First Igo-W dual coil build (pics)

[humpstyles]

Sup guys,

Finally got in my custom topcap for the Igo-W so I decided to dig in and throw dual coils on it. I can successfully build on a Kayfun 3.1 tobeco clone, and have done endless EVOD head rebuilds, so I thought I could jump into a dual coil instead of starting with a single.

Both are 28ga 11/12 wraps around 1/16" needle which results in .75-.80 ohms.

I think I put the bare minimum of cotton in, and I dripped each wick with about 9 or 10 drops. For a better idea, there's a bit of loose juice on the deck. The cap I'm using has 1/16" airholes. Since i'd consider myself a little above an 'intermediate vaper', I was hoping any experts here could maybe check out the pictures and tell me if they see anything noticeably wrong or that needs a little adjustment.

Also, what wattage would one prefer to vape this at? The juice is 50/50 6mg Strawberries and Cream which hasn 't given me any problems on the Kayfun. The taste is extremely muted anywhere from 12w to 14w. 15w seems to be working the best for me, as anything 16w and above starts to give me the ole' metallic taste. It tastes faintly like the smell of your tweezers after your torch a compress coil, if that makes sense. Barely any strawberry. In terms of reference, my microcoil'd EVOD outperforms this tenfold, and the KF3.1 clone, moreso. I feel as if drippers are always so happy with the ridiculous flavor, and "being able to taste everything" compared to other toppers like Gennys or RTAs. Always have to run into trouble somewhere!



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Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer some advice!

 

[humpstyles]

Mods,

I didn't see that there is a sub-forum for Coil Builds. Could you kindly move me over? Thanks

 

[humpstyles]

Man, no love at all!? Yikes...

 

[emus]

I prefer coils in crow's flight path.
I prefer coils closer to air feed.
I prefer 20 to 30 watts for lung inhale dual coil.
I've started running spacer coils because tight touching coils sometimes produce out of control dragon.
Otherwise I like it.

 

[humpstyles]

I prefer coils in crow's flight path.

What is crow's flight path?

I prefer coils closer to air feed.

So extend the coils out further from the posts, correct?

I prefer 20 to 30 watts for lung inhale dual coil.

Anything over 16 watts was given me burnt juice taste. I didn't even want to try 20w + due to the off-putting chance of dry hits.

I've started running spacer coils because tight touching coils sometimes produce out of control dragon.
Otherwise I like it.

I'm sure you know, but these are microcoils. You're saying I should wrap my coils freehand and not use a drillbit to wrap around? I vaguely know what a dragon coil is, but what does "out of control dragon" mean?

Thanks for the response..

 

[emus]

What is crow's flight path?
So extend the coils out further from the posts, correct?
Anything over 16 watts was given me burnt juice taste. I didn't even want to try 20w + due to the off-putting chance of dry hits.
I'm sure you know, but these are microcoils. You're saying I should wrap my coils freehand and not use a drillbit to wrap around? I vaguely know what a dragon coil is, but what does "out of control dragon" mean?

Thanks for the response..

Hey, hows you during. Looks like only you and me in hereohh

Secret #1. Many seem to think that air flows horizontal in side air feed topper. Instead, think of air flowing in the shortest path from air feed to drip tip entrance. As the crow flies. Think of air flowing at an angle from air feed hole to drip tip hole.

I would position coil about 1/16" from your 1/16" air feed hole. Position coil at elevation higher than air hole. Try to get coil in the air flow.

If your burning then you need to wick differently. Your wick could be too loose or too tight. Lower VG juices wick easier. But 100% VG will wick good if wick is right.

Your micro coil looks good but I now keep the coils separated. Can take your coil and pull it apart so gases can vent between coils. This has yet to catch on by mainstream vapers.

Test fire your coil w/ cap off. If any vapor shoots out sideways that is dragon's breath. I don't like dragon's breath blowing off to the side.
YMMV.

 

[benosa562]

You space out your microcoil? Does it still light up evenly from inside to out? Can you take a pic of your coil

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[BigCloudz]

First coil? The future is bright, danielson. =P

Can't help on the wattage question as I use nothing but Mechanical devices with my Sony 30a batteries. Even with these DNA30's and such, I still think the best vape you'll get form a sub oil build is from a mech device. I know this is subjective, but I don't mind swapping my batteries every couple hours, or even experiencing a slight loss in power from my battery (about the time it 'should' be sittin on the charger, which isn't always a possibility) due to there being no regulated power from the mod. -- I have heard through the grapevine that the best resistance on a DNA30 cranked up is like .6ish, which to me doesn't make a ton of sense, but who am I? lol..

To avoid the finagling, i'd invest in a intro level mech (my vote goes to the Magneto) and see how you like it. Buy a 4 pack of Sony 30a (2100mah) and you should be golden, man.

Nice looking coils, keep up the good work and enjoy!

 

[humpstyles]

Ahhh BigCloudz, the reasoning for my purchase of a DNA30 XPV was to stay away from mechanical mods! I know you'll tell me otherwise, and so will thousands of other vapers on here, but I enjoy knowing that there is basically a 0% chance of anything hazardous happening with a DNA device. Yes, yes, if I take precautions, there is virtually 0% hazard with mech mods too, but you know as well as anyone that they can certainly be dangerous if not kept an eye on.

 

[BigCloudz]

Ahhh BigCloudz, the reasoning for my purchase of a DNA30 XPV was to stay away from mechanical mods! I know you'll tell me otherwise, and so will thousands of other vapers on here, but I enjoy knowing that there is basically a 0% chance of anything hazardous happening with a DNA device. Yes, yes, if I take precautions, there is virtually 0% hazard with mech mods too, but you know as well as anyone that they can certainly be dangerous if not kept an eye on.

Haha- The fear of anything bad happening from a mech is the last thing I worry about. I have done everything they say you're NOT supposed to do (before I got online and did my homework of course), and I have had 0 problems. You almost have to try to blow something up in all honesty. In fact, personally, I have seen more 'accidents' and bad things happen with the cheap chinese made VV/VW mods like the c-twist (and alternatives) than I have with mechs. Just because something is 'regulated' doesn't mean the wiring, equipment, and person who put it together was 'regulated' =P... If you use 30a+ batteries and build right there on a ohm reader and check to make sure you aren't shorting out, you have a VERRRRRRRY small chance of anything bad happening =)

 

[Joka]

Check my thread about my caravela and patriot shorting and melting in my bag while I was working. Lol

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[emus]

You space out your microcoil? Does it still light up evenly from inside to out? Can you take a pic of your coil

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This 3 hole topper is well suited for spacer. The coil width covers all 3 air feeds:

This spacer is probably too wide for one air feed but still works good. My 6 IGO-L builds are still competing for champion. One spacer coil pro is you can see if wick is burnt.

My next coil will be a spacer coil with small gaps between coils.

 

[humpstyles]

Well, I am going to bring my vape kit into work tomorrow since no one else will be in the office and try to re-do my set-up. BigCloudz, we can discuss the pros and cons of my buying a mechanical mod another time; for now, I want to work on the Igo-W on top of my DNA30.

The only insight I really have so far is to not make a "microcoil" meaning not have all coils solidly touching each other, but to allow each wrap to have a bit of space between to allow more breathing room. And also to angle the coils so that they serve as a "connecting tube" from the cap's airholes pointing in the direction of the drip tip (I have seen this done plenty of times, and obviously, the natural way the legs come off the coil, one top and one bottom, would allow for this natural 'tilt' to occur).

I'll post a bunch more pictures tomorrow with my second attempt.

Btw, one more time, I am working with organic cotton, do not want to go back to silica, and I am firing it on a DNA30 device, the XPV by Protovapor (love this thing).

 

[emus]

Here are my 6 IGO-W that I'm testing. Have 6 IGO-L I'm texting also. I don't angle coils. Current Sxd micros are good. Twisted are good. Spacers are good. I had a few dragon breath issues w/ tight micros; but there are likely pros and cons to each style. I know all six work good. I will determine my champion as time goes on. I will build some more spacers too.

 

[Dlovell]

I think your build looks good. The closer to the airhole the coils are, though, the more flavor. Further away, less flavor, more throat hit. You'll see the resistance go up up slightly when you pull the coils away from the posts.

The burning taste, in my opinion, has to do with your wicking. 15 watts is super low power on a subohm, even slightly subohm coil. Play around with the amount of cotton you use and you should find that you can max out that dna30.

You might want to raise the coils. I can't tell from the pictures, but if they sit in a puddle of juice, the vape will suffer.

 

[Xaviour]

So glad to have found this thread. Just got my igo w last week and trying to get the best vape from it. I had 8 coils wrapped and waiting for it. Some regular 5/4 coils with 32 ga, some micros with 10 wrapps and 14 wrapps of 28 ga on 1/16 drill bit. I've been using single coils until I get the one I want. Also been just using a bed of organic cotton and putting the micro coil on it as I hate trying to get cotton wick just right, not to tight and not to loose. I also drilled out one hole on the cap to 1/16 and covered the other for better airflow. Seems to be OK but still looking for better. Current coil is 1.5 ohm on an mvp2 running between 7 and 8 watts. Will take some pics when I change my cotton later today. Any advice?

 

[Xaviour]

Gunky
Clean
soaked with MBV cinnamon roll
Firing

 

[emus]

So glad to have found this thread. Just got my igo w last week and trying to get the best vape from it. I had 8 coils wrapped and waiting for it. Some regular 5/4 coils with 32 ga, some micros with 10 wrapps and 14 wrapps of 28 ga on 1/16 drill bit. I've been using single coils until I get the one I want. Also been just using a bed of organic cotton and putting the micro coil on it as I hate trying to get cotton wick just right, not to tight and not to loose. I also drilled out one hole on the cap to 1/16 and covered the other for better airflow. Seems to be OK but still looking for better. Current coil is 1.5 ohm on an mvp2 running between 7 and 8 watts. Will take some pics when I change my cotton later today. Any advice?

Keep building till you achieve nirvana.
I've built a few cotton beds or clouds but they were defeated by my other builds.
May try another one later; maybe they weren't setup just right.
How's she vape, BTW?

 

[Xaviour]

Pretty well. I just put in a 14 wrap micro with cotton through the coil based on rip trippers and deffinatly did not taste as well. Just pulled it and putting a bed back in.
Edit... having one end of the coil blocked with cotton seems to give a better taste.

 

[emus]

Pretty well. I just put in a 14 wrap micro with cotton through the coil based on rip trippers and deffinatly did not taste as well. Just pulled it and putting a bed back in.

My bed works good but the burn sneaks up fast. Have to be sure bed is saturated. My through coil wicks give a little taste warning before the burn. The more wraps a micro has the more challenging the wicking becomes. My 0.12" wide micro wicks great but I had a much wider micro I gave up on because it burned juice in the middle.

My bed makes topper hotter than through coil wick. Maybe I should play w/ smaller cotton bed.