*facedesks*

[Orobas]

Rant on.

Don't recommend rebuildables to someone unless you're willing to take responsibility for providing either firsthand instruction on how to rebuild and check the resistance of coils, or you have some resources on hand so that they can teach themselves.

I have a group on the social media platform SecondLife, where I and several other vapers shoot the bucket about what we're vaping tonight or what we're expecting in the mail. Today, the following occurred:

[12:48:38] Newfriend: hii
[12:49:23] Orobas: Hello there.
[12:50:15] Newfriend: i bought a nimbus clone
[12:50:23] Newfriend: and im having some trouble with it
[12:50:57] Newfriend: its a dripper atomizer
[12:52:04] Orobas: not familiar with that atomizer, lemme google it
[12:53:28] Orobas: okay so what is it doing?
[12:55:30] Orobas: well okay i guess marmalade figgered it out.
[12:58:42] Newfriend: hi sry i crashed
[12:58:57] Orobas: welcome back. What is your nimbus doing?
[12:59:48] Newfriend: its coil burns into this bad smell
[13:00:42] Newfriend: and it doesnt produce much vapor
[13:01:12] Newfriend: im using100% v as well
[13:01:19] Newfriend: vg
[13:02:06] Newfriend: when i take the cton out and burn i dry is when you can reall detect the smell
[13:02:16] Newfriend: cotton
[13:02:24] Orobas: burning things smell burny.
[13:02:30] Orobas: what is the coil resistance?
[13:02:47] Newfriend: im not sure
[13:03:08] Orobas: Seriously.
[13:03:15] Orobas: You're rebuilding without checking for shorts?
[13:03:17] Newfriend: i will check
[13:03:34] Newfriend: i havent rebuilt it or anythin yet
[13:03:39] Newfriend: i dont know how to
[13:03:51] Orobas: then why did you buy a rebuildable atomizer?
[13:03:59] Newfriend: but i know that when i vapenth
[13:04:13] Newfriend: the coils start sparking
[13:04:47] Newfriend: so i can vape 100% vg
[13:05:28] Newfriend: its never a nice sizzle with a bi loud
[13:05:37] Orobas rubs her face.
[13:05:43] Orobas: stop.
[13:05:45] Orobas: stop stop stop.
[13:05:50] Orobas: Do you have a multimeter?
[13:05:57] Orobas: Do you know how to use it?
[13:06:09] Newfriend: i dont have one
[13:06:39] Orobas: get one, they're like $10 at harbor freight, or pick up an ohm checker at fasttech or something.
[13:06:57] Newfriend: ok
[13:07:03] Newfriend: ill check the site
[13:07:09] Newfriend: it will probably tell me
[13:07:40] Orobas: $10.08 Atomizer Resistance Tester (Ohm Meter) - 510/808 connector at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
[13:07:51] Orobas: what the site says
[13:07:55] Orobas: and what your actual coil is
[13:08:03] Orobas: are probably entirely two different things
[13:08:40] Orobas: And then you need to watch this so you know what you're doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8FRd_QK3Ls
[13:11:11] Newfriend: what do you think the problem is
[13:13:07] Orobas: I think the problem is you bought a rebuildable atomizer without knowing how to rebuild. Without knowing how to check it's resistance, or even evidently having a working knowledge of ohm's law.
[13:13:18] Orobas: I think whoever recommended it to you did you a disservice.
[13:13:24] Orobas: I think the factory coil has a short in it.
[13:13:46] Orobas: And i think you're running the risk of exceeding your battery's amp limitations and having it fail and vent on you if you continue to use it.

"Why are you so mean, Orobas?"
Because I'm more concerned about your well-being than your feels.

Rant off.

 

[CreepyLady]

You did well with patience...YIKES.

 

[Orobas]

All my wut.

[13:39:55] Newfriend: ill find one with higher omhs
[13:40:24] Orobas: You can't always trust some smuck on ebay to care if what he's sending you is the resistance he says.
[13:40:30] Orobas: YOU MUST BE PROACTIVE AND CHECK IT YOURSELF.
[13:40:41] Newfriend: whateveri need i can probably find it made already
[13:40:56] Orobas: .... are you literally that lazy.
[13:41:02] Orobas: that you can't take
[13:41:04] Orobas: two ....... seconds
[13:41:12] Orobas: to poke the .... with two prongs on a multimeter.
[13:42:12] Newfriend: is that all i have to do
[13:42:26] Newfriend: im a gold digger so im rly lazy
[13:42:33] Orobas: ...
[13:42:37] Orobas: .....

 

[GMayberry]

I have been using RDA's for about a month now. I wanted one 4 months ago, but didn't know enough yet. I felt like I knew enough to finally get a single coil, so I did. Last week, I jumped into my first dual coil. These are nothing to play around with! As previously mentioned, GREAT JOB keeping your patience!

 

[InTheShade]

I agree mostly. If I recommend a rebuildable - especially for use on an unregulated device - I make sure to include a line or two about battery and coil safety.

But I am also of the opinion that if you buy anything, you alone are responsible for doing your own research and using it in a safe manner.

 

[InTheShade]

All my wut.


[13:39:55] Newfriend: ill find one with higher omhs
[13:40:24] Orobas: You can't always trust some smuck on ebay to care if what he's sending you is the resistance he says.
[13:40:30] Orobas: YOU MUST BE PROACTIVE AND CHECK IT YOURSELF.
[13:40:41] Newfriend: whateveri need i can probably find it made already
[13:40:56] Orobas: .... are you literally that lazy.
[13:41:02] Orobas: that you can't take
[13:41:04] Orobas: two ....... seconds
[13:41:12] Orobas: to poke the .... with two prongs on a multimeter.
[13:42:12] Newfriend: is that all i have to do
[13:42:26] Newfriend: im a gold digger so im rly lazy
[13:42:33] Orobas: ...
[13:42:37] Orobas: .....

LOL, that is epic...

 

[GMayberry]

Let me guess... they have it around .2Ω on stacked 18350's right?

 

[edyle]

It's not the rebuildable that's the problem, its the MECH.

A lot of people can save bigtime by getting a rebuildable and a roll of 30 gauge kanthal instead of buying replacement coils, and put that on an ego or regulated mod.

 

[Orobas]

newfriend claims factory spec from the (ebay) vendor was 1.2 ohms. but it's a dual coil and two resistors in parallel are another game entirely. Said she was using it on a spinner so at least there's shortage protection in that.

I more or less agree with you @intheshade, but if we're going to recommend we need to do our part. Still, yes, the buyer must also do theirs.

 

[tazzle]

Don't recommend rebuildables to someone unless you're willing to take responsibility for providing either firsthand instruction on how to rebuild and check the resistance of coils, or you have some resources on hand so that they can teach themselves..

Yes, absolutely! But just as someone navigating things alone, I see so much chatter about vaping generally that makes it seem like you need to be using mechs and reubuilding right away OR GO HOME.

I know I, a very laid-back and usually smart middle-aged lady, was feeling kind of like wut wut WHY AM I NOT ALREADY USING A MECH AND SUB-OHMING AND ... after reading a lot of online stuff when I first started. Six months after starting vaping, I finally built my own (1.5 ohm) coils for my Kayfun Lite to run on my VV devices, and that's totally fine, and feels just right, but I had to forcibly relax the idea that I was a big loser for not jumping right into mechs and rebuildables and sub-ohming, blah blah etc. A young male-type person is probably going to feel that pressure a whole lot more, I'm guessing.

 

[edyle]

Yes, absolutely! But just as someone navigating things alone, I see so much chatter about vaping generally that makes it seem like you need to be using mechs and reubuilding right away OR GO HOME.

I know I, a very laid-back and usually smart middle-aged lady, was feeling kind of like wut wut WHY AM I NOT ALREADY USING A MECH AND SUB-OHMING AND ... after reading a lot of online stuff when I first started. Six months after starting vaping, I finally built my own (1.5 ohm) coils for my Kayfun Lite to run on my VV devices, and that's totally fine, and feels just right, but I had to forcibly relax the idea that I was a big loser for not jumping right into mechs and rebuildables and sub-ohming, blah blah etc. A young male-type person is probably going to feel that pressure a whole lot more, I'm guessing.

Exactly right.
Rebuildables are a desirable way to go for most people, but they are being MISINFORMED by the impression that they need to use a MECH or to subohm.

 

[Alter]

Rant on.

Don't recommend rebuildables to someone unless you're willing to take responsibility for providing either firsthand instruction on how to rebuild and check the resistance of coils, or you have some resources on hand so that they can teach themselves.

I have a group on the social media platform SecondLife, where I and several other vapers shoot the bucket about what we're vaping tonight or what we're expecting in the mail.

Kewl.... Next time I visit Secondlife, I'll be sure to look up some of the vape group(s) in there. I never thought of looking for a vape group in that virtual world.
I play the There.com world mostly but have had a avatar in SL since 2010.