everything tastes like crap!

[tattoogirl]

omg why now am i having these problems???! I got my kgo kit and was super happy at first then my watermelon started tasting off after a few puffs on my clear 1.25ohm cartomizer. I tried lighter draws and just about everything else. It tasted dry and stale very little flavor. I refilled and same thing. would taste good a few draws then bleh again then it started tasting burnt. I know its not underfilled. I syringe fill and thermometer shake to get all i can in them.

So I switched to a new 1.5ohm clearo and same thing day 2 tasting burnt. Analogs taste like ... to me now and so cant even go back to them. i dont like tasting ...!!!

Everything I have read about these cartos has been good. I have had some that dont fit quite right (quite a few my first order) and while they are cheap if I am blowing through 1 or 2 a day thats as much as my camel lights.

WTF is going on?

Edited to add- not sure if it is normal but sometimes my carto makes a loud pop. If I dont have the cap on the mouthend it will shoot stuff out. normal? is it the cartos or me?

if it matters I am using 35% VG watermelon rancher from quick nic at 18mg and my cartos are smoke tech dcc's from hoosier

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[leftfeild]

My watermelon started tasting off after a few puffs on my clear 1.25ohm cartomizer.
My cartos are smoke tech dcc's.

That could be your problem right there. The Kgo is an ego clone isn't it? I can't use dc cartos with my ego except for the dc meant for the ego. The standard ones are ok for 1 hit then that's it, wet vape that's pretty awful. Worse than a 3omh cartomiser.

Try out the ego labeled dual coils from madvapes. Clear eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer It's a better resistance or more that it doesn't need as much power as other dc's so the ego can actually get them working decently. From the ones I've used it's more like a 3ohm cartomiser in heat but it wicks really well and is greatly consistant.

So I switched to a new 1.5ohm clearo

Oh dear. Sounds like a wicking problem. There's just so much you can do to these to get them to work but it still might not work. They're not great for their intended purpose but the actual coil lasts a long time. It's amazing for dripping with funnily enough.

Ok, here's some stuff you can do if it's a CE2 clearomiser, g4 I have no experience with:

- Take off the tubing (put the clearo on the kgo and wiggle the tube off slowly, easy to do) and push out the seals at the mouth end. The inside seal that goes over the coil cup, cut upside down v's where the slots are already to help get liquid in the cup.

- If you don't want to cut it, take it apart and instead of cutting the seal, just put it back on higher up than it usually would be.

- If you take both seals out you can drip right onto the coil. They are great for dripping on. Defeats the purpose of them but seriously, they are great for just dripping on in terms of flavour.

These should be lasting months, not days. If it's not wicking you need a thinner liquid or you need to raise the inner seal or enlarge the inner seal slots. If it still doesn't wick, just drip on them. Lasts as long as an atomiser.

not sure if it is normal but sometimes my carto makes a loud pop. If I dont have the cap on the mouthend it will shoot stuff out. normal? is it the cartos or me?

Yeah it happens, moreso in dc's I've found too. It's just heated eliquid popping because it's hot. Like if you're frying bacon all the fat pops all over the place, same thing is happening in the cartomiser. Happens less often in an atomiser I find for no real reason but it still happens.

i dont like tasting ...!!!

lol

Well, I hope I helped in some way anyhoo.

You might want to try out a low resistance single coil cartomiser if you prefer more heat. Something like a 2ohm cartomiser or a LR atomiser to drip on. DC stuff seems overhyped; even the ego DC cartomiser is pretty meh compared to just a 2.5ohm single coil on an ego. Maybe they're good on higher drain batteries but you have to keep it more simple on an ego/kgo I find. Nothing so far (to me) has beaten dripping an atomiser in terms of flavour and performance on my ego. But cartomisers 2.5ohm or lower (2.5 - 2.0) are the closest I can get to dripping an atomiser that's portable. Nothing I've used on my ego has topped either of those.

 

[BWG707]

Would a couple drops of Koolada in your juice help with the dryness? Or maybe even some menthol crystals? Maybe some of you DIYers can post your thoughts?

 

[AttyPops]

Some juices burn faster than others. I have a lime flavor that burns easily at "normal" temps. Fruit flavors seem to do this more.

Thin the juice. I thought it was just too hot, but then re-read and saw dcc's (which are cooler). So, unless they aren't wicking properly (too much VG?) I'd try another flavor.

 

[melloyello]

for a fool proof system, get boge 2.0 cartos from crystalclearvaping.com, problem solved. its not your juice , or the battery...the carto is the thief in this drama. 1.25 is a bit too low and ce2s are notorious for wicking problems.

 

[AttyPops]

the 1.5 ohm clearo on the kgo is too hot (it's a 3.7 volt device, not 3.2/3.4 <whatever> like the eGo)... so burnt.

The dcc tho, should not be burning the juice. See post 4. Wicking. Thin? So it is the juice, assuming you can get the dcc to work/wick. Sorry mellow.... But that's not to say mellow is wrong about the boge 2.0 cartos working well on that setup.. .but it changes the equation and avoids, rather than solves, the problem. It's a good suggestion tho. However, you should be able to get the dcc to work.

 

[tattoogirl]

So i decided to vape on the Ms t's snickerdoodle which is higher VG and it is fine. Tastes yummy. She doesnt disclose her ratio of vg/pg but the sight does say it has more VG then PG. If it were my juice causing the problems (being too thick) wouldnt that cause my problem to be worse? Not saying you are wrong at all cause im a noob that knows very little but trying to troubleshoot the problem.

I am of course using a different 1.5 DCC on the snickerdoodle.. but i am assuming it isnt a bad carto since 2 in a row did this with my watermelon rancher.

I would be more then happy to mail the 2 cartos to someone full of ejuice if there is a way to check them out?

 

[tattoogirl]

I have never opened up a cartomizer lol. I should do that sometime. maybe one of hte ones giving me a problem.
I dont so much care how much heat i get as long as the good flavor a bit of TH and some vapor is there.

I have tried dripping on my atties with the joye 510t I have and the kgo atty. I am always afraid im going to flood the atty with too much liquid is that possible?

That could be your problem right there. The Kgo is an ego clone isn't it? I can't use dc cartos with my ego except for the dc meant for the ego. The standard ones are ok for 1 hit then that's it, wet vape that's pretty awful. Worse than a 3omh cartomiser.

Try out the ego labeled dual coils from madvapes. Clear eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer It's a better resistance or more that it doesn't need as much power as other dc's so the ego can actually get them working decently. From the ones I've used it's more like a 3ohm cartomiser in heat but it wicks really well and is greatly consistant.


Oh dear. Sounds like a wicking problem. There's just so much you can do to these to get them to work but it still might not work. They're not great for their intended purpose but the actual coil lasts a long time. It's amazing for dripping with funnily enough.

Ok, here's some stuff you can do if it's a CE2 clearomiser, g4 I have no experience with:

- Take off the tubing (put the clearo on the kgo and wiggle the tube off slowly, easy to do) and push out the seals at the mouth end. The inside seal that goes over the coil cup, cut upside down v's where the slots are already to help get liquid in the cup.

- If you don't want to cut it, take it apart and instead of cutting the seal, just put it back on higher up than it usually would be.

- If you take both seals out you can drip right onto the coil. They are great for dripping on. Defeats the purpose of them but seriously, they are great for just dripping on in terms of flavour.

These should be lasting months, not days. If it's not wicking you need a thinner liquid or you need to raise the inner seal or enlarge the inner seal slots. If it still doesn't wick, just drip on them. Lasts as long as an atomiser.


Yeah it happens, moreso in dc's I've found too. It's just heated eliquid popping because it's hot. Like if you're frying bacon all the fat pops all over the place, same thing is happening in the cartomiser. Happens less often in an atomiser I find for no real reason but it still happens.


lol

Well, I hope I helped in some way anyhoo.

You might want to try out a low resistance single coil cartomiser if you prefer more heat. Something like a 2ohm cartomiser or a LR atomiser to drip on. DC stuff seems overhyped; even the ego DC cartomiser is pretty meh compared to just a 2.5ohm single coil on an ego. Maybe they're good on higher drain batteries but you have to keep it more simple on an ego/kgo I find. Nothing so far (to me) has beaten dripping an atomiser in terms of flavour and performance on my ego. But cartomisers 2.5ohm or lower (2.5 - 2.0) are the closest I can get to dripping an atomiser that's portable. Nothing I've used on my ego has topped either of those.

 

[Mindfield]

Sounds to me like either the juce isn't wicking fast enough or the carto isn't full enough (or there are dry spots). Pop off the cap and take a look at the filler. If it looks somewhat dry, put more juice in there. I typically drip fill down the sidewalls until the batting is soaked and it starts to drip out the battery end (rotating as I fill). Once I see that I let it drip until it stops, wipe off the battery end, attach and vape. Never once had a problem with a single carto that way.

Juice with higher VG ratios can also cause problems, being thicker and slower to wick. Generally I try and stick to 20% VG with my cartos and it's worked perfectly. 35% doesn't sound like much more, but it may be enough to cause wicking problems if you vape faster than it can soak through to the coils, especially if the vendor doesn't thin the VG first.

 

[tattoogirl]

if its the VG ratio wouldnt the ms t's be worse then the watermelon since it is over 50% VG?

mindfield- yep i fill like you do til its dripping out the end.

 

[Mindfield]

if its the VG ratio wouldnt the ms t's be worse then the watermelon since it is over 50% VG?

mindfield- yep i fill like you do til its dripping out the end.

Depends on whether or not she thins her VG (which many do). It's not so much the VG content as the overall viscosity of the juice. If it's thick it won't wick well.

 

[Stosh]

If a juice continues to taste burnt, the easiest fix is to let go of the button sooner, or pulse it on and off while drawings. This will heat the coil a little less, presto - less burnt!!

It may be the watermelon is just a juice you don't like, or at least don't like the way it performs in a DCC... Different juices can perform, taste entirely different in different cartos, or at different voltages. As usual in vaping, it is often a trial and error process.

I would tend to believe many reviews that praise a juice or carto, works well for that person because of the whole of the process. What carto, what voltage, what method of puffing used, how long you hold the button down, everybody does it just a little different.

 

[MadmanMacguyver]

I have had the best luck filling DCCs with a syringe...if you simply used the drip to fill method its likely they aren't fully saturated...another option is the carto condom method...it also guarantees a fullly saturated carto...The Kgo being a 3.7 Device the DCCs should work on it fine...so the options as far as taste are either not full or the juice is not wicking well enough...If you have no objection to it try adding a little PGA to your watermelon juice before filling the carto...that should thin it enough to make it wick better...

 

[thehangdude]

I think the 35%VG qnj watermelon rancher is not wicking fast enough. You can try thinning it SLIGHTLY by adding pga or distilled water. MsTs may already thin her juice enough that it wicks better.

I have used the same juice in a 1.5 dcc, and haven't had a problem. I may not take as many back-to-back hits or as long of hits as you. My son will hot box a carto until it burns if he's not careful. I would say to take it a little slower. If the carto gets hot (and they do), let it cool.

 

[brent_mc]

i've had a few of the 1.25ohm dc cartos do the same thing to me. brand new carto filled to capacity, then one or two puffs later burnt .... i assume what is going on when this happens is that the wicking matirial that is wrapped around each coil is either absent or loosely wrapped. that is why when you top it off you get one or two good puffs, it's saturated, and the coils are wet. like if you were dripping.
when this happens to me i toss them, there is really not much that can be done for the carto,but i do try to blow as much of the juice back into the bottle as i can, so i'm not losing that too. go ahead and try another carto, throw the two in question away, and i will replace the bad ones.

also, the kgo is perfectly capable of driving the 1.25ohm dcc's, and i've never seen a single coil that could even come close to dual coil performance on the kgo. he must be using weak batteries.

 

[caged]

if its the VG ratio wouldnt the ms t's be worse then the watermelon since it is over 50% VG?

mindfield- yep i fill like you do til its dripping out the end.

You also have to take the ingredients and additives in to account. High quality juices work much better than low quality juices so you can get away with higher VG concentrations.

 

[AttyPops]

We're all guessing here... but I agree with wicking comments above. THIN IT OUT. Put some juice in a 3 ml bottle, add 3 drops of water (no more than 10%) and shake the heck out of it. Check that it is thin. Fill.

 

[tattoogirl]

wow long day full of tattoos. anyhow just got done with work and checked in on this. I will try thinning the watermelon. it will suck if this doesnt work as it is my absolute favorite.

I will try it with another carto but i hate wasting the liquid boo and hiss lol
Thanks guys u all rock for all of the help!

oh and wanted to give a shout out for Brent at hoosier man you really are the coolest Absolute fast as hell shipping, almost instant replies to emails and stands behind his equipment. Prices on his DCCs are pretty awesome too. Thanks for rockin ma socks off brent!

OOO and guess what?!!? one of my clients is going to check out this forum and some of the suppliers! I showed her my kgo and let her try my snickerdoodle and she left with a list of links and pages for my favorite suppliers (brent shes coming your way lol) its exciting to share my positive experiences with smokers. told her how much my husband and i have been able to cut down in just 1 week of getting our kgos and she was super stoked to try it out

 

[brent_mc]

No problem, I like to help. I remember how confusing everything was when I started out, so I definitely understand.
Thanks for the referral.

 

[bryansthl]

I use the 2.8 ohm ce2 cartomizers and what I do is use a papper clip to pull the silicone plug cap inside out through the top there are 2 little notchs 1 on each side there clearence for the wick I use a pair of dikes and cut the notchs 3 times larger and then put the plug back in and fill it up this allows it to wick better. When I fill the cartomizer I also drop a few drops on the wick and blow it out the bottom this jump starts the wicking.
Since I've been useing this process they have been working very well I also use almost 100% vg accept for the flavoring has some pg in it. Mine also pop from time to time too.