GGTS PENELOPE TRIPLE COIL @ .9ohms- 1.0 OHMS

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R53_Dave

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Hey Bish, How many watts is running through that setup? I'm guessing at least 15, if not more. Be careful buddy!! The ProVari won't fire that because it's getting to an unsafe level and could lead to battery failure...or worse!!! AKA KABOOM! I'd hate to see that happy face of yours on a dentist office "Before and after" poster!

I'm worried someone else will try this and hurt themselves. You're getting dangerously close to the limits here. Danger and vaping isn't a combo any of us are trying to pair up on ECF. It's playing into the hands of those that would ban what we do! Please do the math/science on your ideas before giving it to the world. You're a good guy. I know you would be very upset if someone got hurt trying to copy what you did on your videos.

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(aside)music...... needs to change bud :p **edit** well the intro few songs...

Anyways, just another :2cents: I dont like add vasoline to any of my GG stuff, not saying it will, BUT IF it heats up, it creats a soapy taste and is unhealthy.

Ive never had the need to use any nor would I....
 
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Iimeo adds vasoline to it prolongs o rings. A real man isnt ashame to say he uses vasaline

don't worry I'll toughen you up with some stiff ones @ vaporcon

As for the music EH EH no way man i cant vape with out music. I need to be true in the way I vape I cant really enjoy vaping without listening to Siruis Radio. I usually like Howard stern.

I be happy to switch channels for my next video. Make a suggestion down from Sirius Satellite radio stations.

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provari doesnt fire because he has limits to its electronic part and not because its unsafe to vape at 15 watts R53. AW batteries can handle much more current that 3 ampere that provari allows:)

I use vaseline for my o-rings. My mother and many other people in the past put vaseline to their nose when they were sick, so I find it safe. I never made a research about this but its not dangerous to my opinion. If someone has a different opinion he can show me a link about this issue, so next time I will not suggest vaseline again. Maybe food grade silicon is an alternative for this issue or maybe food oil is good too.
 

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provari doesnt fire because he has limits to its electronic part and not because its unsafe to vape at 15 watts R53. AW batteries can handle much more current that 3 ampere that provari allows:)

I use vaseline for my o-rings. My mother and many other people in the past put vaseline to their nose when they were sick, so I find it safe. I never made a research about this but its not dangerous to my opinion. If someone has a different opinion he can show me a link about this issue, so next time I will not suggest vaseline again. Maybe food grade silicon is an alternative for this issue or maybe food oil is good too.


lets have a shot of Ouzo OPA!!!!!
 

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I dont put vaseline on threads but yes on the orings :) but only because i know im not going to be cleaning mods often and it can build dust in the threads.

1ohm or a little lower is very nice, i vape around 1.2-1.3ohmon my genesis attys; waiting for my 27gauge wire to arrive to make a proper lr coil on my ody and penelope :p right now i can do it but with 2wicks can only get like 3 wraps.
 

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provari doesnt fire because he has limits to its electronic part and not because its unsafe to vape at 15 watts R53. AW batteries can handle much more current that 3 ampere that provari allows:)

Imeo,

The problem is not with AW IMR at all. The problem is people use cheap batteries like:
Tenergy Li-Ion 18500 Cylindrical 3.7V 1400mAh Rechargeable Battery 1C

That one can only do 1.4 amps continuos discharge rate. All of the cheap amazon batteries that a lot of people use are the problem. There are a lot and I mean a lot of these kinds of batteries...Ultralast, Tenergy, Surefire and the list goes on. So many 3.7V 18500 and 18650 battery that can only do 1C-2C max discharge and won't have the amps to fire this stuff safely.

We as e-cig users should be know what we're using...but sadly, some people just use whatever is cheapest. I don't get it personally, if you spend 200 dollars on a PV why buy a 3 dollar unknown battery with a 4 dollar charger.
 

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Imeo,

The problem is not with AW IMR at all. The problem is people use cheap batteries like:
Tenergy Li-Ion 18500 Cylindrical 3.7V 1400mAh Rechargeable Battery 1C

That one can only do 1.4 amps continuos discharge rate. All of the cheap amazon batteries that a lot of people use are the problem. There are a lot and I mean a lot of these kinds of batteries...Ultralast, Tenergy, Surefire and the list goes on. So many 3.7V 18500 and 18650 battery that can only do 1C-2C max discharge and won't have the amps to fire this stuff safely.

We as e-cig users should be know what we're using...but sadly, some people just use whatever is cheapest. I don't get it personally, if you spend 200 dollars on a PV why buy a 3 dollar unknown battery with a 4 dollar charger.

I'll be sure on next video to clear that up. Imeo is right though I showed 18650 high end bats. no frills no imitations. To do the things I do you goto to be safe and rely on good products. thats the point of my videos.
 

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I agree with you Bishop but if you think there is no risk that someone will try it with whatever battery because they don't know the difference...well you know someone might.

Most people don't know enough about batteries, discharge rates, amps, volts, watts etc. They simply don't know at all. They figure every battery is as good as the next since it's an 18500 and has the same maH but costs 3 times less. It's not just with e-cig stuff, same stuff happens in the R/C world. People use the cheapest stuff they can find on their expensive helicopters and bad things happen. The difference is you don't put a RC helicopter up to your face 200 times a day.

You can see this by the questions people ask every day on the forums. I'm not talking about new members either, I'm talking about people that have been around a long time and use high end devices.

I'm not telling you what to do but it's not a bad idea to warn people that the things you are doing require high amp draws(5 amps) and to only use high discharge batteries. A lot of batteries can't handle 5 amp continuous discharge. If you need to know how to do all the calculations I can show you.
 

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I was using a similar setup as Bishop (.9 ohm @ 6.0v) but got a bit uneasy when I began to get what I call little mini explosions that would blow a puff of air back into my mouth. So I quit stacking the 3.0v batteries and went back to a single 3.7v 18650. Safer I guess but not near as good of a vape. Then Torqueguy posted about 3.5 ohm @ 7.4v and I tried that and liked it much better than the single 3.7v 18650. Actually I'd about as soon vape an Ego or Riva if limited to the single 18650. Since then I've been wanting to learn a bit more about battery safety. I prefer high voltage but on the other hand didn't give up analogs just to have my PV blow up in my mouth either. EZ, when I posted about this on the GG forum you responded stating there was much information available about battery safety http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog_post.php?do=newblog&p=6961559 and you weren't going to repeat it. Your post wasn't very helpful and I wondered what was your motive for posting at all if you weren't gonna post anything helpful. Anyhow I couldn't find the info EZ was referring to and would be delighted to see some posts from knowledgeable folks about what is and isn't safe. Thanks!!!
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I also use Tenergy batteries cause they are sold by COV, the same folks I bought my GGTS and Ody's from. I just kinda figured COV wouldn't sell them if they weren't safe.
Imeo,

The problem is not with AW IMR at all. The problem is people use cheap batteries like:
Tenergy Li-Ion 18500 Cylindrical 3.7V 1400mAh Rechargeable Battery 1C

That one can only do 1.4 amps continuos discharge rate. All of the cheap amazon batteries that a lot of people use are the problem. There are a lot and I mean a lot of these kinds of batteries...Ultralast, Tenergy, Surefire and the list goes on. So many 3.7V 18500 and 18650 battery that can only do 1C-2C max discharge and won't have the amps to fire this stuff safely.

We as e-cig users should be know what we're using...but sadly, some people just use whatever is cheapest. I don't get it personally, if you spend 200 dollars on a PV why buy a 3 dollar unknown battery with a 4 dollar charger.
 
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Smitty, I don't know which Tenergy CoV sells. They might have a higher discharge rate.

I'm talking about the Tenergy cells people buy from Amazon etc, not CoV. The cell I posted was a 1C rate discharge cell from Amazon that people are using. It's specifically a 18500 cell made at 1C. Tenergy sells a lot of different models.

As far as my post not being helpful..I'm not sure what to say. Sometimes I feel like I'm re-typing stuff that's all over this forum. Battery safety is one of the more popular topics.

I just googled "battery safety sticky e-cig forum" and looked at the #1 search result which after 2 clicks leads me to the battery information point I referenced in my post. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-apvs.html
 

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My apologies EZ, prolly should have used less harsh words. One of my many character defects. Know I need to do the research myself but don't have much electrical knowledge and sometimes I get lost in some of the technical jargon the engineers use. Most of your posts are very helpful. The Tenergy's I got from COV are RCR123A 3.2v. So far I've not had any problems with them other than the small mini explosions I spoke of when stacking 2 of them with a .9 Ohm dual coil in drip mode Ody. Don't know if the batteries caused it or the very low resistance but it got my attention enough that I stopped using that setup. It was sweet though, just didn't wanna make the news as another idiot who just blew his fool head off with one of them electronic cigarettes lol.
Smitty, I don't know which Tenergy CoV sells. They might have a higher discharge rate.

I'm talking about the Tenergy cells people buy from Amazon etc, not CoV. The cell I posted was a 1C rate discharge cell from Amazon that people are using. It's specifically a 18500 cell made at 1C. Tenergy sells a lot of different models.

As far as my post not being helpful..I'm not sure what to say. Sometimes I feel like I'm re-typing stuff that's all over this forum. Battery safety is one of the more popular topics.

I just googled "battery safety sticky e-cig forum" and looked at the #1 search result which after 2 clicks leads me to the battery information point I referenced in my post. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-apvs.html
 
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