Good letter to Obama

[TropicalBob]

Yes, it PR, but well-done PR that spells out our arguments to keep e-cigs legal while studies are done.


OfficialWire: Obama: Please Save The Electronic Cigarette

 

[wv2win]

I agree Bob. I have already modified it and used it.

 

[mmmvaping]

That is a well informative letter. I hope President Obama reads it. All I have to say is well done and I hope for the best.

 

[midian]

Wow, what a great message! The only problem? This message is coming from an ecig distributor. Don’t assume my post is to naysay the message to our president; rather my post is to be the ‘Voice of Reality’, “Please don’t ban something that I sell…” I hope I’m not being too harsh, but it’s the reality of the letter.

Had the letter been composed and presented as a conglomeration from the medical & scientific community (namely the individuals listed in the letter), then the letter would’ve had more of an impact.

In the end, I do hope that this letter will inspire others in the medial & scientific community to support electronic cigarettes. I guess my stance is that I don’t want electronic cigarette distributors & manufacturers to be looked upon as stooping to the same level of the big tobacco lobbyists. On the other hand, I can also relate to using the same form of communications to try and spread the word about electronic cigarettes.

 

[James]

Hi Midian

I wrote the Obama letter and noticed your comment:

This message is coming from an ecig distributor. Don’t assume my post is to naysay the message to our president; rather my post is to be the ‘Voice of Reality’, “Please don’t ban something that I sell…” I hope I’m not being too harsh, but it’s the reality of the letter.

I'd just like to point out that we are a UK distributor, and we would be unaffected by a US ban. We also have interviewed many scientists and researchers (who do not have a commercial interest in the electronic cigarette), and these interviews have lead to our strong belief that the electronic cigarette is a viable alternative to cigarettes.

 

[Cloud9Smoking.com]

I'd just like to point out that we are a UK distributor, and we would be unaffected by a US ban.

Good point James. And thank you for your very well written letter.

 

[Brooks]

I'd just like to point out that we are a UK distributor, and we would be unaffected by a US ban. We also have interviewed many scientists and researchers (who do not have a commercial interest in the electronic cigarette), and these interviews have lead to our strong belief that the electronic cigarette is a viable alternative to cigarettes.

Your letter is very good and Midian was simply pointing out that, just as Porsche will would commend German engineering, of course a distributor of e-cigs will be an advocate of his product.
In truth, those in the UK could very well be affected by a U.S. ban. Once that happened, your government may fear that they will appear irresponsible by not following suit.
The bottom line being that the FDA probably doesn't want a study because it would most likely prove the e-cig to be very safe. That would get in the way of their love affair with the pharmaceutical companies that produce things like Chantix (The drug for people who would kill to quit smoking!) and the patch... which is better at producing bizarre lucid dreams than non-smokers. (Although, the dreams were pretty cool!)

 

[CasperGhostboy]

Your letter is very good and Midian was simply pointing out that, just as Porsche will would commend German engineering, of course a distributor of e-cigs will be an advocate of his product.
In truth, those in the UK could very well be affected by a U.S. ban. Once that happened, your government may fear that they will appear irresponsible by not following suit.
The bottom line being that the FDA probably doesn't want a study because it would most likely prove the e-cig to be very safe. That would get in the way of their love affair with the pharmaceutical companies that produce things like Chantix (The drug for people who would kill to quit smoking!) and the patch... which is better at producing bizarre lucid dreams than non-smokers. (Although, the dreams were pretty cool!)

About the UK being affected by a US e-cig ban would probably, yes, have the "domino effect" across the pond if they were banned here. It is because the US and UK are that tightly together. If it happens in one place, it sure will happen in another.

Yeah, I know the whole story about PM, the FDA and such being "bed buddies" (to say it politely) on the banning of e-cigs is because it's money, money, and more money. They want their fair share and since I'm basically brand new to e-cigs, I would be *devastated* if there's a ban in effect. But when there's a will, there's always a way. Someone's gonna find a way for us vapers to get our fix in the US (and maybe the UK) until someone reverses the decision...

And about the "replacements" for cigarettes you mentioned, Chantix and the patch, I remember that I tried Chantix late 2007-early 2008 and about three weeks into the therapy, I started feeling suicidal.

And the patch, I remember one night right when I started it one time, I had dreams of dating a young hot Italian woman that looked a whole lot like Giada DeLaurentiis (of Food Network fame)...

So, I don't think that there's gonna be an outright ban on e-cigs, but thanks for getting the word out there!

Cheers,
CasperGhostboy

 

[enrogae]

Very good letter. Well written and informative (to those who do not already have said information). I only hope it doesn't fall on deaf ears, if it falls at all. Thus far the only "Change" Obama has seemed interested in is a slow and steady merge to socialism, which isn't a political philosophy often interested in the wants/needs of the individual (although, it will tell you it is!). I hope he takes action on this and proves me wrong for voting against him.

Perhaps someone could recompose the exact same letter, but from U.S. Citizens/consumers and even include the petition list to not ban the e-cigs. That might have an even greater impact. Not that I don't appreciate you fellers across the pond (mind the gap!) but the previously made point about it coming from a supplier is partially valid. Regardless of you being in the UK, in America perception/preconception is everything....as much as I hate to admit it.

 

[James]

Perhaps someone could recompose the exact same letter, but from U.S. Citizens/consumers and even include the petition list to not ban the e-cigs. That might have an even greater impact. Not that I don't appreciate you fellers across the pond (mind the gap!) but the previously made point about it coming from a supplier is partially valid. Regardless of you being in the UK, in America perception/preconception is everything....as much as I hate to admit it.

I have to agree with you. Not only would this letter be better coming from a user, or even better from an academic, than it would from a supplier, it would also be better coming from an American. Still, it does at least highlight the opinion of some American researchers.

 

[Angela]

In truth, those in the UK could very well be affected by a U.S. ban. Once that happened, your government may fear that they will appear irresponsible by not following suit.

About the UK being affected by a US e-cig ban would probably, yes, have the "domino effect" across the pond if they were banned here. It is because the US and UK are that tightly together. If it happens in one place, it sure will happen in another.

I would have to disagree with this. There are plenty of things that are allowed to be sold here that are not in the USA (a friend of mine often makes comments about being able to buy things over the counter that require a prescription in the US). I am sure that there are things the other way as well (ie not allowed here that are in the US), but I don't know that for certain. So contrary to belief, our government doesn't ALWAYS blindly follow LOL

EDIT: As a PS - plenty of cereals here (including Cherios) have green banners on them stating that they are good for your heart because they contain 'whole grain' & I can assure you it hasn't caused the uproar it has with the FDA going after Cherios recently!

 

[eric]

Beautifully written.

 

[midian]

Indeed I do want as much ‘factual’ and more importantly “scientific” information to spread; however a major problem with governmental departments, is that once they figure out that the author of an informative letter is also a distributor (or has a vested interest in eCigs), they like to use that against the data as biased or slanted. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I want the letters being presented to any governmental official to be factual & scientific; however there are too many individuals (inside governmental agencies) who are going to try and use a source against itself…it’s sad but true…

Please don’t give up the fight James!!!!!

The best form of communication to the United States (regardless of the agency or governmental body) is to have this kind of letter produced and backed by scientists and major medical representatives. I know that you’ve sited many credible scientist; however if its possible, having those individuals compose the same type of letter would be to your advantage. Any representative of an electronic cigarette company will be shot down – regardless if the information provided is factual. Again, it’s sad…but true…

Finally, I know I can speak for my entire circle of friends when I say, “The invention of the eCigarette is probably one of the biggest steps forward for everyone who gets involved; regardless of whether the individual is a smoker or not. I can only hope that we’ll soon get more doctors, lawyers, and scientists to start using an eCigarette and ‘maybe’ big-business will take a back-seat and allow us to buy wherever we feel like.”

 

[enrogae]

Indeed I do want as much ‘factual’ and more importantly “scientific” information to spread; however a major problem with governmental departments, is that once they figure out that the author of an informative letter is also a distributor (or has a vested interest in eCigs), they like to use that against the data as biased or slanted. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I want the letters being presented to any governmental official to be factual & scientific; however there are too many individuals (inside governmental agencies) who are going to try and use a source against itself…it’s sad but true…

Unless the governmental agency itself is the one holding the bias -- which is true more often than not.