First day vaping, tastes like a dance club

[Billion]

So I just got in my dse901 & a JC sampler pack (18mg) today and started vaping and I have a couple questions.

1. Not as much vapor as I've seen in say Grimmgreen's vids when he's on a 901. I heard the attys have a break in period. How long is that period?

2. When does it stop, if it ever does, tasting like I'm standing in front of the fog machine at the dance club?

-Billion

 

[Reillj]

Sounds like you are vaping the primer. unscrew the atty and blow into the end that screws into the battery. Some liquid should come out. You can then drip some on the atty and get a good cloud going; just do it like a cigar for awhile. that should burn off the primer.

 

[NativeTexan]

2. When does it stop, if it ever does, tasting like I'm standing in front of the fog machine at the dance club?

-Billion

If you're like me, the transition from analogs to vapor is quite different. It took me a few days to get used to inhaling the vapor, because like you said, it's like standing in front of the fog machine in a club.

I must say though, now that I am used to it, I like how much smoother it is than an analog cig. Even with the throat hit I get from my 510 and PT, it is nowhere near as harsh as the real cigs.

 

[Billion]

Thanks alot guys.
I did blow through the batt end of the atty as I've read people do with new attys, before I started vaping.
I guess it's just something I need to get used to. I'm very adamant about not going back to analogs. I just need to find some juices I like, in strengths that I can enjoy. I think the 18mg's are a little too much. Helluva throat kick tho!
Again, thank you for your responses!

 

[kcr]

It does taste strange at first--I had forgotten that already.

And remember that the draw on an e-cig is not like an analog. When I first found this site, I was wondering where the vapor was--I watched all the videos and saw these huge plumes of vapor, and mine was barely visible. (I was getting the nicotine, though--weird)

Someone said to think of it like pulling hot liquid through a straw. That helped a lot. Turned out I was drawing way too hard.

Try that.

And anytime you get a new atty, just puff on it and don't inhale for a few minutes. Then you won't taste the nasty primer.

They do have a break in period, and after that they produce more vapor, but the break in time seems to vary from atomizer to atomizer. Sometimes it is a day or two, and sometimes a lot less. (That isn't helpful, I know.)

 

[wdave]

So I just got in my dse901 & a JC sampler pack (18mg) today and started vaping and I have a couple questions.

1. Not as much vapor as I've seen in say Grimmgreen's vids when he's on a 901. I heard the attys have a break in period. How long is that period?

2. When does it stop, if it ever does, tasting like I'm standing in front of the fog machine at the dance club?

-Billion

There should be no break in period at all. Use the straw mod with quilt-batting polyfill that has unidirectional fibers. If that doesn't help, you probably need to pitch the atomizer and buy another one. Sorry, but the DSE901 is not the best choice for quality.

Your problems with juice probably come from the fact that it is Johnson Creek juice. The new JC juices all have a nasty aftertaste. And I believe JC juice clogs atomizers worse than other juices. So figure out which JC juice(s) you like best, then never order JC juice again. Get another brand of your favorite flavor(s).

For my experience with the quality of a DSE901, and how to buy them, look here:

My ECF Extension Blog Archive ::Your choice of a DSE901 or an RN4075

HTH,
Dave

 

[DC2]

There should be no break in period at all. Use the straw mod with quilt-batting polyfill that has unidirectional fibers. If that doesn't help, you probably need to pitch the atomizer and buy another one. Sorry, but the DSE901 is not the best choice for quality.

That's not really the best suggestion in my opinion.
And that is the first time I've ever heard anyone imply that the 901 is not good quality.

It is far more likely that a new user needs to figure out what issues they are having and find out how to resolve them than it is that a new user has a screwed up atomizer.

Your problems with juice probably come from the fact that it is Johnson Creek juice. The new JC juices all have a nasty aftertaste. And I believe JC juice clogs atomizers worse than other juices. So figure out which JC juice(s) you like best, then never order JC juice again. Get another brand of your favorite flavor(s).

Johnson Creek juice is pretty thin, which can be good or can be bad, depending.

But thinner juices are unlikely to "clog" an atomizer.
More likely that they will "flood" an atomizer due to leakage from the cartridge.

I use Johnson Creek Tennesee Cured 70% of the time.
And I love it.

I have learned how to do various things a certain way based on the thickness of the juice.
But you'll have to do that with ANY juice, no matter how thick it is.

 

[wdave]

That's not really the best suggestion in my opinion.
And that is the first time I've ever heard anyone imply that the 901 is not good quality.

Well you might want to try relating your own experience with the DSE901/RN4075 rather than what you heard.

Here's my experience:

One entire black RN4075 startup kit in the trash after a couple of weeks--one battery failed when I dropped it on the ground--I suppose one should take SPECIAL care not to do this

All but one atty from two silver RN4075 startup kits in the trash after a few weeks. But at least one atty and the batteries have held out for over four months. So I can still "kind of" recommend the silver RN4075 at Totally Wicked.

Two white real DSE901 startup kits with attys that produced very weak vapor and batteries that lasted less than a few weeks. I can't even remember vaping the things because basically none of the attys worked. Soaking them in coke dissolved the paint on the attys

Another five spares of white real DSE901 attys from a different source produced very weak vapor.

A manual switch DSE901 battery did not provide enough power to get decent vapor.

A manual switch USB passthru for the the DSE901 did not provide enough power to get decent vapor.

If I have damaged 901/RN4075 batteries by overfilling or dropping the DSE901/RN4075, then I should have damaged batteries by overfilling or dropping the other many ecigs I've tried. But I haven't seen any of them show these weaknesses.

I've made three attempts to resurrect my RN4075 and DSE901 hardware. Every time the hardware ends up back on the shelf, in favor of the much more reliable JOYE 510 or RN4081.

Hope this will help you to take others' opinions with a grain of salt.

Dave

 

[wdave]

Johnson Creek juice is pretty thin, which can be good or can be bad, depending.

Once again, my experience, not an opinion:

After vaping non-JC juices for four months, I resurrected my JC juice because my wife wanted to try the vanilla again. Compared to my current juice, the airflow was extremely poor with the JC juice. So my experience is that JC juice is significantly thicker than other juices I've tried. It clogged my atty less than a day after starting to vape with it.

Concerning this subject, you might want to look at posts by many others in the forum who have shared experiences similar to mine.

HTH,
Dave

 

[Jherek]

I've been using the 901 since July. I've found that it usually takes two to three days for the atomizer to reach maximum vapor output. So far I've learned:

*Clean the nasty primer fluid from the atomizer bridge and heating element by flooding the atomizer and blowing it out. Add a good 5 drops or so of your cheapest juice, or better yet, pure PG. After flooding, blow out all the liquid by breathing into the battery fitting side. Repeat until the fluid blown out of the side hole and top of the atomizer is clear.

After that:

*Go easy on it for the first couple days, and keep the atomizer good and moist, but not flooded.

*Prepared to be surprised when the vapor production comes up to full!

 

[Allestaria]

I use a 901 from Vaporking and have not had any of the issues you have Wdave.

Any electronic devise when dropped can break. That you can not blame on the equipment just the user. I read about several 2 piece devices breaking once they were dropped. It not the product but the users fault.

JC juice sucks. I have had nothing but bad luck with it. All of the flavors seems to taste the same. And leave a really bad after taste. First vape good. Second ok. 3rd.. someone burnt something on my atty.
I will never order juice from them again.

Your safest way of cleaning the atty is to run it under water. Blow it out and repeat. Let it dry over night. Or blow it out until you see no more water coming out. But keep in mind that your breath causes condensation as well. So you could leave some water in the unit.

I would order different juice. And make sure you check your cart often and make sure the filler does not go dry. I drip 4-6 drops after about every 10 puff or so. That will help keep the atty wicked.

At night take your attys off and turn them cart side down on a piece of paper towel and let them drain over night. This will help with build up. You can even rinse and blow.
Rotate your attys as well. I'm planning on having one atty per flavor so I don't have to deal with mixed flavors through out the day.

Slow draws is the key. Primer puff first. Then slow and long. I only draw for about 4 seconds. And I have no problem with vapor. If you draw to hard you can pull the juice from the cart into your mouth.

RN4075 might be the same in looks and feel as the SLB. But they are different. It is easier to draw on the SLB then the knock off RN4075. The sizes are a tad different as well. Not a lot but are just a little different.
Battery life.. 2 Batteries last me all day. But I'm not heavy into vaping just yet. As I only have the JC juice and it sucks. Waiting on my order from Dawn at DIYShack.

If you want something with a much easier set up. Get the Vaporking from either Vapor4life.com with Steve. Or Nhauler from Drew.

This have massive throat hit (IMO) and great flavor. But a bigger learning curve on vapor. Much easier draw but a longer one is needed then the 901.

Just keep in mind its all a learning curve. Vapin is a lot different then smoking. And each device is different per person. I love my 901 and am working on perfecting the vk from vapor4life.

Oh and yes the 18mg from JC was way to much for me. I got sick off of it the first day. Seems 12mg down has worked better for me. Even though I was a 2pack + a day smoker of lights. And I figured 18mg was perfect. WRONG. It was way to much.

You can cut your 18mg with some VG and use it.
Don't shoot yourself in the foot and order another mod until you decide if the 901 is going to work for you. It works fine for me and many other people. And it doesn't work for just as many people. It is a user based decision. Love hate relationship. But only you can decide that. Not me or anyone else.

Give it a fair shot you might decide it is for you. If not Try one of the 2 piece mods.
Any questions feel free to PM me.

 

[kno]

my 901 pt was amazing, the vapor is alot cooler than my other models, and it made quite a bit of it

however the cooler vapor led to condensation in the tip of the cartridge and a bit of juice in the mouth

down side is the passthrough broke within 2 weeks (last night)

got a new one on the way.

 

[kase]

It took me a day or two to figure out how to blow billowing clouds of hiroshima smoke. I think its just technique.

 

[DC2]

Compared to my current juice, the airflow was extremely poor with the JC juice.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what happens with a flooded atomizer.
Which happens much more easily with thinner juice.

So my experience is that JC juice is significantly thicker than other juices I've tried. It clogged my atty less than a day after starting to vape with it.

Concerning this subject, you might want to look at posts by many others in the forum who have shared experiences similar to mine.

See below...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cig-technical-issues/44557-kr808d-1-user-questions.html

Many members have said that the Johnson Creek juice is very thin, and plays havoc on the addys.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/44830-vapors-cough-major-leakage.html

Johnson creek juice is notoriously thin, in case you're using that.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/39631-e-liquid-question-jc-tw.html

My first e-liquid was the Chocolate PG from Johnson Creek, despite all the critics here I like it, it has nice throat hit and flavor, however it doesn't produce too much vapor and the liquid is a bit thin and leaks

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-decided-type-need-help-everything-else.html

Stay away from JC (Johnson Creek) juice IMHO. It's too thin and won't drip well.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/30847-got-my-johnson-creek-juice-today.html

Got several bottles Brandy, Tennesee Cured and JC Origonal. Only opened the Brady so far, but it seemed very thin. I filled up a cart for my 601 pipe and it seemed to start running out as I turned it over to insert. Every other juice I have used stayed in the filler material.

 

[Billion]

Sorry guys, didn't mean to start a fight over which is the best device for a n00b.
My first device ordered was a E9 from E-cig. A day later I read a thread about how they REALLY sucked (the company and the device). That's when I ordered up the 901, which incidentally is a true 901 (SLB). I was on the 901 a day before the E9 arrived. Vaped the E9 and didn't like it. Just coming off of a tobacco pipe, I like the long draw opposed to the millisecond draw of the E9. Good vapor from the E9 though. Now I gotta find someway to get the E9 off my hands as I've heard that returns are nearly impossible.
I really like the 901 and don't really see a reason to look for other devices. Just juices. I just need more attys and maybe a manual batt.
Actually, I may try an RN808/VK/Greencig/etc. I like that the 901 attys fit on that batt. Makes for a very flexible device.

Yes the JC stuff tastes weird and I've been cutting it with VG because the 18mg is too much. BTW, I just ordered some 6mg VG Flu cured from a vendor. Even when I cut the JC 40/60 it's still a little strong. But there is very little flavor. I've found I like the taste of the VG WAAAY better.

Everyone, thanks for all the advice!

 

[silkyblue]

Slow draws is the key. Primer puff first. Then slow and long. I only draw for about 4 seconds. And I have no problem with vapor. If you draw to hard you can pull the juice from the cart into your mouth.

This is the best advice so far. I'm on my second day and that's what I've learned. And as she says, top it off from time to time, depending how often you're using it. I'm still working on getting the hang of it, so just enjoy the journey!

 

[wdave]

To curb the thread debates over the reliablity of DSE901, I'll be publishing my experience with the DSE901 on my blog site and refering to it from other threads. Look here:

My ECF Extension Blog Archive ::My bad experience with the DSE901

HTH,
Dave