Glassmanoak’s The Vape Tree Contest #3 and Chat Thread

[jpf880]

I've heard good things about The Russian, but at $90+ it's still a little pricey for me.

 

[Schnarph]

Depending on what I can sell in the classies, I might just get one of those Russian/Chinese things. The Magoo also looks interesting, and I definitely prefer the name. There's a copper (gold?) version that I can't find yet, it would look perfect on one of my copper mods.

 

[jj2]

Another one that was shaped by man.

 

[glassmanoak]

I've heard good things about The Russian, but at $90+ it's still a little pricey for me.

I thought that I saw it in one of "those" email alerts. I did, but it was $115!! GULP!!

 

[Susan W.]

Halp, I need some The vape Tree juice.....

It's so hot tonight, just trying to stay hydrated....

 

[RPadTV]

I've heard good things about The Russian, but at $90+ it's still a little pricey for me.

Yeah, it's not cheap, but it's still around half the price of the Kayfun 3.1 that it's based on. Group buy prices have been $75-80 depending on the runner.

Depending on what I can sell in the classies, I might just get one of those Russian/Chinese things. The Magoo also looks interesting, and I definitely prefer the name. There's a copper (gold?) version that I can't find yet, it would look perfect on one of my copper mods.

The Magoo looks cool, but I don't like working with those ceramic cups. Bottom-coil atomizers like the Kayfun, Russian, and Spheroid let you position the coil for versatility. It's crazy how much difference 1mm of positioning can make. It's nice having the versatility for more flavor or throat hit from a particular juice.

 

[jj2]

A ballerina tree.

 

[Schnarph]

Yeah, it's not cheap, but it's still around half the price of the Kayfun 3.1 that it's based on. Group buy prices have been $75-80 depending on the runner.



The Magoo looks cool, but I don't like working with those ceramic cups. Bottom-coil atomizers like the Kayfun, Russian, and Spheroid let you position the coil for versatility. It's crazy how much difference 1mm of positioning can make. It's nice having the versatility for more flavor or throat hit from a particular juice.

How can you do a group buy from a company with MAP? I thought Kebo was like Innokin and Joyetech, demanding a set price for their products to be sold. The lowest I've seen was $92 something, the same price from multiple places. The tank section isn't glass either, but it does come with a SS section. It's not a deal breaker compared to the price, but they could have made more improvements while cloning.

Speaking of ceramic cups, the Diver is giving me a rough time. Consistency is just not there. Todd (reviewer) seems to be loving it. I got a Killer clone yesterday and while it uses a nearly identical cup it would not even assemble. Things like this drove me to buy 40 Boge cartos this weekend, otherwise my cartotanks will get left in a drawer. I like consistency.

 

[mogium]

Congrats zapped . 3rd time s a charm

 

[jj2]

Wanna dance?

 

[jpf880]

Good Morningnite Tree People!

 

[jj2]

Bad hair day?

 

[RPadTV]

How can you do a group buy from a company with MAP? I thought Kebo was like Innokin and Joyetech, demanding a set price for their products to be sold. The lowest I've seen was $92 something, the same price from multiple places. The tank section isn't glass either, but it does come with a SS section. It's not a deal breaker compared to the price, but they could have made more improvements while cloning.

There are several Group Buys I've seen, but Kebo appears to be cutting down. A few places like Bucky's Bargain Vaping and Congrevape are doing them; Kebo has no problem there since those are stores and the group buy can be masked as a "pre-order."

Yes, the middle section is polycarbonate and there's a steal one as well. Glass isn't possible because you can't thread it. I like that it has two so that you can change depending on the type of juice you're vaping or if you just want to change up the look.

Speaking of ceramic cups, the Diver is giving me a rough time. Consistency is just not there. Todd (reviewer) seems to be loving it. I got a Killer clone yesterday and while it uses a nearly identical cup it would not even assemble. Things like this drove me to buy 40 Boge cartos this weekend, otherwise my cartotanks will get left in a drawer. I like consistency.

I had a harder time with the ceramic cups on the eBaron Dripper Pro than the Killer. They're still fragile and can be annoying to work with. I think it's just a matter of practice really. I'm sure you'll be able to consistently rebuild it with great results in short order.

 

[jj2]

Just pretty awesome.

 

[Schnarph]

There are several Group Buys I've seen, but Kebo appears to be cutting down. A few places like Bucky's Bargain Vaping and Congrevape are doing them; Kebo has no problem there since those are stores and the group buy can be masked as a "pre-order."

Yes, the middle section is polycarbonate and there's a steal one as well. Glass isn't possible because you can't thread it. I like that it has two so that you can change depending on the type of juice you're vaping or if you just want to change up the look.



I had a harder time with the ceramic cups on the eBaron Dripper Pro than the Killer. They're still fragile and can be annoying to work with. I think it's just a matter of practice really. I'm sure you'll be able to consistently rebuild it with great results in short order.

The downside of clones is the lack of innovation. Adjustable flow additions are nice but using glass or avoiding polycarbonate completely would have been really cool. Maybe next time?

The Diver rebuild is not a problem, I've made plenty. 2mm doubled over like the stock set, Ekowool, with round or even ribbon Kanthal. Ready wires are nice, I like those but I can make my own. It's the wicking. I'm having the same problems a PBusardo. It's great and then it floods, or worse. When it works right it's better than a carto but it doesn't last. Having to empty a tank to make adjustments every time makes it a serious PIA. High VG or 100% VG is the worst. The forum threads on this have gone dead silent lately.

I'm not giving up yet, but cartotanks still remain the most reliable and safe way to vape on the go for me. YMMV

 

[RPadTV]

The downside of clones is the lack of innovation. Adjustable flow additions are nice but using glass or avoiding polycarbonate completely would have been really cool. Maybe next time?

I don't see how glass can be used in this particular design. The connections have to be tight to maintain the air pressure, hence the threaded parts. Switching to a system where a glass tube with O-rings would be pushed into the rest of the tubes would lead to too many user errors.

 

[SmilingSlasher]

Congrats Zapped

 

[jj2]

And an oh my

 

[Schnarph]

I don't see how glass can be used in this particular design. The connections have to be tight to maintain the air pressure, hence the threaded parts. Switching to a system where a glass tube with O-rings would be pushed into the rest of the tubes would lead to too many user errors.

True, but it only takes a small amount of metal to hold a glass tube. The frame holding the glass could be threaded the same as the polycarbonate. A bargain priced tank might be polycarbonate, but plastic known to fail shouldn't have anything to do with high dollar items. It's usually considered disposable. I don't think the e-liquid is to blame, it's the materials used to hold it. JMO.

 

[RPadTV]

True, but it only takes a small amount of metal to hold a glass tube. The frame holding the glass could be threaded the same as the polycarbonate. A bargain priced tank might be polycarbonate, but plastic known to fail shouldn't have anything to do with high dollar items. It's usually considered disposable. I don't think the e-liquid is to blame, it's the materials used to hold it. JMO.

Are there any atomizers that use glass tubes with metal ends? I don't know of any. Wouldn't the metal and glass be attached by glue? That seems as likely to fail as a threaded polycarbonate tube. Besides, a stainless steel center tube is included with both the Kayfun 3.1 and The Russian. If reliability is a concern then users can stick to that. The polycarbonate center tube is just more convenient for more vapers.