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Doverkin

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Please be advised that I have written this for someone else before so some of the addressed detail here may be specific. But you can still make use of the information here. As I said on the message Im willing to hand you more specific information by email if you wish.

I am willing to talk further with you in private emails but to keep it short you want the best you can expect 200-400 full suited; expensive yet lifetime equipments and average 1-2 USD/day. As for nicotine I thought just like you at first, that nicotine controls the hits. The fact is true but not entirely. To start you will want to be aware 60mg nicotine concentrate will kill adults of any size and 30mg is the absolute max intake. Now down to hits, let's just pretend you choose and own a quality kit. Most come with some device that directly/indirectly restricts air flow(known as the choke control). Thus given you the smooth draws or stronger hits *almost. Note I said *(almost) going for profection here you want VV (variable voltage/wattage depending on device design). Im not electrician but basically you should understand voltage must be meet with equal if not greater amount of resistance measured number of Ohms. This is where atomizer or cartomizer (the center tube device that hold your liquid connect directly to your battery/device). If you so choose you can buy them disposables in which you can purchase in tank mode (continuous fills) or drop mode (fill as you go) either way watch for Ohm. The higher the Ohm rating the higher you voltage/wattage you can set. High voltage/wattage means more smoke and so concludes the full hit factor. There is more atomizer/cartomizer options, models of vaping machine I highly recommended, e juice, health factors, and more. I just don't have time to enlist all but as a heavy smoker myself Im willing to help a fellow vaper without holding back information I know. I even have old products that did not work out good enough for my standard but may be okay to starters. Im willing to share detail in private email.
Thanks and I hope this will help you out a bit.
Happy vaping:)
 
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sailorman

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Did you write that with one of those automatic programs that strings words together to make it look like something, but when your read it, it makes no sense at all? Automatic BS generator, I think they call them.

Like this:
...you want the best you can expect 200-400 full suited; expensive yet lifetime equipments and average 1-2 USD/day
What? Even a liberal translation of that is wrong. Are you trying to sell some overpriced stuff here?

Or this, which is categorically incorrect;
..To start you will want to be aware 60mg nicotine concentrate will kill adults of any size and 30mg is the absolute max intake
How much 60mg nicotine concentrate? I work with 100mg nicotine all the time and I'm still here. A lot of people vape 36mg every day.

Or this:
...Im not electrician but basically you should understand voltage must be meet with equal if not greater amount of resistance measured number of Ohms...
Everything after the part that says "I'm not an electrician" is wrong. Well, not really wrong, it just makes no sense.

And this:
.. High voltage/wattage means more smoke and so concludes the full hit factor...
Again, what does this mean? If you use too high a voltage, your battery will vent and smoke?

If it makes more sense in the original language, I apologize. Perhaps you should have someone help with the translation. Google translator can do that sometimes.

Nevertheless, if someone wants to learn ACCURATE information, there are plenty of people and written resources to help them here, without resorting to PMs or private consultations with someone who has a dubious grasp of the facts, or a language barrier, or both. And no one will try to sell them something either.
 

sailorman

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Perhaps I was a bit harsh. I'm sure you intend to help, but there is a better way of going about it. If you want to help new vapers, I suggest you do what we all have done. Start by helping people who ask specific questions. Try to provide accurate information to them and pay attention to what it is they really need to know. Do not try to only answer them in private communications. Don't push products they don't need or can't afford. Let other people see what you write and admit if you were wrong about something. This helps you learn as well as helping others learn. Establish a reputation of credibility and honesty.

Then, you will start to build a good reputation as someone people can trust as a source of help and information. People will seek out your advice without the need to solicit them. Soon, you will have many people asking you privately, as well as publicly, for your help, advice and recommendations. It's a slow way to extend help, but it works better that way. Take it one step at a time.

P.S. Paragraphs are your friend.
 
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yiddleboge6

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Please be advised that I have written this for someone else before so some of the addressed detail here may be specific. But you can still make use of the information here. As I said on the message Im willing to hand you more specific information by email if you wish.

I am willing to talk further with you in private emails but to keep it short you want the best you can expect 200-400 full suited; expensive yet lifetime equipments and average 1-2 USD/day. As for nicotine I thought just like you at first, that nicotine controls the hits. The fact is true but not entirely. To start you will want to be aware 60mg nicotine concentrate will kill adults of any size and 30mg is the absolute max intake. Now down to hits, let's just pretend you choose and own a quality kit. Most come with some device that directly/indirectly restricts air flow(known as the choke control). Thus given you the smooth draws or stronger hits *almost. Note I said *(almost) going for profection here you want VV (variable voltage/wattage depending on device design). Im not electrician but basically you should understand voltage must be meet with equal if not greater amount of resistance measured number of Ohms. This is where atomizer or cartomizer (the center tube device that hold your liquid connect directly to your battery/device). If you so choose you can buy them disposables in which you can purchase in tank mode (continuous fills) or drop mode (fill as you go) either way watch for Ohm. The higher the Ohm rating the higher you voltage/wattage you can set. High voltage/wattage means more smoke and so concludes the full hit factor. There is more atomizer/cartomizer options, models of vaping machine I highly recommended, e juice, health factors, and more. I just don't have time to enlist all but as a heavy smoker myself Im willing to help a fellow vaper without holding back information I know. I even have old products that did not work out good enough for my standard but may be okay to starters. Im willing to share detail in private email.
Thanks and I hope this will help you out a bit.
Happy vaping:)

What on earth is this all about? And whom are you addressing? PMs? Why? :confused:
 

Doverkin

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sailorman thanks for the picture and topic specific advice I should do that. Given the my late hours all Im gonna say is. I do mean to help out and Im not your enemy nor do I intend to sell. I thought it is rather obvious since you did not see a link to my site nor do I have one. I would request that people do not throw the random rage as sailorman did for his first reply. This is not to say I dont welcome concerns and specific detail requests. I take constructive critics and I would thank you. Considering this situation over, being not only one person to say my message is confusing I would say it's certainly not just some biased misjudgments of a few.

I can provide detailed and sources to the confused message body and concerns. For instance if's it's price consider provari 160 cheapest unit cost and extras including end caps, battery etc; roughly 200 and change depending what you buy. If you buy your rebuildable attomizer like iAtty2, and make your own liquid with all wanted flavoring, PG, VG. Do the math approx under 300. Does this make more visual sense now as I said 200-400 since again Im not selling/setting you up for anything, nor am I suggesting any specific budget push over ones affordable limit.

The nicotine issue are real from medical suggestion not by me but by medical professionals and experts. I can find where is the original source I picked up from upon readers request. Recap: I said 60mg will kill and I add or make any sized adults really sick. I meant every world I said including the essential word concentrate. That is the difference. I also used 100mg concentration then dilute it with all the ingredients (PG,VG, Flavoring). Choose your liking but for me that's 11%.

I could list all I said down to the very last details of your choice of MLA/APA format or would informal presentation will be more than sufficient enough. Please do not give me credit or name me title. Im a vaper and I intend to share what I learned mostly though my own research and use that's all. Many of which did come from ECF, some through sales and others google. I hope this cleared up some mind boggle for you. Lastly, Im sorry I am not an expert to the art of English but Im more than happy to clarify any misunderstanding and/or confusion up for you.
 
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