Free sample of the only soft pack and king size e cigs

[spacekitty]

1% is 12mg
2% is 18mg
4% is 24mg

approx

I don't know where you got your information, but 12mg is 1.2%, 18mg = 1.8% and 24mg would be 2.4%... your math just isn't right!!!


There is even a thread here on the ECF that supports what I am saying:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/261114-tobacco-cigarette-vs-e-cigarette-nicotine-equivalency.html

Other factors
In the end, only the individual can decide on an equivalence. Partly this is due to the fact that the e-cigarette is an extremely flexible clean nicotine delivery system, where any of multiple variations will affect the outcome; and partly because there is a wide variation in the individual tolerance to nicotine. The end result will be different for each individual.

We have seen a factor-10 variation in nicotine tolerance between individuals reporting the effects of nicotine, here on ECF. For example, some users report symptoms of nicotine OD with use of 12mg (1.2%) strength liquid and must use the lowest strength available, 6mg (0.6%), whereas some report no signs of nicotine OD whatsoever with unrestricted use of 36mg liquid (3.6%), with some reports of users employing 48mg (4.8%) and even 60mg (6%) ad lib. Therefore, any equivalency is moot, since users are so different (with, therefore, a demonstrated difference in tolerance of a factor of 10), and the user varies the result to suit their own preference - as with all consumer products, of course. You drink enough coffee to suit your requirements, and no more.

 

[DanFromRioRancho]

SpaceKitty,

I love what you're trying to accomplish, but you're beating a dead horse -- some people (and vendors) just never learn. Just let it go and allow a bit of ecig Darwinism take care of rawdanny, his 2000 stores, and his "free" samples.

 

[cherrycakes]

Pack of 12 only $84.99

where do I sign up >.>

 

[spacekitty]

SpaceKitty,

I love what you're trying to accomplish, but you're beating a dead horse -- some people (and vendors) just never learn. Just let it go and allow a bit of ecig Darwinism take care of rawdanny, his 2000 stores, and his "free" samples.

Yes, you're right... I guess I should know better than to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person!!

 

[DanFromRioRancho]

Yes, you're right... I guess I should know better than to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person!!

 

[rawdanny]

lol you just said 10% 20% and 40%

which is wrong, thanks tho.. please do not talk about our site , if you do not know the facts about the products thank you

I noticed that you sell juice, but noting to use it with... and I was horrified at the way you list the strengths... which to a new user could be very misleading and even harmful!!

Listed as 1%, 2% and 4%... most people would think that it is a small amount, when the truth of the matter is that they translate to 10mg, 20mg and 40mg!!!


It is not even recommended to vape anything stronger than 36mg, and there are very few vendors that sell premixed juice at that strength. Even the ECF has a Policy about not advertising anything above 36mg... plus, most of the higher strengths are used in DIY and cut down for mixing purposes.

I think you should be more responsible in explaining things on your site!!!

 

[spacekitty]

lol you just said 10% 20% and 40%

which is wrong, thanks tho.. please do not talk about our site , if you do not know the facts about the products thank you

Please show me where I said that... because I don't see it in any of my posts. not even the one you quoted!!

I might not know about your products, but I know that your calculations of the amount of nicotine is them is wrong!!! Did you even bother to read the thread that I posted?? And that is from one of the Administrators here... so I guess that means you are saying that they are wrong, too??!!

Maybe we should just let them settle it???

 

[spacekitty]

I noticed that you added the mg to the menu now, but it doesn't make the % right...

And .05oz does NOT equal 15ml, either... LMAO!!!

0.05us fl oz = 1.4787mL

 

[DanFromRioRancho]

Hey, Spacekitty........they're selling a disposable that's advertised as having (up to) 800 puffs!

"up to"?

 

[spacekitty]

Hey, Spacekitty........they're selling a disposable that's advertised as having (up to) 800 puffs!

"up to"?

I wonder if they have ever done a "puff count"?? LOL!!

I was a beta tester for a high-end ecig co. once and we had to count everything...
We were testing a new batt, but I don't think any of their cartos even came out over 200!!

 

[DanFromRioRancho]

Danny, Danny, Danny.......I'm starting to feel a little bit sorry for you.

Not too much, but a little bit, so here are the real facts of life:

* Only a small percentage of ECF members use cig-a-likes. Those that do, use high-end products.
* ECF members would pretty much rather do without before buying a disposable from a 7-11 out of the display box next to the Grape and Watermelon flavored Cigarillos.
* ECF members recognize, however, that a lot of people get their start in vaping through those disposables and are willing to consider supporting a new company that appears to be reputable and appears to have a good product.
* As part of that support they are willing to write a review, if asked, when they receive free samples. Paying for S&H is not considered free.
* So far, you've had a tad over 550 views of this thread, and only 5 people have bothered to respond -- and mostly with criticism.
* Anyone else that comes here will read the thread and pick up very quickly on the way you comport yourself, and the way you portray your products on your website.

Just a little food for thought......

 

[cherrycakes]

I think someone should get one of these and test the nic level

 

[spacekitty]

I think someone should get one of these and test the nic level

That sounds like a great idea!! And while they're at it, they can do a "puff count", too...

But I suspect it's just a case of the vendor having skipped school the day they were learning fractions and decimals... LOL!!

 

[DanFromRioRancho]

I think someone should get one of these and test the nic level

You volunteering? Don't know where they've been made, don't know what's in them, not sure that the vendor knows......

 

[DanFromRioRancho]

That sounds like a great idea!! And while they're at it, they can do a "puff count", too...

Ahem....please see above.

 

[cherrycakes]

Yea I don't wanna die

 

[jjcordone]

Ouch. Why so tough on this guy?
I do like the NJOY Kings when I travel, nice to have something for the hotel rooms that I can just toss and not worry about charging or losing somewhere. These look to be the same type of thing. $5 for three is a good deal, if they are as good as the NJOY Kings are.
The NJOY Kings are so darn expensive.

 

[DanFromRioRancho]

Ouch. Why so tough on this guy?....$5 for three is a good deal

Can't speak for others, but for me it's just a bit of eCig Darwinism:
* Doesn't matter if it's a good deal or not, it's not free as advertised. Instead of ceding the point when called on it, the vendor chose to weasel.
* The original website had bad information. The website was eventually changed, but the vendor chose to push back against those that pointed out the issue.
* The nic content values are either not understood by the vendor, or the vendor is choosing to not correct errors. Instead of doing additional homework and making corrections, the vendor shows attitude.
* The "up to 800 puff" performance claim for a disposable is "questionable".

These elements make me feel uncomfortable with the vendor, uncomfortable with the product, and uncomfortable with his attitude.

 

[spacekitty]

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[puckhead]

* Doesn't matter if it's a good deal or not, it's not free as advertised. Instead of ceding the point when called on it, the vendor chose to weasel.

There are plenty of vendors that offer free stuff but require the customer to pay shipping. Both Vermillion River and Nashville Vapor offer a free bottle of liquid but you have to pay shipping. It's really not that uncommon.