#FUNDtheSUIT to Fight the FDA Deeming Regulations from VapeNews/GrimmGreen

[tara81]

Vape companies should be funding this suit. If you buy ejuice and vape gear from these companies, you already funded it imo. These huge vape companies spend 30,000 for a booth at vape conventions, and make lots of money from us. Rip trippers donated 300,000 for the first suit and hes just a youtuber. vaping needs less greedy companies and more lobbyists paid by these companies or vaping will have to be underground in the future.

 

[tara81]

Like it says on that site
On May 22nd, a fundraising page was launched by the plaintiffs, in coordination with a vaping media site, to help fund the appeal. After a request from CASAA, the fundraiser organizers made changes to the campaign to make it clear that while any donations are appreciated, this should be an industry-funded effort. At the end of the day, this is an industry-led lawsuit, and we believe industry is where the funding should come from. There are many large vapor product companies that have contributed little, if anything, to advocacy efforts, and it’s time for them to stop getting a free ride.

CASAA supports the lawsuit, and our only concern, which has been largely addressed by the organizers, is that consumers shouldn’t feel pressured to donate money to the fundraiser. Consumers are not a party to the lawsuit, and we have no input into legal strategies, nor are we privy to the kind of information that clients would ordinarily receive. And in a very real sense, consumers have been supporting this lawsuit since the beginning. CASAA, as an advocate for consumers, has provided support for the lawsuit, both at the district level and at the appellate level. Specifically, we’ve spent a considerable amount in legal fees not only for CASAA’s amicus brief, but also to assist other groups to file their own amicus briefs.

 

[DeloresRose]

I agree that consumers shouldn’t feel pressured to donate, and that large vape businesses should participate. But for every large business, there are 100 little Mom and pop shops doing their best to keep the doors open while competing with online shops.

And, I see a large chunk of the donated money IS from shops.

And, it’s my money. I’ll donate when and to whom I please. Because as a consumer, I should not feel pressured NOT to donate.

I mean, our tax dollars already pay for our military. We already contribute, with the idea being, the government is going to take care of our vets. Does that mean I shouldn’t donate to those causes?

Anyone who doesn’t feel the desire, or have the means, should not feel pressured to give. Fine. Then don’t. And drop it.

 

[oplholik]

Just a tad over half way now.

 

[Mowgli]

@Oliver could we have a list of ECF Forum Suppliers that donated & how much?
Maybe consumers would like to support suppliers that support the industry.
Thanks

 

[classwife]

@Oliver could we have a list of ECF Forum Suppliers that donated & how much?
Maybe consumers would like to support suppliers that support the industry.
Thanks

Now how would he have a way of knowing that ?

 

[stols001]

Probably we could ASK our suppliers, in their areas, if they are going to donate, and if they do, well, we could state that we would support them, and etc. Or, make a memorial purchase (although many of them are probably off having their weekends) but yeah, we can ask ourselves, right?

Dibs on Vapesourcing. I kid. But yes, we could ask them to. Etc.

Anna

 

[Mowgli]

Check the Gofundme page and Google names of contributors.
Here are the top 5 contributors so far:

Naked 100 - $50K
Vapetasia - $5K
Ray Yang (BLVK Unicorn e-liquid) - $5K
Kevin Lacey (Pinnacle CBD) - $3K
Keith Hadley (Juice Box vape shop Louisville KY) - $2.5K

 

[Mowgli]

Sean Hanson (Lightning Vapes) - $2K
Marco Altamore (marcosvapor.com) - $2K
Brian Herb (The vApe Team) - $1545 ($45 raised from sharing)
James Beutler (Vapergate vape shop in CO) - $1500
Troy LeBlanc (Derb E cigs & KFSA) - $1K

 

[ScottP]

The sad thing is online retailers are missing a golden opportunity here. If I owned one, I would have a promotion where a set % of all sales went directly to this campaign. This would not only help the cause but would generate a ton of word of mouth advertising for them. IMHO they are ALL missing the boat on this one.

 

[Mowgli]

 

[classwife]

The sad thing is online retailers are missing a golden opportunity here. If I owned one, I would have a promotion where a set % of all sales went directly to this campaign. This would not only help the cause but would generate a ton of word of mouth advertising for them. IMHO they are ALL missing the boat on this one.

I would guess most don't have a clue.
Not everyone does the online community things to hear about happenings.

 

[leftyandsparky]

$135,716

 

[WorksForMe]

$141,476

I would guess most don't have a clue.
Not everyone does the online community things to hear about happenings.

This is why we need to educate them. Most vape consumers like us can't afford to make the large donations that businesses can, so it's our job to get the word out. We can email online vendors
and take flyers to vape shops.

www.gofundme.com/fundthesuit

 

[WorksForMe]

Update 1
4 hours ago
Posted by Corey Noles

Woa---oah, We're Halfway There!

Now officially one week into the #FUNDtheSUIT campaign, a total of 63 percent of the goal has been raised — $156,311 of the $250,000 goal.

Thanks to the outstanding generosity of the industry, it’s businesses, and even its consumers, we expect to hit the goal.

The sole purpose of #FUNDtheSUIT is to ensure that the pending lawsuit in defense of vapor products (Nicopure and Right to be Smoke Free vs FDA) will be able to continue through.

For more information on the lawsuit and it’s current status, click here.

Below, I would like to acknowledge many of those who have made substantial donations to #FUNDtheSUIT. Donations come in all sizes (900 of them so far), and every single dollar is appreciated. Whether you donate $50,000 or $5, this suit is not possible with YOU.

Let’s stay positive, push forward and hit this goal. That way we can get back to why we’re really here...to save lives.

Eds. Note: This list will be updated throughout the day.

$50,000 Naked 100 (Huy Nguyen)

$5,250 Demand Vape

$5,000 Vapetasia (Manny & Chris)

$5,000 Ray Yang

$3,000 Kevin Lacey (Pinnacle)

$3,000 John Nathan (80V, Cassadaga, Beantown Vapor)

$3,000 Shijin Vapor

$2,500 Mountain Oak Vapors (Steve Nair)

$2,500 Kentucky Smoke Free (Keith Hadley)

$2,000 Sean Hanson

$2,000 Marco Altamore

$1,545 The vApe Team

$1,500 Vapergate (Yosh & James)

$1,500 Smax E-Liquid

$1,500 Jeremy Dollar

$1,000 Derb E Cigs (Troy Leblanc)

$1,000 Tennessee Smoke Free Association (Nicole Crumley)

$1,000 Mr. Salt-E

$1,000 Georgia Smoke Free Association

$1,000 Jeremy Petrocelli

$1,000 Gayle Kraft

$1,000 FL8VORS Family

$1,000 Vape Militia Cypress

$1,000 Vape Militia Katy

$1,000 Kilo E-Liquid

$1,000 Desert Vapors

$1,000 Nakomah Hanson

$1,000 Fig Ramsey

$1,000 Broadside Mods

$1,000 Shaune Walter

$1,000 Andy Dossani

$1,000 Cyclops Vapor

$1,000 DMO Vapes

$1,000 William Amato

$1,000 Prohibition Juice Co.

$1,000 Todd Wages

$1,000 Rocky Top Vapor

$1,000 Tailored Vapors (Patrick & Michael)

$800 Mike Vapes (HitThatJuice.com)

$500 Michael Bracken

$500 Christopher Kennedy

$500 Justin Kicklighter

$500 Nick “Grimm” Green

$500 Robert South

$500 BouncingBetty.com

$500 Ohio Vapor Trade Association (Eric)

$500 Budget Vapors

$500 Duneland Eliquid LLC

$500 Nikole Maloy

$500 Kingdom Vapor Wholesale

$500 PJ Bros E-Liquid

$500 Monika Vondruska

$500 Timothy Stark

$500 James Slater

$500 Ultra Vapor Bar

$500 River City Vape Company

$500 William Dunn

$500 Amy Williams

$500 Erin McCullough

$500 Nerd E-Juice (Garrett Kilcrease)

$500 Michael Wittenberg

$500 Ritual Craft Vapor/Ritual Vapor Distribution

$500 Ryan Wagner

$500 Calhoun Vapor (New Orleans)

$500 Nice Guy Vapors

$500 Monica Vondruska

$500 Juiceguys Distribution

$500 Ian Devine

$500 Eric Van Riper (Vapor Image)

Help spread the word!

 

[WorksForMe]

$250,688


Candy King / Drip More donated $62,000
Innokin — SEVIA USA donated $20,000
plus several other large donations today

I don't know if this lawsuit can be won, but it's not going to disappear due to lack of money.

 

[oplholik]

Unbelievable, YAY!!!

 

[untar]

I don't know if this lawsuit can be won

Well... correct me if I'm wrong but the lawsuit was thrown out in the first instance and this now is an appeal.
There may be a very slight chance the appeals court will go on with the case but I think it's likely they'll just dismiss it (based on the reasons I saw the first court cited to dismiss the case).
The problem is there's a 2009 statute that gives the FDA power over tobacco products and the FDA has the authority (through that very law, the TCA) to classify ecigs as tobacco products. So unless there's anything done about that law the courts won't have much wiggle room at all, they interpret the law, they don't make it.

The FDA could treat ecigs less strictly if they wanted to but I doubt they can legally be compelled to do so.

That's how I see it atm, hope I'm wrong (and there's a good chance I am, only studied 1 semester of law and not even in the US, so definitely not an expert on those matters).

 

[WorksForMe]

$278,762

The fundraiser is closed.


May 31, 2018 Update

#FUNDtheSUIT : Fundraiser closing at $278k! But the fight goes on…

The speed with which the #FUNDtheSUIT campaign has surpassed its goal has simply astonished me.

I am so proud to see how many companies, stores, state associations and individuals came through to keep the lawsuit going.

With that said, since we have exceeded our $250,000 goal, it's time to call the GoFundMe portion to a close. There are sooo many people to thank for their hard work on this — my team here at VAPE News for all of their efforts, Fig Ramsey for more than I can put into words, Grimm Green, The Vaping Bogan, R2BSF, Huy Nguyen and Naked 100, Innokin, Drip More and so many others. I sincerely apologize if I've forgotten to list anyone.

I know many stores and companies are still running promotions for this, and there is still a place for your help. Moving forward, this fight continues. As we said in the beginning, the goal was a conservative estimate. In addition, there are other active cases as we speak. The more of these in which the industry can intervene the better.

For anyone who still wishes to contribute to the lawsuit effort, we at VAPE News ask that you visit the Right to be Smoke Free Coalition website and donate directly by clicking here.

Again, we want to thank everyone who gave — from the smallest donation to the largest, YOUR contribution counts and WILL make a difference.

Sincerely,

Corey Noles
Editor in Chief
VAPE News Magazine / VAPEnews.com

 

[chellie]

$278,762

The fundraiser is closed.


May 31, 2018 Update

#FUNDtheSUIT : Fundraiser closing at $278k! But the fight goes on…

The speed with which the #FUNDtheSUIT campaign has surpassed its goal has simply astonished me.

I am so proud to see how many companies, stores, state associations and individuals came through to keep the lawsuit going.

With that said, since we have exceeded our $250,000 goal, it's time to call the GoFundMe portion to a close. There are sooo many people to thank for their hard work on this — my team here at VAPE News for all of their efforts, Fig Ramsey for more than I can put into words, Grimm Green, The Vaping Bogan, R2BSF, Huy Nguyen and Naked 100, Innokin, Drip More and so many others. I sincerely apologize if I've forgotten to list anyone.

I know many stores and companies are still running promotions for this, and there is still a place for your help. Moving forward, this fight continues. As we said in the beginning, the goal was a conservative estimate. In addition, there are other active cases as we speak. The more of these in which the industry can intervene the better.

For anyone who still wishes to contribute to the lawsuit effort, we at VAPE News ask that you visit the Right to be Smoke Free Coalition website and donate directly by clicking here.

Again, we want to thank everyone who gave — from the smallest donation to the largest, YOUR contribution counts and WILL make a difference.

Sincerely,

Corey Noles
Editor in Chief
VAPE News Magazine / VAPEnews.com

Three donations: Candy King, Naked 100 and Innokin Technology — Sevia USA totaled a combined $132,000,, or 53% of the total needed. Nice!!