End of the 36mg?

[gjrhine]

If an analog were eliquid how may mg's would it be?

 

[wegster]

Do you people ever search this forum for higher nic levels? Can you not find anything higher from any of the supporting members?

Sure, well ok, some do, and is obvious from *many* threads, many do not.
I have some 48mg liquid right now.

However, that isn't economical by comparison when I can get 1L for around the price of 'not very many' 30ml bottles from 'most suppliers.'

I do hope someone in the US both runs with keeping 36mg and 48mg alive, as *well* as offers bulk purchasing prices, would make me very happy indeed.

 

[wegster]

If an analog were eliquid how may mg's would it be?

No one can really answer that right now definitively. A recent study posted would seem to indicate the amount of actual nicotine that does get absorbed into your system is much less that at first expected, as much as possibly 1/10th less.

Check the Newbie forum sticky on equating to analogs, I think it has both the 'original math/thinking' and a link to the study in question I mention here.

Edit - here's the thread:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nverting-e-cigs-regards-nicotine-content.html

And the 'new report':
http://www.e-cignews.com/items/Dr_Laugesen_s_report_on_the_Ruyan_e_cigarette_as_shown_to_th

And a quote from that article:

"Six puffs every 5 minutes would deliver the same dose of nicotine delivered by shallow inhaling from one tobacco cigarette every hour". That means 72 puffs of an electronic will give a user the same amount of nicotine as they would get from shallow inhaling one cigarette. He used 16mg e-liquid in his tests (what is commonly called 'High') to get these figures.

 

[Glock]

^^

Thank you for the links, etc. While I have read a ton here, there is a ton of information to hunt out. Those two links sum it up nicely. I know I came across the "new" study, and suspected the same with regard to upper airways based on personal experience. I did not realize that even deeper inhaling does nothing whatsoever. As most noobs, the first day or so I could not figure out how to inhale, but I loved smoking it like a cigar and felt really relaxed in doing so. Now that I inhale most of the time (only letting a few puffs linger in my mouth at times to taste the flavor which BTW I would never recommend doing with an analog, yuk), I find I do not seem to feel the nicotine as much as when I would just puff and enjoy the vapor in my mouth (like a cigar).

Think I'll see if I can stop inhaling the vapor or at least as often. It would probably be best not to inhale anything anyways, but I do like the throat hit, etc. It is very relaxing and tasty to puff it like a cigar, but hard to stop inhaling by nature once you figure it out..

Anyway, Just wanted you to know that others are getting use out of the effort you put into this post...

 

[dawnmarie]

Great article....I just get tired of the stuff going away scare...when suppliers still have it..I understand being responsible (48) but 36 is great i dont like to order anything under
that//not to vape straight but to make my mixes..and cuts and keep my supply up..

Also i always miss the deals suppliers have going on... Im on here all the time and finally I got a deal from Myfreedomsmokes... 36mg is not going anywhere he is awesome and will put it in any amount size bottles i want... Perfect.

and there was a small 2 hour sale from vapor great sale....
I look for those deals but they get lost....
thanks dawn

 

[Glock]

....I just get tired of the stuff going away scare...when suppliers still have it..

...36mg is not going anywhere he is awesome and will put it in any amount size bottles i want... Perfect.

Well, at least 90% of what is currently on the market IS going away. If others somehow make it or extract nicotine to add to it, that is a different story. Most suppliers (not sure about freedom smokes, but it sure looks like it since they have all the same flavors) are getting their liquid indirectly from Dekang. This does not mean that some suppliers haven't stocked up on what was out there already and may have 36 for quite sometime (which is what I expect freedom smoke has done since he doesn't even have any YET, but look like he is expecting a big order and probably why he has sneaked a 'plug' into this thread that was effective, apparently). My guess freedom smokes will be giving you Dekang juice (but that is just a guess)...

When suppliers like RD and Eastmall start running out so quick (of the popular flavors and then the rest), you can bet it is going to be a lot tougher to find and if you can find 36 or 48, not sure how safe it will be...

I really don't care to vape what somebody might have extracted in their basement if 48 and 36 starts showing up from random suppliers, but that is just me...

BTW, I just made another order for some 36 last night, no problem, but I expect it to be a problem soon which is the only reason I did.

Dawn there are plenty of suppliers that still have 36 in stock and there is one that is a U.S. supplier but not a sponsor here (I think). He is having a sale today $6.50 for 15ml (not bad at all) and you would not have to wait until the 22nd. Sale is only for today. PM me if you want a link... I bought 150 or so ml last night (well early this morning, haha) He has plenty of 36 in most flavors...

 

[Glock]

Cool, sorry if I made any assumptions, I did try to preference any assumptions.
My point is that ost of the 36mg on the market WILL be gone. I do hope someone such as yourself steps to the plate and fills the void.

I'll check out your forum. Hopefully you can or do provide some information on the process and/or safety measures, etc.

I definitely look forward to NEW responsible juice manufacturers.

Sorry if I seemed skeptical. It is just odd that everyone has more or less the same flavor and now that I remember think you had some varieties that I forgot about like vitamin, etc. when I made this post.

Again, I'll check out your forum and hope to purchase quality juice from you in the future. Hoping you give a enough information to provide reassurance on the nicotine, safety measures, etc. over in your forum which is something we have not seen from even Dekang other then just basic reassurances and a presence here, etc. I guess we all gambled on them and the current juice...

Oh, duh, sorry, that last statement wasn't directed at you. I can see how it would seem it was. I apologize.

 

[dawnmarie]

i missed the last post i wasnt home today...but it was deleted..i am here looking for good deals ..because of the ban stuff i just want to be ready and a good supply... I just wish there was a deals forum instead of looking up and d own and everywhere then i miss the one hour sale or do not have the money right at this min..so a deal forum would be great where suppliers can pt up thier deals... i boought a few dif pv the i look and there it is cheaper...i get so mad....
so do you wait and miss out.... or do you buy NOW,, at least freedom is not owrried about me cutting and or what im going to do wth it.... i love making my own mixes.but when i cut i lose flavor....so i have to figure this one out...

thanks dawn

 

[Glock]

After reviewing their supplier forum, I am not so sure, but it appears they get nicotine extract from somwhere in the states and e-juice from China (with double the flavor) and basically just up the nicotine content of the Chinese juice (which I still assume comes from one of the chinese main juice suppliers).

Dekang had this to say in another thread:

It is possible to obtain synethic laboratory grade nicotine from certain sources. Athought in high purity, laboratory grade are not consumable, as are products made in non-food laboratory.

 

[dawnmarie]

SEEE i knew it.....so double the flavor....whe you cut it...you stll have the correct amount of flavor................VERY COOL

 

[dawnmarie]

ya know i just reread that quote........

i dont think so......i dont think anyone would use something that is not on the up and up.........thats is crazy not consumable..im sure that is not what hes doing.. he is a supplier and i have read all his forum along with a few other great sellers here and responable is thoer first goal.... i dont believe that for a min...

that is why he wont sell the 48 now cause of that stuff going around... oh well we lose...

i wuld have loved 48 at double the flavor so i could cut and get twice as much with good flavor....

 

[wegster]

After reviewing their supplier forum, I am not so sure, but it appears they get nicotine extract from somwhere in the states and e-juice from China (with double the flavor) and basically just up the nicotine content of the Chinese juice (which I still assume comes from one of the chinese main juice suppliers).

Dekang had this to say in another thread:

I saw that quote by Dekang, and would love to see *more* detail on 'why it's bad.' Obviously, they have a vested interest in us believing that to be the case, but that doesn't mean it's true..

 

[Glock]

ya know i just reread that quote........

i dont think so......i dont think anyone would use something that is not on the up and up.........thats is crazy not consumable..im sure that is not what hes doing.. he is a supplier and i have read all his forum along with a few other great sellers here and responable is thoer first goal.... i dont believe that for a min...

that is why he wont sell the 48 now cause of that stuff going around... oh well we lose...

i wuld have loved 48 at double the flavor so i could cut and get twice as much with good flavor....

I really wasn't trying to suggest any particular supplier might use something not quit appropriate, just provide a heads up for wherever members might seek out higher nicotine juice. Maybe just something to ask and look out for, whoever you and others get your future +36mg juice from, that was all. I left my own thoughts out of it or tried for the most part...

 

[Glock]

I saw that quote by Dekang, and would love to see *more* detail on 'why it's bad.' Obviously, they have a vested interest in us believing that to be the case, but that doesn't mean it's true..

Agreed and nice post in the other thread... They don't seem to give too direct of answers and probably will not, but that could be expected in their position. Good that they are here to try, that is something.

-edit- Oh and remember that nicotine is/was used as/in pesticide(s). It is certainly possible that you might find nicotine extracted for this purpose. That does not mean there are not other US sources of consumable grade nicotine (wow, consumable grade poison just seems funny to say). After all there is gum and the patch, etc. that nicotine is currently being extracted and/or synthesized for use in.

and that is all I have to say about that

 

[dawnmarie]

lol i agree..... im not going to stop i do not want to see 36 go away.....i think its me nd you in here....

so where is everyone else...that wanted it...

I have faith in the suppliers on here and if they are no good they get weeded out.....

 

[wegster]

lol i agree..... im not going to stop i do not want to see 36 go away.....i think its me nd you in here....

so where is everyone else...that wanted it...

I have faith in the suppliers on here and if they are no good they get weeded out.....

Hey, waittaminut! I currently have 60ml of 48mg on hand, and another 60ml coming!

But yeah, I'd love to see a bit more 'info' as to where some of this is all coming from, including Dekang as well.

 

[dawnmarie]

you doooo i will too soon my order is in...

 

[dawnmarie]

HI Freedom..

do you think you could do starter kits....

sorry wrong place