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Shawn Hoefer

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I'm looking in buying my first mech mod and just looking for recommendations for my first one I took a look at the vgod pro kit and the bonza kit so far anything you guys could suggest looking at .
Consider the Mech Pro box. Parallel boxes have a lot more safety than single tubes (ohms law... Parallel cells allow for higher current and less strain on the batteries), and this one has a form of reverse battery protection.

If you're thoroughly stuck on the idea of a tube, a do net start with a hybrid. The NATO and Broadside family hits hard AND have a 510 pos pin.
 

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@Shawn Hoefer I have to respectfully disagree parallel is safer than series. Used correctly there is little difference, but if there was anything to separate them the use of very low resistance coils with higher wattage parallel builds may have associated safety issues. Also high current systems are less efficient and more stressful on batteries. I agree that a hybrid style 510 is a bad idea.

@the dog what wattage do you normally vape at as this will dictate whether a single battery tube mech is suitable for you. If it's more than 50 watts then a dual battery mod will be better suited. There are batteries that are good up to 75 watts but your run-times will be horribly short.
What batteries are you planning on using and are you familiar with ohms law and the prerequisite safety regimens associated with mechanical devices?

Here is reading you may find useful -

(8) A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Safety | E-Cigarette Forum
Understanding Battery Capability/Capacity | E-Cigarette Forum
Ohms/Watts Law - Calculating safe amp usage | E-Cigarette Forum
Understanding the relationship between power and coil resistance | E-Cigarette Forum
 

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I'm looking in buying my first mech mod and just looking for recommendations for my first one I took a look at the vgod pro kit and the bonza kit so far anything you guys could suggest looking at .
Having had the vgod pro for a few months with no issues using the mech mode mostly at high watts low ohms, so recommended for your choice.
 

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@Shawn Hoefer I have to respectfully disagree parallel is safer than series. Used correctly there is little difference, but if there was anything to separate them the use of very low resistance coils with higher wattage parallel builds may have associated safety issues. Also high current systems are less efficient and more stressful on batteries. I agree that a hybrid style 510 is a bad idea.
Agreed, but a parallel system will provide at least a little buffer for those that, following the example of some idiot youtuber, slap a 0.08Ω build into an RTA with no protruding center pin...

No such hope on a single tube. And, on a series? Game over, man! Game over.

For someone with knowledge and experience, a series, a parallel, and a single offer similar risks. For someone with little knowledge and no experience, not so much...
 

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@Shawn Hoefer I have to respectfully disagree parallel is safer than series. Used correctly there is little difference, but if there was anything to separate them the use of very low resistance coils with higher wattage parallel builds may have associated safety issues. Also high current systems are less efficient and more stressful on batteries. I agree that a hybrid style 510 is a bad idea.

@the dog what wattage do you normally vape at as this will dictate whether a single battery tube mech is suitable for you. If it's more than 50 watts then a dual battery mod will be better suited. There are batteries that are good up to 75 watts but your run-times will be horribly short.
What batteries are you planning on using and are you familiar with ohms law and the prerequisite safety regimens associated with mechanical devices?

Here is reading you may find useful -

(8) A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Safety | E-Cigarette Forum
Understanding Battery Capability/Capacity | E-Cigarette Forum
Ohms/Watts Law - Calculating safe amp usage | E-Cigarette Forum
Understanding the relationship between power and coil resistance | E-Cigarette Forum
@Shawn Hoefer I have to respectfully disagree parallel is safer than series. Used correctly there is little difference, but if there was anything to separate them the use of very low resistance coils with higher wattage parallel builds may have associated safety issues. Also high current systems are less efficient and more stressful on batteries. I agree that a hybrid style 510 is a bad idea.

@the dog what wattage do you normally vape at as this will dictate whether a single battery tube mech is suitable for you. If it's more than 50 watts then a dual battery mod will be better suited. There are batteries that are good up to 75 watts but your run-times will be horribly short.
What batteries are you planning on using and are you familiar with ohms law and the prerequisite safety regimens associated with mechanical devices?

Here is reading you may find useful -

(8) A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Safety | E-Cigarette Forum
Understanding Battery Capability/Capacity | E-Cigarette Forum
Ohms/Watts Law - Calculating safe amp usage | E-Cigarette Forum
Understanding the relationship between power and coil resistance | E-Cigarette Forum
I usually run on regulated mods between 30 to 60 watts and I plan on running Sony vtc5 with the mech mod and I usually build my coils at 0.3 to 0.7 ohms
 

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I usually run on regulated mods between 30 to 60 watts and I plan on running Sony vtc5 with the mech mod and I usually build my coils at 0.3 to 0.7 ohms

Then it sounds like you're good to go. The only issue I see with both the Vgod and Bonza is they're hybrid mechs. I guess so long as you're using the kit, which is how true hybrids were originally designed, is you get them with the rda made specifically for them. Using a different rda on a hybrid (faux hybrid) does carry risks. If you go with a tube with a 510 connector like the ones Shawn recommended, you'll have lots of flexibility and certainly more safety.
 

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Then it sounds like you're good to go. The only issue I see with both the Vgod and Bonza is they're hybrid mechs. I guess so long as you're using the kit, which is how true hybrids were originally designed, is you get them with the rda made specifically for them. Using a different rda on a hybrid (faux hybrid) does carry risks. If you go with a tube with a 510 connector like the ones Shawn recommended, you'll have lots of flexibility and certainly more safety.
Thanks that sounds like the difference between hybrid and 510 connector is what I need to educate myself thanks
 

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Thanks that sounds like the difference between hybrid and 510 connector is what I need to educate myself thanks

In a hybrid the 510 pin is in direct contact with the battery. If the center positive pin does not protrude far enough, the negative thread portion could also make contact, resulting in a hard short. Not a good thing with the 20-30A batteries we use. With a 510 connector, the tank does not make direct contact with the battery and the typically floating center positive 510 on the connector helps compensate for any variations that may be present from tank to tank. Yes, if you still manage to bridge the positive pin and the negative threads bad things happen too, but the likelihood is much lower.
 
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IDK, my definition of low resistance on a mech is 0.3 ohm. I prefer 0.5 ohm builds for myself. If I build some dual coil 0.15 ohm setup it goes on my regulated mods. I'm happy, my batteries are happy, and I'm sure my local fire department is happy.

Curious, what kind of building at you using for 0.5? I can't get anything warm or dense at <4.0-4.2V using anything higher than 0.26 or so. I'd like to get something a bit higher resistance for when i'm using a mech away from my home and battery stash.
 
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Curious, what kind of building at you using for 0.5? I can't get anything warm or dense at <4.0-4.2V using anything higher than 0.26 or so. I'd like to get something a bit higher resistance for when i'm using a mech away from my home and battery stash.

I use a something wrap plain Clapton with a 28G center. I prefer the slower ramp up of the Clapton and it doesn't get too hot for me. I'm usually a TC vaper so I prefer moderately warm vapes, not the hot vapes typical (at least for me) of rapid ramp up with a simple like 24-26G simple round. Weird, I know but it's a pure preference type thing. I also find the vape "smother" as the voltage falls off versus a simple round. I think that's because with a round the fast damp up and getting too hot after two seconds the falloff is more noticeable than the Clapton which stays on the cooler side throughout.

Yes, an atypical way to build for a mech, but I find it more satisfying. Call me crazy. I'm not a huge fan of looking for a really hard hitting vape.
 

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Yes, an atypical way to build for a mech, but I find it more satisfying. Call me crazy. I'm not a huge fan of looking for a really hard hitting vape.
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Curious, what kind of building at you using for 0.5?
I always aimed for a 0.6 ohm build on my mech. I typically made two 1.2 ohm coils from 26 g kanthal to make 0.6 ohm total. Simple, compressed coils.

I prefer a cooler and more flavorful vape.

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