Welcome to ECF, redkhoas.
I'm sure some others will pop in that use this kind of ratio and will have some specific suggestions.
I'm sure some others will pop in that use this kind of ratio and will have some specific suggestions.
No such thing as a totally PG free flavor because most flavorings have a PG base. You can do really low PG though. You can buy them of DIY, which is vastly cheaper or better tasting depending on which you prefer. Myself I maximize cheap. I estimate my vaping cots to be about $20/month which is a bunch less than premix and hundreds less than smoking. VG is cheap. You can get it by the gallon. A gallon lasts me about 6 months or so. VG and PG are used because of their low boiling point, low cost, and long shelf life. There are all sorts of things that can work though. Alcohol has been used. It vapes a bit hot, gets you drunk very briefly (if you use enough) and produces no clouds, which is occasionally useful. Water vapes even hotter (too hot for me) and produces almost no visible vapor. PeG is more expensive and harder to find than PG, but some people that develop PG sensitivities can use it. Still cheap compared to premix. There are a bunch of things that can be used. Basically you want GRAS (generally regarded as safe) and low boiling point (lower than water) VG is what makes the clouds. It’s actually used in fog machines. A fog machine is basically a gigantic ecig.
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Not 100% on what you meant by that, but if you want better flavor over juice cost you’ll want a food scale that does grams and can zero. (>$20 on Amazon) It’s more accurate to go by weight than volume. There are people that specialize in DIY flavor mixing. I’m more of a single-flavoring-and-eyeball-it type of mixer. Really good consistent taste means really accurate measurement. Not my area. There are folks here whose area it is though. In the complexity scale it’s about like cooking dinner iirc.
When I vaped years ago I was buying 100% vg e juices from companies ecblends.com used to have a vg line. Another company called kindjuice.com has 100% vg e juice. I been reading and researching through my findings on this forum and reddit people were and are making there own pg free e juice recipes and they were buying nature flavors (NF), real flavors (RF) and another one with that I don't remember the name right now but it uses the letters (MF). The real flavors company has a extract line that is alcohol based and vg based, I have read numerous reviews of the companies products. It's just been difficult to find somewhere to order from.
Google is your friend in this case. For more accurate googles search “Google fu” which lists all the various not well documented additions. My move would be go first to the manufacturer then work you way down.
I did indeed had to bring out the Google fu skills. But I kinda got all the info that the search results can give me, the knowledge I require is with the people. j.k. I kinda figured I could join the community and link up with some other PG sensitive vapers/DIYers. So I know which brands to buy just don't know where to get them from all the information is years old, but I do still have the pre made juice options available online like kindjuice, velvetcloud but who wants to spend like 30-50 bucks on a 30ml or two . I mean I will and have but I rather do that in emergency situations.
Makes sense. I would look at crunchy stuff first. Some company that does food flavorings for people afraid of PG because “propylene glycol” sounds too processed and sciencey. Maybe Germany. Theres been a holistic thing there since the 1930’s. Inwara is I think Polish, but they might have some too.
Flavor jungle is a place that has a lot of stuff. When I started DIY I bought a lot of stuff I never wound up using. Rubber gloves, disposable pipettes, etc.. I do more animal type mixing though. I’d avoid the DIY kits. There will be a few things in there you wind up needing, but I’d buy stuff on an as needed basis.
Most of the Curieux brand of vapetime UK are 100% PG free, they use 60% Vegetable Glycerine and 40% Vegetol only. No PG. Awesome flavours too, not the norm. For bulkier amounts there is also diy available with the same base. Hope this helps.
I didn’t know what vegetal was so I googled it. Seems to be a good word to use. Got a bunch of pg free flavoring stuff. Mostly in French. I still don’t know what vegetal is. I don’t speak French and wasn’t curious enough to dig up translation software.
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