Geez!

[MSLS]

So today i started my DIY "clinical trials" again lol! Still getting a real harsh throat feeling from my mixes feels like its gonna give me a sore throat! cant figure it out, take a look....

1.67ml nic PG base (36mg/ml)

.63 PG
.2 ml water
2ml VG
.5ml Flavor

This is for a 5 ml mix and its all from RTS with lorann flavorings...whats goin on?

 

[canoeist]

I am new but will offer a suggestion. Mix a decent size batch of 50/50 pg/vg @ what mg level you want.
You can then try a small amount of your mix (like 20 drops) with 1 drop of flavor. If it still is harsh try adding more drops of the base mix. If it is still harsh, try the base mix with no flavoring to isolate the harshness.

Find and read the vinegar thread, the vinegar helps some type of flavors, lemon/lime/malic help other types.

I use a base when testing flavors, it helps save time & material and makes it easy to get close on flavor%.

 

[AzPlumber]

My first suggestion would be "give it some time". If after a couple of days it is still too harsh try making adjustments with flavor percentage and/or flavor enhancers.

I don't think this is the cause of the harshness but I would scrap the water unless you absolutely need it for wicking. A 60/40 ratio should wick fine in most equipment.

 

[MSLS]

im vaping like 10 minutes after i mix so could that be the issue maybe let it sit for 24 hours?

 

[AzPlumber]

Yeah it's possible some flavors need time to settle in. Using a little heat to help to process out can shorten that time, just put your bottle of fresh made juice in a bowl of hot tap water for 15 -20 minutes.

 

[pinellaspete]

Add 2 drops per 5ml of vinegar or lemon juice to your mix. I agree with AzPlumber about the water. Lose the water. Let the juice steep for at least a day maybe longer.

Good luck!

Pete

 

[panachronic]

Which LorAnn flavor are you using? Are you sure it isn't one of the oil based flavors?

 

[MSLS]

Its Lorann apple, and i kindof got it with the watermelon too..

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Not sure what you're experiencing, but all the above is great advice, give it a whirl

When I started DIYing I noticed a harshness that I actually enjoy, and would have to call it better TH

I have a theory that some of my vendor juices actually have less nic then they claim to have, and my own mixes are just what they claim to be (I hope ?)

No real evidence for this except 1) greater TH on my own batches 2) more buzz

 

[r77r7r]

It might be that he accidentally sent you a stronger mix of nic accidentally. Or the nic has some xtra additives. Do you have other nic to try?

I only ordered once from RTS, and it was stinky, which usually turns into a foul taste after awhile.

You can put a drop of vg and pg on your tongue to taste test, then add nic and vape- test separate from your other ingredients. Some of us vape unflavored everyday, so you can be assured that it's not bad tasting.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I only ordered once from RTS, and it was stinky, which usually turns into a foul taste after awhile

wow now I have two reasons not to order from them!

 

[r77r7r]

wow now I have two reasons not to order from them!

Well, you gotta watch tho, they supply nic to some of the juice sites. I found the most consistently good nic at ONESTOPDIYSHOP.One Stop DIY Shop

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I've heard. I've only used myfreedomsmokes and have zero complaints. Its almost entirely clear, tasteless and odorless. Excellent customer service and very patient with questions on the telephone as well.

 

[r77r7r]

I used to use them, great customer service, but 3rd order got the stinky nic. I believe I have bad luck with some of these companies- I know alot of people get good nic from places I don't. Maybe part of it is that I only vape unflavored and can tell right away because no flavors are covering it up.

 

[djbishybish]

I order from RTS and have had no problems. To each his own though.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I used to use them, great customer service, but 3rd order got the stinky nic. I believe I have bad luck with some of these companies- I know alot of people get good nic from places I don't. Maybe part of it is that I only vape unflavored and can tell right away because no flavors are covering it up.

I'm sure that's a part of it, and with time you've probably developed a much more keen sense of taste when it comes to nic, vg and pg without all the other jive in the mix

I just looked at onestop and it seems a bit pricey though. I'll try it eventually!

 

[VapoVamp]

I concur Cy......mine too.....Right On & Far out with the TH! Some of us(HARD-CORE ex-analog smokers)Love...Luvvv the power of the TH. Anything to keep me vaping Cut your nic a little...add a few drops of VG & yes, lose the h20. See you in the Vapehaze

Not sure what you're experiencing, but all the above is great advice, give it a whirl

When I started DIYing I noticed a harshness that I actually enjoy, and would have to call it better TH

I have a theory that some of my vendor juices actually have less nic then they claim to have, and my own mixes are just what they claim to be (I hope ?)

No real evidence for this except 1) greater TH on my own batches 2) more buzz

 

[kardus]

In cases of harshness it could be maladjustment or even PG sensitivity. High concentrations of VG cut with small amouts of DI water beat any of those 'perfect' PG:VG ratios, IMO. But, probably not the most accurate feel in simulating what heavy smokers prefer.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

I go 75% VG with 36 nic and the TH rocks my world

Flavoring also makes a huge difference. FA perique black packs a wicked throat hit IMO

Used to smoke pipes and camels unfiltered...

 

[MSLS]

are flavors apprentice flavorings free from food coloring?