases have to be accounted for in the overall ratio.
Or putting it another way:
each flavor concentrate, or nicotine concentrate, counts toward the flavor (or nic) percentage, and also toward the PG or VG percentage. Here is a over-simplified example:
I am using 10%(of total recipe) nic concentrate which is in 100% VG (and mg/mL doesn't matter for this example), and I know I want 25% (of total recipe) flavor concentrate which is in 100% PG. I want my finished ratio to be 50%PG/50%VG.
That means 50% of my recipe is going to be made up of PG ingredients. My flavor concentrate is PG based; and I need 25% (of total recipe) flavor concentrate according to my recipe. 50% PG, minus 25% PG flavor concentrate, leaves me needing to add 25% additional plain PG. <25% PG flavor + 25% plain PG = 50% total PG>
The other 50% of my recipe is going to be made up of VG ingredients. My nicotine concentrate is VG based; and I need 10% (of total recipe) nicotine concentrate according to my recipe. 50% VG, minus 10% VG nicotine concentrate, leaves me needing to add 40% additional plain VG. <10% VG nic + 40% plain VG = 50% total VG> The resulting recipe looks like:
10% ?mg/mL VG nic concentrate
25% PG
40% VG
25% PG flavor concentrate
100% Total
If we use your recipe as an example, we see that it has:
5% flavor concentrate (in a 100% PG base (assumed; most common base)) <5% of 15mL=0.75mL>
plus
17.2% additional PG <17.2% of 15mL=2.58mL>
resulting in
5% + 17.2% = 22.2%
total PG <22.2% of 15mL=3.33mL>
26% nicotine (in a 100% VG base) <26% of 15mL=3.9mL>
plus
51.8% additional VG <51.8% of 15mL=7.77mL>
resulting in
26% + 51.8% = 77.8%
total VG <77.8% of 15mL=11.67mL>
22.2% PG + 77.8% VG = 100% of the total mix <3.33mL + 11.67mL = 15mL>
Percentages add up to 100%. Milliliters add up to 15mL. The numbers agree with the calculator.
And...
because of the desired target nicotine level, PG/VG ratio, and ingredients used... YES; you would use more nicotine concentrate, than PG, for this
particular recipe. If you were to use nic in a PG base (or PG/VG blend, and/or a different mg/mL strength), and/or you wanted more or less flavoring(s), then the numbers (both percents and volumes) would change.)
My main concern is going to the shop and asking for high nic, he just drops some drops of nic in his house flavors.
The other thing I would point out (and the reason I quoted your sentence a second time
), pertains to what he isn't telling you. Yes, he
is adding nic concentrate and making the premade e-liquid stronger.
BUT, he is also diluting (weakening) the flavor concentration,
AND altering the PG/VG ratio... by however much extra nic concentrate he adds. So if he is using VG based nic, he is diluting the flavor, and increasing the VG (while decreasing the PG) ratio. And, if he is using PG based nic he is diluting the flavor, and increasing the PG (while decreasing the VG) ratio.
Will this be noticeable? It depends on how much he has to add, and your own personal awareness, perception, and sensitivity to the given recipe plus the adjustment. I imagine very few would pick up on a 1 or 2 percent change, while many (most?) would notice a 50% adjustment.
Anyhow, I hope this helps you to understand how ingredients affect a recipe and its ratios, and not add to your confusion.
Best of luck!
Joel