Flavours Non-Mainstream

[Kraqule]

Herbs: (Most of these herbs have been used by many cultures in a smokable or smudge form)
Oregano
Basil
Fennel
Cinnamon
Nutmeg
Cardomen
Nettle
Oregano
Sage

Woods: (Many woods have been burned for thousands of years so the risk with many would be associated as low.)
Cedar
Sandlewood (Will have to investigate known carcinogens. Great scent but not as familiar with)
Oak
Cherry
Hickory
Mesquite
Apple

Misc:

 

[Kraqule]

Well I think my first out of the box attempt will be what I will call

Southwest BBQ

Mesquite Wood Tincture
Hickory Wood Tincture
Apple
Honey

Never know till you try. Think I will keep my Tinctures soaking for 2-3 more days and see what I can come up with.

 

[Crunktanium]

What does me being an almost 40 year old man enjoying peach or strawberry candy type flavors have to do with kids?

Most adults actually like the same sweet treats that we enjoyed as kids. That has nothing to do with enticing kids to vape. I would not want to eat Sandalwood and I damn sure would not want to vape Nutmeg. If you want to vape your spice rack that's cool and all. But for example consuming to much nutmeg can get you high. I don't know what vaping it would do in high doses. But I sure wont ever be the one to find out. I also smoked sage in place of cigs at times when I lived in an area that was covered in it. It's a relaxing herb and Indians have used it for years. But many people try to get high from Sage which makes it another one to be cautious with. While you might think you are doing a great service someone might take what you do the wrong way and label you a drug dealer.

 

[Kraqule]

Tis your opinion. Trying to stay on track and get some ideas on some different blends of flavors.

 

[dannyv45]

As previously explained in my intro to the forums I am a relatively new to vaping. I was a little disturbed by the focus on candied flavours. Not that all are bad but it seems like allot of the effort is dedicated to developing flavours to entice kids. Now I do like know that is not true but appearances are a fickle thing.

It is therefore my goal to develop some personal blends based around a more sophisticated pallet.

I'm not quite sure what your getting at but if your intent is to set a good example for kids I don't think kids really care to vape spices and woods so your efforts will likely fall on deaf ears. If your a naturalist then more power to you. I don't think what you are trying to do has anything to do with a sophisticated pallet. I'm a 61 year old that enjoy some of the finest sophisticated restaurants in the NY/NJ area and I don't consider myself as having a sophisticated pallet. I Like tobacco vapes and also do enjoy nice sweet desert type vapes as well as fruit and candy type vapes and I don't see my vaping preferences enticing kids.

Thinking that personal preference in spices and woods would be a good fit for you is one thing. Trying to convince us that your doing this for the sake of the kids is a bit much to swallow. So maybe we should concentrate on your personal preferences and leave the politics out of the discussion.

There are many here that like the naturals and herbs that you speak of and I wish you the best of luck with your effort. Do some searching on the forum for natural and herb flavorings and you will find lots of info. Keep us posted on your progress.

 

[retrox]

Hoo boy. Not even sure where to begin here.

Fennel, cinnamon, and nutmeg vape well, but all become cloying quickly for me even when used as back notes. Oak works well in very small amounts with tobacco and coconut. The trick to making or enhancing flavors for vaping is in finding things that don't become overpowering/cloying after vaping it a few times. Most vapers, especially those fresh off cigarettes, must vape throughout the day; hence flavors that do not overly fatigue the palate work the best. Savory flavors are especially difficult to work with for just this reason. For instance, your Southwest BBQ sounds like something I would certainly vape. It also sounds like something I would vape perhaps only a half dozen times before I'd be reaching for the banana cream pie.

Not trying to take the wind out of your sails here, and I do wish you the best of luck with your endeavor.

 

[Kraqule]

Retrox that is goign to be the challenge ... How does one keep it refreshing yet savory. One thing will be for sure is that the flavor I think will have to be mild with maybe a stronger cinnamon ..

I have gone to making tamed down custards... next to no added sweeter and it is not bad for me but it is still is not my thing ...

I am a reforming smoker and my problem is the sugar smell / taste gets to me. At current I am doing a honey tobacco blend but without the honey the tobacco sux and with it I find myself disliking the sweet so off to find something that does work for me.

 

[dannyv45]

BBQ, Coconut, Apple, peach, ,mango, pumpkin with cinnamon or other fruit and even a whiskey or rum flavoring would all go very well together aged (Steeped) in an oak barrel. Maybe that's an avenue for you to explore. There was a nice thread on that process. Just do a search on "Oak Barrel". I was a taste tester on that project and it was very good and may be more in line with your pallet. This process works very well with tobacco recipes.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Try Zen Garden from FlavourArt.

 

[Exchaner]

I have vaped cardamon from FA and it tastes wonderful. You can make your own natural extract using alcohol or perhaps pg - a three day soak, not longer. Can do the same with coriander. There was a thread on the subject approx 7 months ago ....

 

[retrox]

One of my favorite local B&M recipes utilizes lemon grass and ginger to good effect, and it's not terribly sweet. I mainly use it as a palate cleanser, but I could see it being someone's ADV. Lavender is also a popular choice among vapeable florals.

 

[Kraqule]

One of my favorite local B&M recipes utilizes lemon grass and ginger to good effect, and it's not terribly sweet. I mainly use it as a palate cleanser, but I could see it being someone's ADV. Lavender is also a popular choice among vapeable florals.

That is hilarious. Just before I came down I was talking about lemon grass. I like my southwest BBQ idea but I think the key will be to keep it light as far as flavor goes. Almost like you are smelling the BBQ from 3 or 4 houses away.

The Lavender and the Cardamom, coriander also ran through my mind. Maybe some dill.

Today my hickory, mesquite, apple, and cedar wood tinctures smell amazing.

Ok Opinion Time

With Green herbs like Dill, fresh fennel, and so forth to keep the chlorophyll out I read to soak it in high proof alcohol in a freezer for a day or two then to cook off the alcohol at a low temp and finally strain the remaining. Does that sound like the best process to keep the harmful elements out of my flavors?

 

[Muero]

Going to go ahead and chime in. It's probably not a wise idea to make your own extracts.. It's one thing to vape aromatic molecules, it's another thing to dissolve plant matter into pg or vg. We can make an educated guess on the effects of vaping manufactured aromatic molecules as they have been run through gas spectromotry (sp?), but when you diy flavor concentrates you're most likely other organic molecules that could possibly be quite harmful. Of course lacking the equipment to monitor that...but if it floats your boat go for it.