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[decaptain]

honestly, everyone is going to tell you to go with the istick 30 or 50, but i wouldnt. they can randomly have 510 connection issues or loose firing buttons. there are still issues popping up everywhere with them. they are top notch when they work well. if you are just getting into vaping, i'd recommend the mvp20watt or the mvp 3.0. The mvp line is pretty much the most reliable and long lasting hardware you can get your hands on. These things are built like a tank, and they have helped a ton of people get off the cigs. great hardware, very reliable, no growing pains like the istick.

 

[Puff2K]

I have the istick 30w and the MVP 20 w and there are pluses to each. The mvp is solid but the settings are more fiddly than the istick. The istick is smaller and more portable but it doesn't feel as rock solid as the MVP 20, but the settings are easier. Both of them last me almost a full day of use chain vaping (with protanks, at about 8 to 10 watts).

I'd be more worried about dropping the istick on concrete than the MVP. I think the MVP would survive a fall but the istick might not. There are sleeves you can buy for both.

Oh, forgot - the istick has stainless steel 510 port, but I don't know if the MVP does. Stainless steel means the threads won't strip.

 

[DonViper]

Since you're new to all of this and everyone else seems to have the istick issue covered, I'll just give my opinion about the tank.

Being a new user with virtually no experience I would highly recommend staying away from any rebuildable tank that doesn't have the option of buying premade coils. This would include the Lemo and Delta II. They come with a lot of time and hassle spent cleaning, rebuilding, and rewicking. They also require kanthal wire and wicking materials as well as a set of tools (wire cutters, small screwdriver, ohm meter, sharp scissors, and something to wrap your coils around as a minimum. Small butane torch is also helpful)

I also wouldn't suggest a subohm tank for your first tank either. I know they're all the rage right now, but they come with a few downsides that rarely get talked about to new users, not least of which is that their coils are relatively expensive and don't last very long. They also go through a LOT of liquid and that combined with the expensive coils that don't last very long increases your cost to use them. Also they require straight lung hits to work right and not everyone wants that when they first start out. And the clouds can attract unwanted attention and comments at places work or school.

What I would suggest is a full sized Aspire Nautilus. NOT the mini. It works just like the mini but holds twice as much liquid so you can go twice as long between refills, usually a full day or more between refills. It has really great flavor for a tank that uses retail coils, has very good vapor production, and the coils aren't very expensive and last a long time. For many people it's all they'll ever need.


I've got a wide variety of both retail and rebuildable tanks. For someone new to vaping the Nautilus would be the easiest and most satisfying option. If, after you get more comfortable and decide you want to expand into rebuildables or subohming then by all means make the plunge, but I wouldn't recommend that as a first step. Get used to vaping, spend some time around here learning about the options and the downsides to them, and then make your decision based on what you feel you want to change about your own use, not what other people want.

Hey man!I really appreciate your reply.What battery you recommend for Aspire Nautilus?

 

[StrwBerryBlond]

Just today I did the 30 vs 50 debate myself. I went with the 50 but I think I'd still like a 30 simply for its compact size. Ultimately the cost and battery life drove my decision. Everywhere I looked (locally and online) the 50 was typically about $10 more than than the 30, but it's literally double the battery. From the standpoint of getting the best deal I had to take the 50. Also I've searched high and low for a black one and while they seem to be sold out everywhere I found a store that had one left. Again, the deal. However, the 50 is kind of heavy. The 30 is slim and compact and lightweight. I may still try to find a good deal online for a 30.

As for tanks I've only ever used Kanger products because thats what my local store pushes. I can only share my experience of a Mini Protank 2 and 3, Aerotank, Subtank Nano, and a Subtank Mini. I love my Subtank Mini.

 

[jseah]

I have both the 30 and the 50. While the smaller size of the 30 is nice, I love the feel of the 50 in my hand. It just feels better. My 30 doesn't have the loose rattle in the fire button that has been mentioned in reviews of early models, but the fire button is much more flush than compared to the one on the 50, so it is a bit more difficult to press.

 

[Jake Guss]

 

[Southpaw22]

Hey Don,

I thought I'd add my 2 cents...I have the Istick 20W and 50W. I'd recommend the 50W if for no other reason than it's a great value. You'll pay almost twice as much for almost any other 50w. Plus, you'll have something you can "grow into" if/when you decide to upgrade tanks. I haven't used the 30W, but I'm guessing its good too.

Speaking of tanks, I'd start with either a Nautilus Mini or regular Nautilus. I think the Nautilus Minis hit a little better, but obviously you'll be refilling it more often than the regular.

Before you decide to upgrade to a sub ohm tank, you'll want to figure out what you like out of vaping. Do you like hot or cool vape? Are you a cloud chaser (trying to get as big of a cloud as possible)? Are you looking for the tank that delivers the best flavor? Each tank is different. This might also be another consideration as to what Istick you're going to get. I like a cool vape and have found my sweet spot for the Subtank mini is right around 20W. I usually bump it up to over 30W when I'm using my Delta II. I'm guessing this is pretty low for most people, but it works for me.

In my opinion, the Subtank Mini is a great sub ohm tank. The Delta II is pretty good, but it can be a bit of a pain to refill. Plus, with the Subtank Mini, you get a rebuildable deck as well so if you decide to start rebuilding you don't have to buy anything else. There is a rebuildable deck for the Delta II as well, but you have to buy that separately.

One more thing...You'll probably want a lower nic level when using sub ohm tanks. If you start with a Nautilus and then upgrade to a sub ohm, its something to keep in mind.