Genesis that doesn't leak?

[morebaconplease]

I'm looking for my first genesis style atty. What is really important to me is that it doesn't leak in my pocket, and is not huge (because it will be in my pocket.).

So any good advice? Models?

Perseus *looks* awesome and smaller than most, but I've found very little commentary on it. FT Perseus clone

 

[jamiller619]

Is there a reason you need a Genesis style atomizer? I think if you really want one you'll be forced to use it around your house, because I haven't found one that didn't leak. It's simply a flaw in the Genny design that causes them all to leak.

 

[morebaconplease]

Mostly I just want to be able to rebuild it, and get the amount of vape you do with custom coils, low-ish ohms, etc, And have that on the go...

If there is another style atomizer with a tank where you can rock your own build, and its more mobile, then I am all ears...(or eyes I suppose)

 

[imsoenthused]

Kayfun style is what you want, a genesis that didn't leak also wouldn't wick. It's an open reservoir with no vacuum by design. That said I carried a genesis around with me everywhere for years, and as long as I kept to reasonably upright, ie no pockets wide enough it could lay horizontally in them, I had very few incidents.

 

[HauntedMyst]

All gennies leak. In vaping years, it's an old design. There are much better mods out there that don't leak. As enthused said, the Kayfun but there is also the Taifun, both GS and GT and neither leak and all of them taste better than a genesis style device.

 

[morebaconplease]

Ok, so I was actually lumping both x-fun's into the gennies group. But now that I look closer at the design, I see it's very diff...

So, vacuum system? I.e. when you puff, it pulls a little more juice up those "paths" and wicks? But when idle there isn't any open path for the juice to flow? Am I close?


Edit: spent the last few minutes looking at the funs. They don't seem the same at all. Kayfun and Russian have the "paths" that would seem to let juice through if there is suction applied, but Taifun looks like its just a hole in the middle under your coil. Wouldn't the Taifun leak like a sieve if it happened to go horizontal?

 

[imsoenthused]

Na, Taifun doesn't leak, that bottom hole is for air. Liquid comes in the sides, two holes that the wick either lays against or pokes through. When I say kayfun, I meant any of them: Kayfun, Russian, Taifun, Orchid, Erlkonigen, AGA-T5, AGA-T7, Fogger, etc. I'm sure I have probably forgotten one of the many options. They're all based on the original Kayfun.

 

[tayone415]

All genies are known to leak, the only way it won't leak is if you keep them straight up.

 

[Dana A]

I use the AGA T2s and hate the leaking as well. I can say though that they dont leak very bad unless they are just laying on their side for awhile. I use mine on a Provari with 18650 extension cap. I always throw it in my purse in the cell phone pocket. It usually ends up tipping over quite a ways and I have yet to have any leaks that are more then a few drops and that has to be with a full tank. The drops that have leaked always stay inside the cap. It really isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I would so be using the kayfun if I didn't LOVE SS mesh wicks so much.

 

[imsoenthused]

I use the AGA T2s and hate the leaking as well. I can say though that they dont leak very bad unless they are just laying on their side for awhile. I use mine on a Provari with 18650 extension cap. I always throw it in my purse in the cell phone pocket. It usually ends up tipping over quite a ways and I have yet to have any leaks that are more then a few drops and that has to be with a full tank. The drops that have leaked always stay inside the cap. It really isn't as bad as I thought it would be. I would so be using the kayfun if I didn't LOVE SS mesh wicks so much.

Taifun is a Kayfun style that will work with SS wicks. Just an FYI. It was designed to support them.

 

[Despraci]

Genesis atomizer work by leaking, hence why you tip them to wet the very top of the wick. The other options out there for none leak tanks, not going to say better because it can really be opinions and what a user likes that makes something better. Personally I like Kayfuns, but my friends Gennies work pretty darn good.

 

[Fizzpop]

All Genesis tanks leak, but they also provide a damn fine vape.

 

[Emmanuel G.]

I got a russian 91% (basically a kayfun lite), a taifun GT and a simple Genny

Gennys leak, we got that down
russian 91% has a great vape, no leak, but has a 2 parts positive pin that can cause shorts and require to be emptied if you want to change the coil or the wick. it also has a very specific look and require additional $ if you want it to look somewhat different.
taifun GT, to me, has a better vape, no leaks if wicked right, but more importantly, no risks of shorts and can be rewicked or even recoiled without emptying the tank. its big con is that it's a 23mm atty so it won't look flush on many mechs, but on those where it does, it looks great.

 

[morebaconplease]

Sounds like I need to go for a Kayfun style in order to get the least leakage. Now to narrow it down to one of the multitude of those

Beautiful, thanks everyone! I'm on my way...

 

[morebaconplease]

Total bummer they make the Tai GT in 23mm! I'd go for it right now if it would fit my mod flush, and i'm NOT buying a new mod for a specific atomizer. Oh well...

 

[morebaconplease]

Fogger...that's a Taifun knock-off, yes? Like the Russian is to the Kayfun...

Its 22mm

 

[WattWick]

... one of those times being on Tapatalk really sucks. So much to type...

Gennies are not designed to leak. Nor is that how they work - by leaking liquids to the coil. Trick is to narrow down the tanks air intake/pressure relief to the point where air gets in but liquids don't get out. Wick needs to be snug in the wick hole to prevent liquids running up its sides.

It's a fine line between not leaking and still wicking. But it only takes a little experimentation. I use nozzles from e-liquid bottles as plugs. That's how easy it can be to leak-proof a gennie.

That being said... The learning curve can be steeper than Kayfuns.

(I'm strictly talking about mesh and/or wire rope wicks. No idea how to leak proof a cotton auto-dripper setup)