Filling issues

[YMe1121]

i have a couple of gennies, and each time i try to fill them, all that happens is about 1/4 of the liquid goes into the tank, and 3/4 of the liquid ends up going through th wick and onto the deck. i am guessing that i can rewick and leave a small gap in the wick hole to allow for air to go through instead of juice, but i have them wicked to the point of no tilting, and hitting absolutely perfectly for me....

i am using a needle tip bottle that leaves a miniscule gap in the fill hole as well...


any advice?

the to gennies that i am currently using right now are the Diablo V1 Hybrid, and a Sat22, both having the same issues

 

[WattWick]

Haha I have the same issue if I use them straw wicks. Was wondering how people did it. I try to avoid using syringes to fill as I can't be bothered cleaning flavors out of them. I only use them to drain tanks.

When I get around to it, my next wick experiment will be with cutting the mesh like an L - to plug off the top of it, yet try to retain the lesser heatsinking of a straw wick.

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

I've never run in to that issue before, though that being said maybe try a leur lock syringe with a needle that's a smaller gauge (and longer) than the one on your needle tip bottle? Maybe try filling more slowly? Sounds like it has to be a pressure issue, unless your wicks are just that good in which case there may not be much you can do haha I have a Sat22 as well and have always had good luck filling with a syringe.

I have run in to issues in the past trying to fill certain gennies (DID in particular) with the needle tip bottle I have. Instead of coming up through the wick it tends to come back out the fill hole. I think it's because the needle wasn't making it all the way in to the tank and so the surface tension in the fill hole was causing it plug itself.

What mix PG/VG liquid are you using?

 

[snow blind]

I have no issues using max vg in all my gennies with a blunt tip syringe (and all my wicks are straw). I can eve fill my satt with a glass dropper tip pressed firmly into (i should say "on to" as nothing fits in the hole obviously) the hole's opening. I find it's all about going slow.

 

[YMe1121]

for me i have been doing a little experiment as soon as i posted this, the slower i go, the less goes in, and i have found that i can squeeze the bottle very hard very quickly, allow the juice to collect on the deck, and it will suck itself down while the bottle is sucking the air back into it....

and the vg/pg ratio is no higher than a 60/40 blend...

ad i have no idea what kind of wick mine would be classified as.... i just kinda roll them up and go, but i use only 400 mesh on my wicks

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

That seems really strange... I wonder why the pressure is pushing liquid out of the wick hole rather than the air. You aren't filling it upside down or something are you?

Does the needle tip reach to the bottom of the tank on the Sat22? I have the best luck when I fill with the needle basically touching the bottom of the tank.

 

[YMe1121]

on the sat, it goes below the fill hole, but not to the bottom.... on the diablo it goes to the very bottom of the fill hole, but not past it

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

May be worth either finding a needle tip bottle with a longer tip or picking up a leur lock syringe and a couple of needles to give that a try.

I find them to come in handy for a bunch of different things and are pretty cheap to pick up. For gennies with smaller wick holes (like the sat22, nahualon, prometheus etc) I find that using a needle to wrap my coil around works really well and their of a really nice length to work with so that leaving the coil on the needle while mounting doesn't get too awkward.

 

[WattWick]

I think in my case it was just that I happened upon the 'perfect' straw size for regurgitating liquids. My Kraken would spit it all out once liquids got to the wick. The Sat22 has even more of a straw - and does not spit.

 

[Thrasher]

You can also find reg style dripper bottles that use leur locks for tips

 

[Bunnykiller]

odd.... I use an RSST and havent seen that issue...

 

[demonatas]

I've done it a few times, but i just developed a method of queezing in some liquid and pulling my needletip(on a bottle) out and repressurizing it before filling more (aka let go and fill with air).

 

[juicynoos]

Same issue here filling the Kraken, found that tilting tank slightly towards me and filling bottle in other direction helps. Definitely a pressure thing as it only happens when the wicks are in place. I'm sure you'll find a work around.

 

[Vaslovik]

I've never had filling issues with my RSST, and I use a syringe at home, and an Innokin U-can on the go. Never had a problem. I don't have to clean flavors out of my syringe, because I only vape one flavor, my full time vape DIY juice.

 

[juicynoos]

for me i have been doing a little experiment as soon as i posted this, the slower i go, the less goes in, and i have found that i can squeeze the bottle very hard very quickly, allow the juice to collect on the deck, and it will suck itself down while the bottle is sucking the air back into it....

On the Kraken I'm in dual mode using steel rope (with cotton tops) through micro coils which requires almost no tilting of the mod, effectively pressurizing the tank if my fill whole is also blocked when filling. Squeezing the bottle fast, not slow, kinda worked as you say but could result in the 'Niagara falls' effect if not careful

I've been playing around using the syringe method which works fine once the needle tip is covered by juice, no regurg..but hate the bother.
Removing 1 or both wicks also works fine but that isn't really an option if you're using coiled mesh.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

I have a Kracken ad a Persius and have had the same issue with both. I use cotton wicks and build my coils as close to the exact size of the wick hole as possible, but just a little bigger. (I use a q-tip stick for the Kracken and a 3mm jig for the Persius.) Best solution I have found is a blunt needle tip bottle and dry wicks. If my wicks are wet when I start filling, I always end up with a ton of juice coming up through them. If they are dry and I can fill the tank before they can wick up fully, I don't have a problem. You may get a dry-ish hit or 2 trying to empty the tank completely before you refill, but it's a lot better than wasting half a bottle of fluid trying to fill you tank.

 

[Vaslovik]

Okay, now I have a Kraken and I'm seeing the same thing using my Innoken U can. It gets almost full and then the liquid starts going onto the deck. Meh....

 

[demonatas]

MY micro mega with a uwick does this as well, funny .... it is. gotta be pressure based.

 

[Vaslovik]

I'm sure it is, and today I got a little squeeze bottle with the needle tip that gets down into my Kraken, and it worked. You can't squeeze the bottle too hard, you have to take it easy, and also take out the other wick hex plug to let the pressure out while filling. Works for me