First try: New Ikenvape carto on new IBTank

[EL Pistoffo]

Just tried out my new Ikenvape XL Platinum Punch LR carto on my new IBTank with HHV Legend 18mg 70/30 PG/VG juice. Very different from my mini-PT 2. I'm using it on MVP 2 at the moment. The carto reads 2.3 ohms on my mod. What wattage should I limit myself too (safe max)? I haven't ventured past 8 watts but there is more flavor at 8 than there is at 6 or 7. I just don't want to go too far and singe it.

VV wise on an ego twist what would be a safe voltage limit.

Looking to see if it can put out a little bit more flavor, it seems muted. One thing is for sure, it sure has TH, it's killing me.

Edit: In all fairness I think I'm coming down with a sore throat infection. I've been getting major throat burning since I woke up today. Taking some meds to fight of this infection.

 

[TheJakeBailey]

Based on my experience over the last month, day two of a carto seems to be when the flavor really comes out. Sometimes amazingly so! Waiting for my ikenvapes to arrive so I can try them for the first time also!

 

[EL Pistoffo]

Based on my experience over the last month, day two of a carto seems to be when the flavor really comes out. Sometimes amazingly so! Waiting for my ikenvapes to arrive so I can try them for the first time also!

I sure hope your right because the only thing i'm impressed with so far is the consistency of the vapor, not the flavor.

 

[TheJakeBailey]

I sure hope your right because the only thing i'm impressed with so far is the consistency of the vapor, not the flavor.

Almost ever one I've tried has really popped either after a few hours, or the next day. Whichever comes first lol. I do have a few flavors that I still prefer in a pro tank, and one I don't like in anything but a vivi nova. I'm glad I've acquired a few different toppers to experiment with. .

 

[Baditude]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartomizers/501616-ikenvape-fusions-platinums-s-series-whats-difference-how-they-vape.html#post11530185

 

[TCO76]

Not to be a debbie downer but I have an ibt 22mm with both lr and sr cartos. I also have 3 protank 2s, and 2 aspire bdc's. I believe that the ibt carto has less maintenance than all my other tanks once primed properly, however as far as taste and TH, I am very dissapointed. Totally mutes the flavor, and I have to draw for like 15 seconds just to get a decent TH. Needless to say my $30 carto just sits there. I am guessing that as time passes and I lower my nic and get further away from my quit date, I will use it again. I dont recommend them to anyone looking for a powerful delivery system. Just my $.02

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

 

[EL Pistoffo]

Well after 1 day of good vaping with my 19mm IBTanked and Ikenvape fusion SR carto it all went south this morning. The carto all of a sudden starting flooding and spitting liquid into my mouth. 1 day was all I could enjoy. Replaced carto, flood again. ...

 

[TCO76]

Sorry to hear. I think vaping preferences can tend to get a bit "cultish" on this forum. Certain long time members can certainly influence the masses. Im starting to think that people who know or work for certain companies, will advertise and "push" certain products on newbs. I cant wait for the innokin iclear30b. Im like you. I just want a good delivery system that isn't gonna require hours of maintenance a week. I didnt quit smoking to have hour long maintenance sessions every other day.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

 

[TheJakeBailey]

Sorry to hear. I think vaping preferences can tend to get a bit "cultish" on this forum. Certain long time members can certainly influence the masses. Im starting to think that people who know or work for certain companies, will advertise and "push" certain products on newbs. I cant wait for the innokin iclear30b. Im like you. I just want a good delivery system that isn't gonna require hours of maintenance a week. I didnt quit smoking to have hour long maintenance sessions every other day.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

Ahh the old everyone works for a vendor conspiracy. Have you by chance met a guy by the name of GoodNews?

Just giving you a hard time. . I don't work for IBT, and therefore get no employee discount. So if you wanna sell me yours cheap, ill buy it. Lol I'm about to order a couple more.

As for the maintenance, once I prime, I'm good to go for at least a week with nothing but refilling in the morning. The one I'm vaping right at this minute has run about 20ml, and still going strong. I'm afraid my 30ml bottle will run out first!

 

[EL Pistoffo]

I can't figure out why mine starting flooding all of a sudden with 2 cartos. I suspected a tank vacuum issue but I cant see a visual problem with the seals. It's a real bummer.

 

[jwag1973]

Sorry to hear about the flooding issues! I just ordered some IKV. Carto's and one was bad. I haven't had any issues like you state, mine wasn't wicking properly. As far as flavor goes, I think it'd be hard to guage with the carto not working properly. Also, mine seem to have great flavor after an hour or so. Don't know if that makes sense, just my experience. Good luck and don't get too discouraged, that set up rocks when working properly.

EDIT: I realized my carto wasn't working correctly because of operator error. I didn't fully prime the carto and burnt it up!

 

[EL Pistoffo]

Don't get me wrong, the flavor and TH from it are phenomenal when it works. But if it's going to not work more than it works then it's pointless. I wanted to get away from the fidgeting and inconsistency of Clearomizers so I went with the carto-tank. This flooding issue is driving me more batty than my PT's do.

 

[TheJakeBailey]

Don't get me wrong, the flavor and TH from it are phenomenal when it works. But if it's going to not work more than it works then it's pointless. I wanted to get away from the fidgeting and inconsistency of Clearomizers so I went with the carto-tank. This flooding issue is driving me more batty than my PT's do.

I REALLY wish I could help! My carto experience has been so great... I haven't had a single flooding issue with smok, boge, or ikenvape, in any resistance or hole combo. And that's in various qualities of tanks. Hope somebody can point you in the right direction!

 

[Baditude]

I can't figure out why mine starting flooding all of a sudden with 2 cartos. I suspected a tank vacuum issue but I cant see a visual problem with the seals. It's a real bummer.

You shouldn't have vacuum issues with an IBTanked. There's no juice fill hole, which can cause vacuum issues; and it has excellent seals to prevent vacuum issues.

One's draw technique can cause flooding issues. Too hard of a draw technique can force too much juice into the carto; again, a nice long, gentle draw of 4 - 6 seconds works best. Heavy vaping or chain vaping can cause both either flooding or dry hits. There really is a leaning curve, where once you "get it" it then becomes second nature to you. I hope you don't get too discouraged at first. I encourage you to keep at it.

Thinner e-liquids can cause flooding. Too many holes for the viscosity of your juice used can cause flooding. (Unfortunately, Ikenvape cartos are only offered with 2 pre-drilled holes to my knowledge.) If flooding continues to be an issue with subsequent cartos, if you order custom-mixed e-liquids request a higher Vg ratio in the future.

I'm stumped on why a cartomizer can be working fine for a day and all of a sudden becomes flooded and spitting juice unless you somehow changed your vaping technique over that period of time.

I wish that I could offer more help.

PBusardo did a great tutorial on cartotanks, and includes a bit on troubleshooting tank issues: PBusardo Cartotank Tutorial & Troubleshooting Guide

RipTripper gives a tip on a cartotank spitting juice into his mouth and what he found to alleviate it: Maximizing Your Cartotank Experience

 

[Asbestos4004]

IBTanked pays me handsomely to tell you our...I mean...their tanks are flawless. Ikenvape just sent me 5000 free cartos and a vette to tell you that our...I mean...their cartos are perfect. I always think those accusations are funny. Something works well for someone who's been at this for awhile and PRESTO!!! He's either the manufacturer, the vendor or the supplier. Its almost enough to make these folks want to quit trying to help. They make drugs to treat acute paranoia.

 

[TCO76]

IBTanked pays me handsomely to tell you our...I mean...their tanks are flawless. Ikenvape just sent me 5000 free cartos and a vette to tell you that our...I mean...their cartos are perfect. I always think those accusations are funny. Something works well for someone who's been at this for awhile and PRESTO!!! He's either the manufacturer, the vendor or the supplier. Its almost enough to make these folks want to quit trying to help. They make drugs to treat acute paranoia.

I honestly don't know why your looking for a fight. Cool it with the insults dude. I was just speaking out of newb frustration and didn't specify anything other than the fact that I am still in search of a delivery system that works best for me. I think mom needs to limit your internet time.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

 

[Utew]

One thing about vaping, as far as I can tell there is no perfect system... yet. For those that have been vaping the longest, I am sure they have seen things get easier(better?) and easier as time has gone along. Certainly the devices have become more varied and plentiful.

My experience is that there is a lot of fine tuning that must be done to find the best vape.. and then it seems the "flavor" goal posts get moved and you spend a lot of time retuning..

Once you hit the "zone" with any device/e-liquid a state of temporary nirvana can be achieved.. but at some point the dream ends and it's back to reaching for that exalted state again.

What could possibly be simpler than setting fire to a small stick of dried leaves? Trying to simplify some thing with so many variables and approximate that oh-so-easy action of just setting something on fire, is pretty damn difficult. To be honest I'm amazed that vaping is as easy as it is, at it's present stage in development.

We have come to expect something approaching near-perfection in our electronic devices.. appliances, computers, cell phones etc. I wonder if our expectations aren't set just a bit too high considering vaping state-of-the-art (as it were).

Cheers!

 

[jwag1973]

I currently own four Ibtanked tanks, three 19mm standards & one 19mm XL. I've only been using this system for a few weeks and haven't had to trouble shoot for flooding yet. I've been through a couple of my new cartos this week not wicking properly. I can't explain it, or figure out why. I completely understand your frustration. Before this week, I've had a trouble free, enjoyable experience. I've been trying to find some definitive info to help with the flooding issue you've got. Just been real busy. Hopefully the links previously posted above will help!

 

[Baditude]

Utew just gave a great summary on juice delivery devices vs analogs. In just 1.5 years since I have begun vaping, these devices have come a long way. I've read that the veterans who have been vaping longer than me only had drip atomizers to vaporize e-liquid. The original tanks were homemade from medical syringes. The "cartos" were also homemade from tea bags and aquarium "blue foam" filter material. You think you got it bad now with today's factory-built cartomizers?

Literally thousands if not millions of cartomizers are built by hand in China every year. Making such a high number of tiny electrical components by hand are bound to have defects and quality control issues. Some are just going to be subpar. They cost $2 to buy. The ones that work last 1 - 4 weeks. For those that complain about cartomizers being so expensive, remember that you used to pay up to $6 a day on cigarettes and didn't think a thing about it.

With clearomizers, the original ones were awful, they have made great strides in just a years time. It seems every month a new twist or innovation is introduced, promising better juice delivery and vaping performance. If you study Innokin's new iClear30S, they look like a hybrid between a clearomizer head and a cartomizer.

There is no perfect juice delivery attachment yet. What everyone does who is relatively successful, they find a system that works best for them, and learn to either modify it to their liking, or learn to use it to their advantage. For myself, its been cartotanks. I attempted to learn how and why they work. What can go astray, what is the fix. Understanding how a carto is designed, how punched cartos wick juice from the tank, what draw technique works best, what tools or tips make setting up at tank easier, how to troubleshoot, so on and so forth. Once you understand the physics involved, you learn to work within the system.

 

[EL Pistoffo]

When doing dry draws to help prime the carto, should you continue to do them till no more bubbles come from the carto holes? I don't because I'd assume that would result in a flooded carto. Could an airflow that is too free or unrestricted cause a lack of pull or suction of juice from the tank? I've done primer draws occasionally and notice bubbles coming out of the wicking holes. On my first successful day I didn't do any and had no problems.

Since I threw on a new carto yesterday but have been using it very sparingly, mainly using my PT 2 mini. Kinda paranoid now, only a couple of cartos left. I'm going to have to order some replacement carto's but Ikenvape is out of mine so I'll need some other brand in the meantime. Smok maybe?