Flavour Issue!

[Occultation]

Hi guys, whenever I come across a problem with my e-cig (or if i'm just curious to know more about e-cigs) I google the problem and google always shows this forum, which is where I usually find the best answers!

I've come across a problem and found similar issues with answers, but i'm not sure if those answers apply to my issue.

I recently found a really really nice flavour (tutti frutti if you're interested) from my local ecig shop, it's that nice i'm on my third 10ml bottle since about a week a go. I have however noticed that it tastes nothing like the first bottle. I read that it could be "vapours tongue" but I have no taste issue with anything else! What could it be?!

Also, why am I using up the bottles so fast? It usually takes me about 2 weeks to smoke a single 10ml bottle.

Thanks in advance!

 

[rutjunky]

I would like to hear more on this too. As I've found the Carmel apple from my e cig shop taste different from bottle to bottle sometimes.

 

[TaylorPlayer]

Some juices just vape faster than others I have found. As for the difference in taste, it could be that the store is not that accurate in mixing the PG/VG and flavor ratios.

 

[hammer71]

Could be gummed up coils as well. Try a new one and see if that clears it up.

 

[Vermonster13]

Older bottles can taste different than newer bottles(some liquids need to age and seep a bit to be good). What you drink or eat can effect perceived flavor. The volts you vape at(most every juice has a sweet spot) can change the taste. Vape tongue getting to used to a flavor can make you lose the subtleties also. I usually vape a few complimenting flavors over the course of a day and throw one very different one in to keep things awake.

 

[Occultation]

I'm pretty sure they get their liquids from a wholesale, they sit there on the shelf next to the box ahaa. I use CE4 Clearomizers, I changed it earlier today and I can taste the flavour a little bit more... not by much though.

I also find that my "fruit" flavour... which tastes nothing like fruit, but minty wheat (which is actually rather nice) pumps out more smoke,

 

[TrickL]

I'm having a similar issue with my RY4. Not sure if it is just blander because I've been on the same bottle for a week. But as I've only used this one flavor, I may need to change it up.


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[Completely Average]

10ml lasts you two weeks?

WOW!!! That's got to be a forum record for the least amount of vaping done.

Most of us go through 3ml or more a DAY.

 

[Occultation]

I exaggerated a bit aha. But 30ml in a week isn't usually normal for me.

 

[patkin]

A few things: You replace your taste buds every 10 days but not all the receptors at once: ie: sweet, tart, salty, etc. And that is the reason you have to keep varying which ones you use daily... don't overwork any one set of them. For instance, if youre vaping a citrus taste, make sure you alternate with a sweet taste... like vape pineapple and alternate with pecan roll. Let one set of buds rest while you work out the other. Nothing, but nothing, is going to work your buds like vaping does. You never ate every all day long and gum looses its taste... closes you might have come is drinking pop or coffee all day but that will affect your taste too you just may never have noticed it much. And, to work right to begin with, those buds need to stay hydrated... don't let them get parched or they'll walk off the job. What you're experiencing is called "vaper's tongue" and its extremely common. It will pass just get another juice to vape periodically with your ADV gum one but make sure its not in the same family. Oh, and there is one more phenomena that happens with many vapers. Some loose the ability to taste whatever juice they vaped constantly at the start... for me its watermelon... or they develop a strong dislike of whatever they loved in the beginning.

 

[BigCatDaddy]

A few things: You replace your taste buds every 10 days but not all the receptors at once: ie: sweet, tart, salty, etc. And that is the reason you have to keep varying which ones you use daily... don't overwork any one set of them. For instance, if youre vaping a citrus taste, make sure you alternate with a sweet taste... like vape pineapple and alternate with pecan roll. Let one set of buds rest while you work out the other. Nothing, but nothing, is going to work your buds like vaping does. You never ate every all day long and gum looses its taste... closes you might have come is drinking pop or coffee all day but that will affect your taste too you just may never have noticed it much. And, to work right to begin with, those buds need to stay hydrated... don't let them get parched or they'll walk off the job. What you're experiencing is called "vaper's tongue" and its extremely common. It will pass just get another juice to vape periodically with your ADV gum one but make sure its not in the same family. Oh, and there is one more phenomena that happens with many vapers. Some loose the ability to taste whatever juice they vaped constantly at the start... for me its watermelon... or they develop a strong dislike of whatever they loved in the beginning.

I keep a tank with 100%vg@12mg nic to vape when things go south, flavorwise. No taste whatsoever, but a nice lung hit to keep the cravings at bay whilst the 'buds rest. And drink water, drink water, drink water....

 

[LowValueTarget]

I grabbed this post from the user Gigabites on the EC subreddit. It makes quite a bit of sense IMO.

Your tongue tastes 5 things: sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and umami. That's it. Your tongue DOES NOT taste pizza, strawberries, cola, whatever. This is the job of your olfactory sensors at the top of your nasal passage. Chemical signatures combined with sense memory makes you think strawberry, for example, when you smell something similar but not strawberry. You are actively recalling a mental image of a strawberry when you smell these scents. You learned the association. That's why a real strawberry and that artificial strawberry gives you the same response even though the two really don't smell the same, but you still think "strawberry". In contrast, salt is salt and you don't have to recall salt to know salt.(it's actually a very specific chemical that your taste bud senses, sodium chloride).

Now, as for why you cease tasting your juice favors after a while, its called olfactory fatigue. When our olfactory senses get bombarded by a particular smell, it eventually gets ignored. An analogy would be the dairy farmer. If you ask one if they are bothered by the smell of cow manure, most will say they don't even notice it anymore, but if you or I were there, we would smell it immediately.

So, how do you solve this problem? Easy. There is a technique that chocolatiers, perfumers, tea buyers, spice merchants, anyone who professionally uses their sense of taste and smell (which essentially the same thing) have used for hundreds of years. They shock their olfactory sensors into "resetting". All you have to do is open a bag or can of freshly ground coffee and take several deep inhales. Be careful not to actually inhale any grounds. The unique molecular structure of the coffee odorants does this "resetting".

No amount of brushing your teeth, gargling, or any other anecdotal mouth oriented techniques work well or at all. It all comes down to simple high school chemistry and biology.

TL;DR: your tongue has nothing to do with it, it's your nose. Fix it by deeply smelling fresh coffee grounds. Don't inhale coffee grounds.

 

[Jeff Mayone]

That's great info patkin, thanks! I have found many flavors to change bottle to bottle. So many variables including equipment, exposure to o2, age and mixture inconsistencies at factory. I find the more popular companies are more consistent so it leads me to believe it is a general quality control issue.

 

[BimRidder]

I've noticed that my old bottles start tasting like moldy hay after a while. I would suggest perhaps looking for a juice company that has better quality control or visit a shop that moves more product.

 

[shynsly]

I am guessing that the vendor doesnt steep the liquid. Try putting the bottle in a dark place with the cap off for a day or two, and give it a good shake once or twice a day, and see if that makes a difference.

Tobacco flavors will need more steeping compared to fruit flavors.

Good Luck!!!

 

[itskohler]

Neat trick.

 

[Bolivar]

your tongue has nothing to do with it, it's your nose. Fix it by deeply smelling fresh coffee grounds. Don't inhale coffee grounds.

Well, I'll be.... that works !

 

[Occultation]

Thank you for your brilliant answers! This will not only help me, but others with similar issues!

I'm going to go and sniff some coffee and grab a pint of water.

 

[Buggainok]

Well, I'll be.... that works !

Gonna try it right now!