First Vape Mail: Vamo threading questions.

[PDXBLK]

Hi new ECF friends.
This is my first post, but I though I should start by asking for some clarification. I got my first vape mail today, two packages containing the following:

-Four juices from Mt. Baker Vapor (which I'm going to let steep for a few days.)

-A fasttech kit containing: 1 nitecore intellicharger i2, 2 panasonic 18650 batteries, and a Stainless Steel Vamo v3. (SKU: 1395801)
-A supposedly dual coil catomizer tank (SKU: 1317401)
-A 5ml three-head Vivi Nova (SKU: 1333301)

Now, to back up for a moment, I began vaping three weeks with a 2yr-old hand-me-down kit from VaporTokers.com, original atomizer and cartridges and all. For reference, this is the kit, and VT customer support told me the two batteries (small and large) are 510 internally threaded, with exterior eGo threading, 3.7 volts, and 700 & 1000 MAh respectively. I was also give some very old juice.

Now, here's were I get confused. I bust open my goodies and find that, though I was under the impression everything on the table was 510 threaded, the cartomizer tank and original VT atomizers won't screw onto the vamo. The vivi will screw on, but it has some sort of spring-loaded bottom connector, so it sits crooked unless I screw it in VERY carefully.
The connector on the vivi therefore should be too big to fit on the VT batteries, but nevertheless it does, along with the original atomizers (of course) and also the fasttech cartomizer tank.

So here are the questions I'm left with:
1. Is the vamo v3 not internally 510 threaded, or are the VT eGo batteries not actually 510?

2. Should I be worried about the connection the Vivi is making to the vamo? (for reference, i have the 1.8 ohm head on, and vamo reads it as 1.9)

3. As all of the reviews on fasttech say the included cartmizer is garbage, should I not waste the juice, chuck it and buy a new one, or should i give it a go? If I should chuck it, which cartomizers should I buy that will both fit the vamo and the diameter of the tank?

Thanks a ton to anyone who can lend their two cents to this newbie!

 

[PDXBLK]

Update:
Now that I've got charged batteries in the Vamo and have been able to use it for awhile with the vivi nova attached, I've found the I get great vapor production, but very little flavor at all.

 

[Susiejo]

I don't have a vamo but I read somewhere on ecf that someone said that their 510's fit better when they used an ego to 510 adapter. The vamo does have 510 threading but she said it just seemed to sit better with the adapter than without.
As for not much flavor, what kind of juice are you using? A higher pg will give more flavor than a higher vg. I use higher vg so I usually get 2 extra flavor shots in most of my MBV juices.

 

[PDXBLK]

Thanks, Susiejo. I may have to look into that adapter.
As for my juice, it's 100% VG, Weirdly, I get more flavor out of it when I take the Vivi off the Vamo and put it on the eGo!

 

[DaxFX]

Go to vamo sub forum, they are lots of thread about that


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[The Ocelot]

Hi

While many people like Vivi Novas, but just as many don't and feel they have a muted taste. Be careful with the Vamo threads, they are often fragile and can be damaged if devices are screwed on too tightly. As DaxFX suggested, you should check out the Vamo sub-forum.

 

[PDXBLK]

Gracias DaxFX, and thank you Ocelot. I'll continue scouring the vamo forum for answers!

 

[Kellycat]

I'm running a Vamo V2 with a Vivi Mini tank and have no issues with threading, but I seem to remember someone saying the V3 changed something about the connector, no idea if that's accurate or not, might be worth researching the differences between the two models. Also don't think my Mini has a spring-loaded center pin, so that could be a difference rendering what I just said totally inaccurate..just my two cents either way.

 

[PDXBLK]

Thanks Kelly. The spring-loaded pin thing is weird. So far I haven't seen anyone referencing it in the discussions about the VN, but admittedly I haven't really been looking in that direction too hard. I've been concentrating my research into the vamo end of things.
I can't figure out why there is a noticeable flavor difference between the vamo and the eGo, when I know I can set the vamo to produce exactly the same voltage.

 

[The Ocelot]

Thanks Kelly. The spring-loaded pin thing is weird. So far I haven't seen anyone referencing it in the discussions about the VN, but admittedly I haven't really been looking in that direction too hard. I've been concentrating my research into the vamo end of things.
I can't figure out why there is a noticeable flavor difference between the vamo and the eGo, when I know I can set the vamo to produce exactly the same voltage.

You can't really set the exact voltage on a eGo, it's more like a range. My mods all hit slightly differently. I have a new bottom feeder I'm trying to figure out, so I have been rotating the same carto and atty between 4 different devices (2 variable and 2 that are both supposedly 3.7v). Each is a little bit different and I've managed to make myself nic sick comparing them. Water. Water. Water. Water.

 

[PDXBLK]

I've managed to make myself nic sick comparing them. Water. Water. Water. Water.

Oh god, ain't that the truth. I've made myself ill tonight between switching back and forth AND trying to taste test the new juices I just received.
And thank you for the heads up about the eGos. I was under the impression they were 3.7v +/- 0.1v, and so I've been playing around with that range on the vamo, trying to replicate the experience, and I haven't gotten it quite right yet.

 

[The Ocelot]

Oh god, ain't that the truth. I've made myself ill tonight between switching back and forth AND trying to taste test the new juices I just received.
And thank you for the heads up about the eGos. I was under the impression they were 3.7v +/- 0.1v, and so I've been playing around with that range on the vamo, trying to replicate the experience, and I haven't gotten it quite right yet.

If it's a Joyetech eGo, they fire at ≈3.3v. The generic ones are usually ≈3.7v, but without a voltage meter you won't know exactly. With a Vamo you can set it low, like 6w and dial up until it tastes good. Personally, I'm not a Vivi Nova fan. I find the taste too weak.

 

[PDXBLK]

And then you walk away from the computer to make coffee and the answer suddenly seems transparent...

Let's say you just got a new vivi nova in the mail and you want to test it out, but you've never had one before, so you decide to put some of the juice you like least, like an almost flavorless tobacco juice in it, wetting the wicks and puffing on it until you're satisfied that it works.
THEN, lets say you syringe out all the tobacco e-juice and replace it with a slightly stronger flavored coffee e-juice, but you don't wash the wicks off. Would that result in the vape continuing to retain the original (musky but otherwise non-existent) flavor?

 

[Vault]

I`ve just tested 3 different Ego batteries.
650/900/1100mah all from Fastech, all brand new and fully charged.
They are the basic model with as Fastech says "the blue light indicator" which means they are non-variable,have the 5 clicks on and off button but no low battery indicator. The most basic ego model.

All come out at 4.2v when the button is pushed.

This is as I suspected, they are basic Li-po batteries and when fully charged will read 4.2v much the same as any "3.7v" Li-po such as my 18650`s for my Vamo`s.
They will slowly discharge with use until they reach 3.3v and then the "blue light indicator" (for that read the button) will flash a couple of times and it will switch off, time to re-charge.

So in regard to the OP, setting your Vamo at 3.7v won`t replicate the vape on your ego (IF it is the same type as described!) but setting the Vamo to 4.2v just might

 

[PDXBLK]

Vault,
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll give 4.2v a shot!

 

[The Ocelot]

I`ve just tested 3 different Ego batteries.
650/900/1100mah all from Fastech, all brand new and fully charged.
They are the basic model with as Fastech says "the blue light indicator" which means they are non-variable,have the 5 clicks on and off button but no low battery indicator. The most basic ego model.

All come out at 4.2v when the button is pushed.

This is as I suspected, they are basic Li-po batteries and when fully charged will read 4.2v much the same as any "3.7v" Li-po such as my 18650`s for my Vamo`s.
They will slowly discharge with use until they reach 3.3v and then the "blue light indicator" (for that read the button) will flash a couple of times and it will switch off, time to re-charge.

So in regard to the OP, setting your Vamo at 3.7v won`t replicate the vape on your ego (IF it is the same type as described!) but setting the Vamo to 4.2v just might

ohm, ohm on the range...

 

[Vault]

Or...... now you know the voltage and if you know the resistance of your delivery device (atomiser) you can use Ohms law to work out the wattage and set the Vamo to that

♫ where the deer and the antelope play ♫

 

[The Ocelot]

And then you walk away from the computer to make coffee and the answer suddenly seems transparent...

Let's say you just got a new vivi nova in the mail and you want to test it out, but you've never had one before, so you decide to put some of the juice you like least, like an almost flavorless tobacco juice in it, wetting the wicks and puffing on it until you're satisfied that it works.
THEN, lets say you syringe out all the tobacco e-juice and replace it with a slightly stronger flavored coffee e-juice, but you don't wash the wicks off. Would that result in the vape continuing to retain the original (musky but otherwise non-existent) flavor?

Wonky things happen with juice sometimes. Flavors you imagine are stronger than other flavors aren't, or some you can taste more than others. Your tastes buds can go through some radical changes at first..and later on too, for no discernible reason. Flavors can also interact with each other. I was dripping a fairly mild flavor, then switched to unflavored for a couple of hours. I then dripped some Koolada, which isn't really a flavor and the first flavor came back. Welcome to vaping.

 

[PDXBLK]

Ugh. things that did not fix the problem:
1. switching the vivi head to a new, completely unused head (2.4ohm) and readjusting to an appropriate wattage (6-8w).

Things I accomplished in doing the above:
1. experiencing the taste of "smoky shoestring."
2. putting the earlier head out of commission until tomorrow by rinsing it.

Woo!

 

[Glen Snyder]

I've got a V3 from FT, no issues here with the 510 threads. If you're not getting enough flavor, try an Evod at about 7.5 watts on the Vamo