EVic VTC Mini newbie help burning smell

[luke maher]

Hello, my starter kit arrived recently with a nickel and titanium coil, battery, charger and eGo ONE mega atomiser.
I have had a few problems with it:

There is often a burning smell and taste that makes me cough huge amounts.
The protection mode comes on at times almost immediately.
The whole thing turns off suddenly and randomly even when the battery is secured.

The liquid I use is, granted, very strong. 1.1%, especially for a newbie. I understand this is too much, but it is the only liquid I had available and I wanted to try it out.
The burning taste or metal comes with 80% of the drags I take. It is definitely metal taste - I have the nickel coil installed. To rid this problem I have added more liquid, also in the coil itself as I've heard it must not be dry. I have changed the temperature and wattage settings constantly to no avail. I have used this in Ni mode and VTC mode. I understand it shouldn't be used in Ti or Bypass mode as the kanthal/titanium coils aren't installed. When this taste comes about there is lots of vapour with the disgusting taste. temperature protection mode, however, only tends to come on when it's working as it should. I know this because the grape flavour that I use generally is only present with protection mode. Protection mode doesn't come on when the overwhelming taste and burning smell is present.

Any solutions to this problem - other than using a weaker liquid?

 

[Richu75]

You do lock the resistance before vaping right?

 

[djsvapour]

I don't use this set-up, but your liquid hasn't got much to do with it (if at all).

11mg (1.1%) is strong for high watts, but not strong generally, no.

Certainly only use the correct 'modes' for the correct metal coils.

You never mentioned the watts you have it set to? You choose the watts and the temp on that mod, yes? (no?)

Grape? made by who? 11mg is an old Hangsen favourite.

 

[stylemessiah]

Are you sure with the nickel coil in that you have the VTC Mini set to Nickel mode? There have been reports of the VT (its big brother) Evic VT temp protection?? and the VTC throwing people out of temp control and into vw mode....and you should NEVER vape a nickel coil in vw mode (vw mode meaning just watts, no temp protection). I repeat NEVER.

Are you sure you have a good resistance on the nickel coil? what do the ohms say with the nickel coil in the tank? If the resistance isnt in the range that coil is supposed to be at, then you may have connection issues - a sin it may be loose in the tank or the tank may not be making good contact with the Mini...

You are correct that the coils have to be primed properly before using, otherwise they will burn, and very quickly depending on the coil and whether temp control is enabled. Best practice is to apply drops to the juice holes of the coil until it wont take any more, then assemble and fill tank (making sure you close any airflow holes first), give it a few primer puffs (short draws on the drip tip without firing), and then let it sit for 5-10 minutes before trying to fire it.

Check and repost the strenght of nic you are quoting because i dont know what you mean by 1.1%, most usually refer to the strength in terms of nicotine content and how many milligrams of nicotine or mg

 

[luke maher]

I always lock the resistance. Ive tried it on about 470°F and 20-30W. You can adjust the temperature and watts on the variable tempature (Ni) coil from 0-60W and 200-600°F. For the Power mode you can only change the wattage which in turn changes the voltage.
The liquid is DB Signature. It states it is 1.1% nicotine in PG/VG base - I assume that is in a 1:1 ratio.

 

[luke maher]

I just tried it again. It is in Ni mode. The resistance is 0.20ohms it has gone to 0.24 and 0.17 briefly before but almost always at 0.20. 1.1% nicotine will translate into 11mg of nicotine per gram of liquid.

 

[stylemessiah]

I don't use this set-up, but your liquid hasn't got much to do with it (if at all).

11mg (1.1%) is strong for high watts, but not strong generally, no.

Certainly only use the correct 'modes' for the correct metal coils.

You never mentioned the watts you have it set to? You choose the watts and the temp on that mod, yes? (no?)

Grape? made by who? 11mg is an old Hangsen favourite.

Yup

On the VTC Mini you set the watts to generally anywhere above 30 (suggested by JoyeTech), you can set it to 75 watts if you like, but thats the ceiling, doesnt mean it will use it if in temp control mode of course.

At 430f i used to get maybe 28w in usage in tc with a nickel build at 0.14

There are known issues with the resistance jumping around (even if locked, on some units the resistance lock doesnt even work) and messing with the vape. I know, i sent two of them back.

Ironically the (lack of) useful customer service to those afflicted with said issue was to buy an Ego One tank, which our friend has....

 

[luke maher]

To be honest ive hardly seen the resistance jump around much only a couple of times.

 

[stylemessiah]

I just tried it again. It is in Ni mode. The resistance is 0.20ohms it has gone to 0.24 and 0.17 briefly before but almost always at 0.20. 1.1% nicotine will translate into 11mg of nicotine per gram of liquid.

I hope it isnt what i had.

When did you observe the changes in resistance? what were you doing? And just for a test, can you look at the resistance, and then power it off, wait 5 seconds and power it back on and watch the resistance, does it drop or raise by itself after 2 seconds?

The only time it should really change is when you fire it.

Temp control kicking in almost instantly was also a sympton of mine and others issues.

Id check all the connections (coil in tank, tank on Mini) are snug before doing anything else

 

[djsvapour]

The liquid is DB Signature. It states it is 1.1% nicotine in PG/VG base - I assume that is in a 1:1 ratio.

Two quick comments.

No, 1.1% is 11mg/ml. There is no ratio to consider other than the liquid contains 98.9 parts other stuff to 1.1 parts Nicotine... per ml.

If DB signature is what I think it is... are you in the UK?

 

[stylemessiah]

Two quick comments.

No, 1.1% is 11mg/ml. There is no ratio to consider other than the liquid contains 98.9 parts other stuff to 1.1 parts Nicotine... per ml.

If DB signature is what I think it is... are you in the UK?

I dont do percentages, and barely maths, so well done

 

[stylemessiah]

In other news, feel free to browse the JoyeTech forum on the VTC Mini, you'll find a fair amount of people with temp control and resistance issues:

Joyetech Social - eVic-VTC Mini

At this stage unless its a loose connection in coil and/or tank

I would try:

1) tryng another temp control coil (you do get bad ones) - no point using a kanthal or stainless steel coil in vw mode as that will always work, even on dodgy Minis

2) updating the firmware to the latest

3) thinking about returning it

i returned 2 for resistance and temp control issues and got a Smok TreeBox, same wattage (75w) but more features (but no usb for onboard recharge if thats important), which worked from day one (and for over 3 weeks now, weeks longer than i tolerated the Mini drama), another member who also had the same Mini issues at the same time i did also got a TreeBox and the tanks with coils that wouldnt work on the Mini suddenly started working...

At one stage every time i wanted to vape my Mini i had to remove the tank, press fire to reset the resistance, screw the tank on, and if it was the right resistance go ahead and press fire , if not take the tank back off again....you can see how this drove us with the issues mad...

 

[Robert Cromwell]

We are assuming that you wet down the wick in the coil before you used it.
Also some can taste the nickel in nickel coils.
And as others have said NEVER use nickel coils in Wattage/power mode.

 

[luke maher]

Yes 1.1% is 11mg/ml which is what I said. I mean I don't know what the ratio of pg/vg so I assume it's even. I did that little test and the resistance doesn't change after I power it up.

 

[luke maher]

I will try the titanium coil soon. Can someone give me a step by step to make sure I don't change the coil wrong, especially like little bits such as wet the coil. Thanks.

 

[stylemessiah]

Yes 1.1% is 11mg/ml which is what I said. I mean I don't know what the ratio of pg/vg so I assume it's even. I did that little test and the resistance doesn't change after I power it up.

Well thats something at least

Refer to my previous message...

 

[stylemessiah]

Replacing the coil in the eGo One Mega VT Atomizer.

Priming here:

Setting up your eGo One Mega VT Atomizer.

I would leave it sit for longer than the minute they say though...try 5-10

 

[luke maher]

I will upgrade the firmware also as this would take me to 75W.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

 

[stylemessiah]

I am sadly going to have to bow out, as i just looked at the clock and its like 2:22am here, and i have to be up early...well shortly actually, gonna try and squeeze some z's in

I wish you the best of luck, ill check back later today to see if you got it solved.